High blood pressure

June 21, 2006

Margie,

I'm so sorry that this has happened to you. I'm sure you've tried

fungal defense and primal defense, right? Have you tried Dr. Leu,

he has helped a few women here quite a bit.

Sis

> > > > >

> > > > > >thank you for the info again, just talked to the doc, she

was

> >no

> > > > > >help.. now I am just on the high blood pressure meds, no

> > > > > >antidepressants.. Is there a end to this nightmare? All I

am

> > > > doing

> > > > > >is chasing my tail. Why bother going to any more docs if

no

> >one

> > > > > >believes me!!! Now the husband says I have made all this

> >stuff up

> > > > > >and I was just going on the antidepressants so I could

deal

> >with

> > > > his

> > > > > >crap... How is it your spouses can believe you all. Margie

> > > > > >

> > > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@>

> > > > > >Reply-

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Subject: Re: high blood pressure

> > > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Margie,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Ask the pharmacist if the antidepressants have silicone

> >dioxide

> > > > in

> > > > > >them . . .and if so, what options you have for a

medication

> > > > without

> > > > > >it. . . Some women are hypersensitive to silicone dioxide.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Hugs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Rogene

> > > > > >

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June 23, 2006

No, I have not..Have alot of concerns taking anything that might not agree

with me. Sensitive to many meds. Thanks margie

>From: " auntsisnj " <auntsisnj@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: high blood pressure

>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:58:38 -0000

>

>Margie,

>

>I'm so sorry that this has happened to you. I'm sure you've tried

>fungal defense and primal defense, right? Have you tried Dr. Leu,

>he has helped a few women here quite a bit.

>

>Sis

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >thank you for the info again, just talked to the doc, she

>was

> > >no

> > > > > > >help.. now I am just on the high blood pressure meds, no

> > > > > > >antidepressants.. Is there a end to this nightmare? All I

>am

> > > > > doing

> > > > > > >is chasing my tail. Why bother going to any more docs if

>no

> > >one

> > > > > > >believes me!!! Now the husband says I have made all this

> > >stuff up

> > > > > > >and I was just going on the antidepressants so I could

>deal

> > >with

> > > > > his

> > > > > > >crap... How is it your spouses can believe you all. Margie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@>

> > > > > > >Reply-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Subject: Re: high blood pressure

> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Margie,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Ask the pharmacist if the antidepressants have silicone

> > >dioxide

> > > > > in

> > > > > > >them . . .and if so, what options you have for a

>medication

> > > > > without

> > > > > > >it. . . Some women are hypersensitive to silicone dioxide.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Hugs,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Rogene

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >----------

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June 24, 2006

Margie,

You should notice your sensitivites gradually decreasing as you detox . . . The trick is to find a balance with detoxing so you don't overdo it, creating a mental block against detoxing. Just start slow, keep records of what you take and how you feel. You'll soon learn how to identify a herx and know how much you can handle. You'll feel better much faster if you can reduce your toxin load.

Do be very careful about not taking meds with silicone dioxide. Your pharmacist should be able to tell you if a prescription contains it.

Hugs,

Rogene

Re: high blood pressure> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT)> > > > >

> >> > > > > > >Margie,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >Ask the pharmacist if the antidepressants have silicone> > >dioxide> > > > > in> > > > > > >them . . .and if so, what options you have for a>medication> > > > > without> > > > > > >it. . . Some women are hypersensitive to silicone dioxide.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >Hugs,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >Rogene> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >----------> > > > > > ><http://g.msn. com/8HMAENUS/ 2743??PS= 47575>Be one of the>first> > >to> > > > > try> > > > > > >Windows Live Mail> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!> > http://search. msn.click- url.com/go/ onm00200636ave/ direct/01/> >>>>>>____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger. msn.click- url.com/go/ onm00200471ave/ direct/01/

June 24, 2006

Margie - that's right, I forgot that you're the one who is just like

me - I'm sensitive to everything, too, and that's why I've taken it

really slow with the detoxing, just taking a probiotic so far. I'm

worried, though, because on my birthday a few days ago I pulled an

embedded deer tick from my leg.

Sis

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >thank you for the info again, just talked to the doc,

she

> >was

> > > >no

> > > > > > > >help.. now I am just on the high blood pressure meds,

no

> > > > > > > >antidepressants.. Is there a end to this nightmare?

