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Hi Elly,

Try using plain distilled vinegar (about 1/2 C.) in your washer rinse

water. I sometimes also use tea tree oil - 2 capsful. I use tea tree

oil body soaps and shampoo too. It sounds like you also have MCS from

chemical exposure of some kind.

Barth

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E> Hello,

E> After exposure to resistent fungi and heavy metal I experience

hypersensitivity, probably in connection to moulds/mycotoxins,

E> for my sensation the quantity remains on new things which come in contact

with what I wear with me. Especially textile, paper, plastics or synthetic

materials. I recognise strongly symptoms in the

E> text 'molds and chronic illness,which I found somewhere.

E> Since this hypersensitivity my comfort of living is gone. Washing clothes,

even on high temperature, or with bleach product, or with essential oils

antifungi, doesn't help. It's also in my hair.

E> Shampoo of aloe + jojoba oil seems to help for my hair, I just discovered. I

try it out for my cloths now. My nerve system, movements,gut, are not 100% OK.

If I change cloths, house, bed, car,

E> very frequently , and if I for sure cover the things I use with

aluminiumpaper, my health recovers. Most bad for me are the 'infected' plastics,

mobile, keyboard of my laptop, synthetic curtains,

E> etc...

E> I like any practical or medical advise while I'm waiting for results of

neurological research. I'd like to try out cholestyramine or questram. What to

do with the hypersensitivity which started

E> after trying to empty my house of books, furniture, etc.? The result of

visualcontrastsensitivitytest from Ritchie Shoemaker of

www.chronicneurotoxins.com showed exposure to biotoxins.

E> With kind regards,

E> Elly

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Elly,

Your reactions and the objects you are reacting to sound more

complex than just mold. While the mold growth exposure may

have triggered a broader and more general chemical intolerance

both must be dealt with, not just mold issues.

Fundamentally the best response is to remedy the harm from the

mold and make sure all sources of mold growth have been

removed. When you say " resistent fungi " do you mean it was

resistent to medical treatment or resistent to remediation in your

home?

In the meantime, be aware of, and avoid as much as possible,

the non-mold objects which now trigger reactions. Simultaneous

chemical exposures are often (but no always) confused with

cross-contamination of the mold spores, bacteria, and various

fragments including mycotoxins.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Hello,

After exposure to resistent fungi and heavy metal I experience

hypersensitivity, probably in connection to moulds/mycotoxins,

for my sensation the quantity remains on new things which come in

contact with what I wear with me. Especially textile, paper, plastics or

synthetic materials. I recognise strongly symptoms in the text 'molds and

chronic illness,which I found somewhere.

Since this hypersensitivity my comfort of living is gone. Washing clothes,

even on high temperature, or with bleach product, or with essential oils

antifungi, doesn't help. It's also in my hair. Shampoo of aloe + jojoba oil

seems to help for my hair, I just discovered. I try it out for my cloths

now. My nerve system, movements,gut, are not 100% OK. If I change

cloths, house, bed, car, very frequently , and if I for sure cover the things

I use with aluminiumpaper, my health recovers. Most bad for me are the

'infected' plastics, mobile, keyboard of my laptop, synthetic curtains,

etc...

I like any practical or medical advise while I'm waiting for results of

neurological research. I'd like to try out cholestyramine or questram.

What to do with the hypersensitivity which started after trying to empty

my house of books, furniture, etc.? The result of

visualcontrastsensitivitytest from Ritchie Shoemaker of

www.chronicneurotoxins.com showed exposure to biotoxins.

With kind regards,

Elly

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hi Elly, i experience the same phenomena. It can be hard to seperate the

chemical reactivity to the mould hypersensitivity which does make things more

difficult. However i've found that some reactions i only get when around mold

and not around chemicals. Pay attention to reactions you get outside of your

house and when you come back in. Theres probably a lot of places you will notice

your chemical sensitivities away from mold exposures and notice a difference in

the two, Many symptoms i thought were chemical turned out to instead be mold and

im becoming much more aware of what are mold reactions. If you can take a

holiday away from your house and see if you feel better that would be beneficial

as well.

If you do feel a lot better then worse when you return perhaps some greater

level of avoidance is needed than what you are currently practicing?? Hopefully

your sensitivities are mostly chemical, they are a lot easier to deal with and

escape from than mold in my personal experience and level of reactivity. It

would be interesting to hear if anyones sensitivity to mould has decreased when

away from exposure. I suspect we are all different in that regard as well.

>

> Hello,

> After exposure to resistent fungi and heavy metal I experience

hypersensitivity, probably in connection to moulds/mycotoxins,

> for my sensation the quantity remains on new things which come in contact with

what I wear with me. Especially textile, paper, plastics or synthetic materials.

I recognise strongly symptoms in the text 'molds and chronic illness,which I

found somewhere.