All I

> >am

> > > > > > doing

> > > > > > > >is chasing my tail. Why bother going to any more docs

if

> >no

> > > >one

> > > > > > > >believes me!!! Now the husband says I have made all

this

> > > >stuff up

> > > > > > > >and I was just going on the antidepressants so I could

> >deal

> > > >with

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > >crap... How is it your spouses can believe you all.

Margie

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@>

> > > > > > > >Reply-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: high blood pressure

> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Margie,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Ask the pharmacist if the antidepressants have

silicone

> > > >dioxide

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > >them . . .and if so, what options you have for a

> >medication

> > > > > > without

> > > > > > > >it. . . Some women are hypersensitive to silicone

dioxide.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Hugs,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Rogene

> > > > > > > >

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June 26, 2006

Sis, That can be a very scary thing. My son had a tick in his back a few weeks ago, but so far he is okay. Just watch this and see if a rash develops around the bite area. Hopefully nothing further will happen, but you will have to monitor this one. Pattyauntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: Margie - that's right, I forgot that you're the one who is just like me - I'm sensitive to everything, too, and that's why I've taken it really slow with the detoxing, just taking a probiotic so

far. I'm worried, though, because on my birthday a few days ago I pulled an embedded deer tick from my leg.Sis> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >thank you for the info again, just talked to the doc, she> >was> > > >no> > > > > > > >help.. now I am just on the high blood pressure meds, no> > > > > > > >antidepressants.. Is there a end to this nightmare? All I> >am> > > > > > doing> > > > > > > >is chasing my tail. Why bother going to any more docs if> >no> > > >one> > > > > > > >believes me!!! Now the husband says I have made all this> > > >stuff up> > > > > > > >and I was just going

on the antidepressants so I could> >deal> > > >with> > > > > > his> > > > > > > >crap... How is it your spouses can believe you all. Margie> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@>> > > > > > > >Reply- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: high blood pressure> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >Margie,> > > > > > > >>

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February 21, 2007

Hi Bonnie,

Based from what I've known from credible references, monounsaturated fatty

acid-rich plant (vegetable oil) oils as olive oil, sunflower oil, canola oil

(from Genetically Modified rapeseed to eliminate the toxic erucic fatty acid or

C22:1 resulting in 61% oleic acid or C18:1) and palm oil should be good as salad

oil. But not as cooking oil (subjected to high heat), as these oils are

converted to unstable, unhealthy transfats and cancer-causing, and as such is

now being avoided for humans, globally.

Understanding, the fatty acid profile or composition of plant oils helps

decide on their proper usage or applications as food and non-food.

Hoping, Dr Bruce Fife could confirm this information.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

Hello:

In Dr. Fife's book Coconut Cures he says - Polyunsaturated cooking oils aren't

the only oils that negatively affect Blood Pressure. Monounsaturated fats such

as Canola and olive oils also raise blood pressure by increasing platelet

stickiness.

I wouldn't touch Canola Oil but I have Olive Oil every day. I tried to address

this subject a few months ago and no one seemed to want to believe that Olive

Oil had anything negative about it.

What do I use then in salads?

Bonnie

February 23, 2007

Hello:

Dr. Fife was referring to platelet stickiness and Hypertension. I was hoping

that was not quite true as Olive Oil is consumed by so many people worldwide. We

never heat Olive Oil but perhaps we shouldn't be using it at all.

Bonnie

Re: High Blood Pressure

Hi Bonnie,

Based from what I've known from credible references, monounsaturated fatty

acid-rich plant (vegetable oil) oils as olive oil, sunflower oil, canola oil

(from Genetically Modified rapeseed to eliminate the toxic erucic fatty acid or

C22:1 resulting in 61% oleic acid or C18:1) and palm oil should be good as salad

oil. But not as cooking oil (subjected to high heat), as these oils are

converted to unstable, unhealthy transfats and cancer-causing, and as such is

now being avoided for humans, globally.

Understanding, the fatty acid profile or composition of plant oils helps

decide on their proper usage or applications as food and non-food.

Hoping, Dr Bruce Fife could confirm this information.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

Hello:

In Dr. Fife's book Coconut Cures he says - Polyunsaturated cooking oils aren't

the only oils that negatively affect Blood Pressure. Monounsaturated fats such

as Canola and olive oils also raise blood pressure by increasing platelet

stickiness.

I wouldn't touch Canola Oil but I have Olive Oil every day. I tried to address

this subject a few months ago and no one seemed to want to believe that Olive

Oil had anything negative about it.

What do I use then in salads?

Bonnie

April 30, 2007

I've been using CO since January, and my blood pressure has actually

gone down a bit since then. It used to run 130-140 " ish " over

80 " ish. " Now it's running right where it should be, in the 120

something over 70 something range.

So, for me, CO is helping to keep it under control.

Cryss

>

> I am reading different advice about coconut oil and high blood

> pressure. Some say it is not advised for those with high blood

pressure

> and some say it helps high blood pressure. Does anyone have any

> information on this?

>

April 30, 2007

Thanks for the info. I want my husband to take it for high

cholestrol, but when he read the might interfere with high blood

pressure he didn't want to hear anymore.

> >

> > I am reading different advice about coconut oil and high blood

> > pressure. Some say it is not advised for those with high blood

> pressure

> > and some say it helps high blood pressure. Does anyone have any

> > information on this?

> >

>

April 30, 2007

<nanettelindahl@...> wrote:

> cholestrol, but when he read the might interfere with high blood

> pressure he didn't want to hear anymore.

Hi y'all

I've read that LACK OF WATER can also be a cause of high blood pressure.

The body goes into 'drought' and the veins shrink, less available

space for the blood equals high blood pressure.

Brought about by drinking diuretics, tea, coffee, alcohol, sugardrinks.

Drinking 2 litres of 'pure' water a day is a basis,

without the diuretics.

And of course, VCO is a wonderful food.

Smiles

Rich

May 1, 2007

>

http://www.vrp.com/art/1835.aspd

You need good salt for high blood pressure.

> I am reading different advice about coconut oil and high blood

> pressure. Some say it is not advised for those with high blood

pressure

> and some say it helps high blood pressure. Does anyone have any

> information on this?

>

May 1, 2007

The website opens but says the page cannot be found. Is there an error in the

URL?

Cheers, doug

Re: High blood pressure

>

http://www.vrp.com/art/1835.aspd

You need good salt for high blood pressure.

> I am reading different advice about coconut oil and high blood

> pressure. Some say it is not advised for those with high blood

pressure

> and some say it helps high blood pressure. Does anyone have any

> information on this?

>

May 1, 2007

> >

>

> http://www.vrp.com/art/1835.aspd

>

> You need good salt for high blood pressure.

>

> > I am reading different advice about coconut oil and high blood

> > pressure. Some say it is not advised for those with high blood

> pressure

> > and some say it helps high blood pressure. Does anyone have any

> > information on this?

> >

>

May 1, 2007

Thanks.

Cheers, Doug

Re: High blood pressure

> >

>

> http://www.vrp.com/art/1835.aspd

>

> You need good salt for high blood pressure.

>

> > I am reading different advice about coconut oil and high blood

> > pressure. Some say it is not advised for those with high blood

> pressure

> > and some say it helps high blood pressure. Does anyone have any

> > information on this?

> >

>

January 9, 2008

I don't trust anything that you need a prescript for. personally. I know cayenne

is helpful with pressure and cholesterol. as is coconut and apple cider vinegar.

i frequent www.herballegacy.com and www.earthclinic.com for different ailments.

Shalom

High blood pressure

Anyone know anything about high blood pressure meds..........like what are the

harmful affects? And how to get it down naturally? thanks

January 9, 2008

Try adding natural sea salt – as in ¼ to ½ tsp a day – it actually helps

balance out the body and stabilize blood pressure.

SeaLady

January 20, 2008

I am on 2.5 mg of methotrexate 6 pills once a week, and 2 5mg of prednisone

a week and 1 folic acid a week they help but still in a lot of pain, and face

swells bad don't go back to rhuemy dr feb 12

In a message dated 1/20/2008 12:15:52 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

mask1936@... writes:

I am new to the group, altho' I have had RA since I was a teenager.

Currently, I am on Remicade every other month. Methotrexate 15 mg once a week,

and

Prednisone stuck at 15 mg for almost 2 years.

Two problems: I had been on a much higher dose of pred, have been trying to

back down the dose now forever. 15 mg works. If I drop to 12.5 mg, then I

start getting sleepy, achy, malaise etc. I can't seem to break that barrier.