> Since this hypersensitivity my comfort of living is gone. Washing clothes,

even on high temperature, or with bleach product, or with essential oils

antifungi, doesn't help. It's also in my hair. Shampoo of aloe + jojoba oil

seems to help for my hair, I just discovered. I try it out for my cloths now. My

nerve system, movements,gut, are not 100% OK. If I change cloths, house, bed,

car, very frequently , and if I for sure cover the things I use with

aluminiumpaper, my health recovers. Most bad for me are the 'infected' plastics,

mobile, keyboard of my laptop, synthetic curtains, etc...

> I like any practical or medical advise while I'm waiting for results of

neurological research. I'd like to try out cholestyramine or questram. What to

do with the hypersensitivity which started after trying to empty my house of

books, furniture, etc.? The result of visualcontrastsensitivitytest from Ritchie

Shoemaker of www.chronicneurotoxins.com showed exposure to biotoxins.

> With kind regards,

> Elly

>

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Are you doing any kind of detoxing? It's helping me become less sensitive

little by little.

[] Hypersensitivity after exposure

Hello,

After exposure to resistent fungi and heavy metal I experience hypersensitivity,

probably in connection to moulds/mycotoxins,

for my sensation the quantity remains on new things which come in contact with

what I wear with me. Especially textile, paper, plastics or synthetic materials.

I recognise strongly symptoms in the text 'molds and chronic illness,which I

found somewhere.

Since this hypersensitivity my comfort of living is gone. Washing clothes, even

on high temperature, or with bleach product, or with essential oils antifungi,

doesn't help. It's also in my hair. Shampoo of aloe + jojoba oil seems to help

for my hair, I just discovered. I try it out for my cloths now. My nerve system,

movements,gut, are not 100% OK. If I change cloths, house, bed, car, very

frequently , and if I for sure cover the things I use with aluminiumpaper, my

health recovers. Most bad for me are the 'infected' plastics, mobile, keyboard

of my laptop, synthetic curtains, etc...

I like any practical or medical advise while I'm waiting for results of

neurological research. I'd like to try out cholestyramine or questram. What to

do with the hypersensitivity which started after trying to empty my house of

books, furniture, etc.? The result of visualcontrastsensitivitytest from Ritchie

Shoemaker of www.chronicneurotoxins.com showed exposure to biotoxins.

With kind regards,

Elly

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Maybe someone else here can explain what the mechanism is but I believe it was

working in a moldy room that started my illness and chemials that finished me

off.

Now I am not exposed to molds at home and I live in the desert where there is

little mold around me. But chemicals make me very ill. Fabric softener will

give me an instant migraine and weakness. diesel will make my stomach churn and

belch. Perfume will send me to bed for days. I can't say what would happend if

exposed to mold but I am sure it would be bad.

I work hard to avoid chemicals and no longer have that cooking feeling inside

or nystagmus thank heaven. But I still get the slows and tipping over feeling.

I have fallen over four times, just lost my balance. amy senses beome slow

around gas and I have had a couple fender benders. It is hard to deal with the

loss of confidance. I have a custom motorcycle in the garage I love to ride but

it is covered in dust. I used to scuba dive and my equipment sits there because

I am afraid of vertigo underwater.

I hope someday I will feel well enough to take up those sports but not now. If

I lived in a moldy environment I think I would be crazy. We need to do

everything we can to hange our environment and get better. Don't expect much

help as not many people understand.

Meredith

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hi khandalah,

it's really VERY similar. When I rented a new home, at the same time a new car,

and had new clothes, there were NO hypersensitivity anymore. I did this as a

test. I immediately recover and had 2 days of complete health...till I had

courage to wash my 'infected' clothes a secund time, for safety at another

location. Instead of getting clean these, my new clothes and my new reading book

get infected too, I came back in the 2days new home, I had enough particles with

me to get the symptoms again,also there, and even I was not able to stay living

and sleeping in the house I rented for a week. The company where I rented gave

me a 2nd house to live the rest of the week. After getting an 'infected'

newspaper from the house of my mother (where I cannot come anymore as well, with

same symptoms and heavy reactions on textile there) , the same happened again.

Even in the plastic key of a new car , after some days, I taste it. New pc's,

for example, in a library, new clothes, new things, are no problem.

I should have to start a new live nude and never look back to places, things and

people I know from before. Instead I hope to become stronger.

Probably specefic nutrients are missing. I hope my new doctor will help me in

research,

>

>

> hi Elly, i experience the same phenomena. It can be hard to seperate the

chemical reactivity to the mould hypersensitivity which does make things more

difficult. However i've found that some reactions i only get when around mold

and not around chemicals. Pay attention to reactions you get outside of your

house and when you come back in. Theres probably a lot of places you will notice

your chemical sensitivities away from mold exposures and notice a difference in

the two, Many symptoms i thought were chemical turned out to instead be mold and

im becoming much more aware of what are mold reactions. If you can take a

holiday away from your house and see if you feel better that would be beneficial

as well.

>

> If you do feel a lot better then worse when you return perhaps some greater

level of avoidance is needed than what you are currently practicing?? Hopefully

your sensitivities are mostly chemical, they are a lot easier to deal with and

escape from than mold in my personal experience and level of reactivity. It

would be interesting to hear if anyones sensitivity to mould has decreased when

away from exposure. I suspect we are all different in that regard as well.