Within the last two months, I have gone from a usual pulse of 72, BP of

110/70 to pulse of 90 and a BP of 180/100. This started about the time I had

two

major work stressors and I slipped a disc in my back bad enough to lead to a

foot drop. My GP says my BP is due to pain, but even as the pain

resolves---my BP stays up.

Anyone have ANY suggestions on dropping the dose? Will my BP come on down if

I can ever drop the pred dose or is high blood pressure just another problem

from now on?

My mother had SLE and high blood pressure herself. She died of CHF at 69. My

father had his first bypass at 53 and died of CHF at 64. My brother had his

first heart attack at 39.

I am a veterinarian in a rural community w/my own practice, so I have a

relatively physical and highly demanding career. The last four years have been

extremely stressful as I divorced, remarried, moved four times, took care of my

dying mother and her estate, plus the stresses of keeping a practice going

during this. Right after my mother died, I developed an extremely odd neuro

problem---unable to keep my balance, " hitler walk " , stuttering and unable to

think straight-resolved w/i a couple of months--high dose pred and seizure

medications. But since then, never able to bring the pred back down to the 7.5

maintenance I had been on before. After 2 years, I am showing signs of it-thin

skin, weight gain(I also had a complete hysterectomy in the midst of all this

too), aging in general...

any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dr.

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January 21, 2008

For as long as you have been on pred, you need to take as long or

longer to come off it. the prednisone should go down 1 mg at a time

for probably 3-4 months before taking it down 1 mg more. That way

your body is given time to adjust properly. had sent me a link

to an article that references this.

--- In , Margaret schindler <mask1936@...>

wrote:

>

> I am new to the group, altho' I have had RA since I was a

teenager. Currently, I am on Remicade every other month.

Methotrexate 15 mg once a week, and Prednisone stuck at 15 mg for

almost 2 years.

> Two problems: I had been on a much higher dose of pred, have

been trying to back down the dose now forever. 15 mg works. If I

drop to 12.5 mg, then I start getting sleepy, achy, malaise etc. I

can't seem to break that barrier.

> Within the last two months, I have gone from a usual pulse of 72,

BP of 110/70 to pulse of 90 and a BP of 180/100. This started about

the time I had two major work stressors and I slipped a disc in my

back bad enough to lead to a foot drop. My GP says my BP is due to

pain, but even as the pain resolves---my BP stays up.

> Anyone have ANY suggestions on dropping the dose? Will my BP

come on down if I can ever drop the pred dose or is high blood

pressure just another problem from now on?

> My mother had SLE and high blood pressure herself. She died of

CHF at 69. My father had his first bypass at 53 and died of CHF at

64. My brother had his first heart attack at 39.

> I am a veterinarian in a rural community w/my own practice, so I

have a relatively physical and highly demanding career. The last

four years have been extremely stressful as I divorced, remarried,

moved four times, took care of my dying mother and her estate, plus

the stresses of keeping a practice going during this. Right after my

mother died, I developed an extremely odd neuro problem---unable to

keep my balance, " hitler walk " , stuttering and unable to think

straight-resolved w/i a couple of months--high dose pred and seizure

medications. But since then, never able to bring the pred back down

to the 7.5 maintenance I had been on before. After 2 years, I am

showing signs of it-thin skin, weight gain(I also had a complete

hysterectomy in the midst of all this too), aging in general...

> any thoughts would be appreciated.

> Thanks

> Dr.

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April 3, 2008

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September 9, 2008

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> Hope you are having a good day.

>

> I appreciate all your knowledge and am getting good benefits .

>

> My real concern is my blood pressure being high..where it use to be

normal.

>

> By high I mean readings like 160/110...higher and lower of that.

>

> What are some of the vitamins or foods..on the program will help

that?

>

> I am getting close going to my Doctor and getting meds for high

blood pressure.

Lola, I'm short on time today because I have to take a trip. Please

look up " blood pressure " in the Success Stories. Your blood pressure

will go up and down as the body needs it, so give it time to level

out. What helps blood pressure the most is the ocean sea salt 1/2

tsp. per day in the Electrolyte Drink and/or added to foods.

>

> My mother died in Aug, and had high blood pressure.

I'm so sorry. I lost my Dad last November so I know how rough it is

to lose someone dear. She didn't die from high blood pressure, did

she?

Bee

September 9, 2008

Mother died of a stroke..died in 3 days

...Lola

...have a safe trip

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: High Blood pressure

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 8:22 AM

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> Hope you are having a good day.

>

> I appreciate all your knowledge and am getting good benefits .

>

> My real concern is my blood pressure being high..where it use to be

normal.

>

> By high I mean readings like 160/110...higher and lower of that.

>

> What are some of the vitamins or foods..on the program will help

that?

>

> I am getting close going to my Doctor and getting meds for high

blood pressure.

Lola, I'm short on time today because I have to take a trip. Please

look up " blood pressure " in the Success Stories. Your blood pressure

will go up and down as the body needs it, so give it time to level

out. What helps blood pressure the most is the ocean sea salt 1/2

tsp. per day in the Electrolyte Drink and/or added to foods.

>

> My mother died in Aug, and had high blood pressure.

I'm so sorry. I lost my Dad last November so I know how rough it is

to lose someone dear. She didn't die from high blood pressure, did

she?

Bee

September 9, 2008

My husband's blood pressure will tend to go up on days he feels bad. He's

been getting cranial therapy and he always detoxes afterwards - headaches &

upset stomach. When he feels better his bp comes down again.

* My real concern is my blood pressure being

high..where it use to be normal.

By high I mean readings like 160/110...higher and lower of that.

What are some of the vitamins or foods..on the program will help that?

I am getting close going to my Doctor and getting meds for high blood

pressure.

My mother died in Aug, and had high blood pressure.

Thank you for your advice,

Lola

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September 10, 2008

>

> Mother died of a stroke..died in 3 days

> ..Lola

Lola, therefore she didn't die from having high blood pressure. High

blood pressure was just a sign or a symptom of the " real cause " of her

stroke.

Bee

September 10, 2008

Lola,

Are you doing Bee's recommended supplements 100%, as well as all the

extras like 6 T VCO, CLO, celtic salt/electrolyte drink, etc....???

My blood pressure used to be high, and on this program, it now

AVERAGES 110/70 (or less). I think a big key for lowering blood

pressure is the magnesium citrate... I take 800 mg per day and 600 mg

of calcium citrate.

How long have you been on teh program?

Doug

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> Hope you are having a good day.

>

> I appreciate all your knowledge and am getting good benefits .

>

> My real concern is my blood pressure being high..where it use to be

normal.

>

> By high I mean readings like 160/110...higher and lower of that.

>

> What are some of the vitamins or foods..on the program will help

that?

>

> I am getting close going to my Doctor and getting meds for high

blood pressure.

>

> My mother died in Aug, and had high blood pressure.

>

> Thank you for your advice,

>

> Lola

>

September 23, 2008

I was always hypotensive, (low blood pressure). Recently I had my start creeping up then in July following some dental surgery started having palpitations. Dr put me on a calcium channel blocker for this. The first one I had reaction to, so they switched me to Verapamil and it is controlling the blood pressure and the palpitations somewhat. I have a strong family history of cardiac problems, also the genetic high cholesterol. Recently had a thallium stress test done and it shows that sometime in the last 2 years I have had a heart attack. The reason 2 years is in 2006 had to have a cardiologist ok colon resection, and in 2005 had a stress test and cardiac cath done that showed everything to be normal. I am one that was on phen/phen, and had no damage done at the time of the class action law suit. When start treatment for high blood pressure, it sometimes can take several attempts with different drugs, dosage and combinations to get the one that works for you. What works for your mother won't necessarily work for you. Sandie -- High blood pressure Ugh! Here I am at 56 with the same problem my parents had at my age. High blood pressure (and sadly stroke) run on both sides of my family. I'm taking Atenolol (a beta blocker), but it doesn't seem to help much. My mother takes Avapro every day she's 87 and runs circles around me!!!!), and she takes Clonidine for when she gets severe spikes - her BP has gone as high as 240, and she hasn't stroked out yet, although she's been in the ER plenty of times! Just wondering if anyone else on our board has high blood pressure along with FMS/CFIDS? My BP has been normal all my life until just recently! Mostly I hear from readers with FMS/CFIDS who suffer with LOW blood pressure problems. Dom ------------------------------------

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