>

>

>

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Anita, can you be more specific on your detoxing regiment?

>

> Are you doing any kind of detoxing? It's helping me become less sensitive

little by little.

>

>

> [] Hypersensitivity after exposure

>

> Hello,

> After exposure to resistent fungi and heavy metal I experience

hypersensitivity, probably in connection to moulds/mycotoxins,

> for my sensation the quantity remains on new things which come in contact with

what I wear with me. Especially textile, paper, plastics or synthetic materials.

I recognise strongly symptoms in the text 'molds and chronic illness,which I

found somewhere.

> Since this hypersensitivity my comfort of living is gone. Washing clothes,

even on high temperature, or with bleach product, or with essential oils

antifungi, doesn't help. It's also in my hair. Shampoo of aloe + jojoba oil

seems to help for my hair, I just discovered. I try it out for my cloths now. My

nerve system, movements,gut, are not 100% OK. If I change cloths, house, bed,

car, very frequently , and if I for sure cover the things I use with

aluminiumpaper, my health recovers. Most bad for me are the 'infected' plastics,

mobile, keyboard of my laptop, synthetic curtains, etc...

> I like any practical or medical advise while I'm waiting for results of

neurological research. I'd like to try out cholestyramine or questram. What to

do with the hypersensitivity which started after trying to empty my house of

books, furniture, etc.? The result of visualcontrastsensitivitytest from Ritchie

Shoemaker of www.chronicneurotoxins.com showed exposure to biotoxins.

> With kind regards,

> Elly

>

>

>

>

>

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Maybe someone else here can explain what the mechanism is but I

believe it was working in a moldy room that started my illness and

chemials that finished me off.

Now I am not exposed to molds at home and I live in the desert where

there is little mold around me. But chemicals make me very ill.

Fabric softener will give me an instant migraine and weakness. diesel

will make my stomach churn and belch. Perfume will send me to bed for

days. I can't say what would happend if exposed to mold but I am sure

it would be bad.

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My understanding from reading Mold Warriors is that people with

certain genotypes become sensitized to mold and it does not reverse.

some with the " worst " genotypes go on to develop MCS.

However, I think you are fooling yourself by thinking that by living

in the desert you are not exposed to mold. I live in southern AZ with

humidity aroiund 4% for much of the year; however we do get some rain

in the winter and in the summer monsoon. And roofs leak, you may have

a swamp (evaporative) cooler, which nearly always leaks, you may have

had a plumbing leak. Toxic molds will establish a stronghold inside a

wall, under carpet, or on the top of ceiling tiles or any place they

can, and are usually out of sight. Outdoors, they can't establish this

stronghold because there are checks and balances present that don't

allow one nasty spieces to have an unchecked growth. So my point is

that you could still be living in a moldy building and not be aware of

it, desert or no desert.

MA

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> However, I think you are fooling yourself by thinking that by living

> in the desert you are not exposed to mold. I live in southern AZ with

> humidity aroiund 4% for much of the year; however we do get some rain

> in the winter and in the summer monsoon. And roofs leak, you may have

> a swamp (evaporative) cooler, which nearly always leaks, you may have

> had a plumbing leak.

>

> MA

>

I don't think that there is no mold at all I just don't have much to contend

with in my house. Living in the desert helps from what I read here. I don't

have half the problems others do.

Aside from that, I do most of the repairs, replace electrical, service the

cooler, crawl in the attic to run wires, etc. I know what is there. I just

replaced the kitchen faucet and found there was a wet spot under the sink. I

pulled out the dry wall and found a one foot square of mold (with mask and

gloves). In a 30 year old house that's not bad but like I said I maintain it.

I have found mold in the compost also but I don't worry about it too much I just

turn it under again. If people would maintain their homes it would help allot.

I am fortunate to have carpenter friends who can help if needed but my daughter

and I can lay roofing. I just put a foam roof on a mobile which has stopped the

leaks from not having a cooler maintained. Wasn't me.

As my old safety coordinator loves to tell teachers " mold is everywhere! "

Meredith

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Do you know how to remove? I think time is necessary to get everything dry.

Still than I'm not sure if I can stand the atmosphere because of this high

sensitivity. Perhaps time heals both when avoiding exposure?

Greeting,

Elly

>

> Elly,

>

> Your reactions and the objects you are reacting to sound more

> complex than just mold. While the mold growth exposure may

> have triggered a broader and more general chemical intolerance

> both must be dealt with, not just mold issues.

>

> Fundamentally the best response is to remedy the harm from the

> mold and make sure all sources of mold growth have been

> removed. When you say " resistent fungi " do you mean it was

> resistent to medical treatment or resistent to remediation in your

> home?

>

> In the meantime, be aware of, and avoid as much as possible,

> the non-mold objects which now trigger reactions. Simultaneous

> chemical exposures are often (but no always) confused with

> cross-contamination of the mold spores, bacteria, and various

> fragments including mycotoxins.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

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