Depression and anxiety

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I wish I could help you. Even though you say nothing has changed

recently, how about going back a month or two ago? Sometimes a

medication or supplement change can take awhile to catch up to you.

What about something else changing in the past month or so that is

not related to foods or medication? Has anything in your house

changed that could affect you? Or is there something coming up that

you may be anticipating?

I hope you will call your doctor if things get really rough. He/she

might be able to pick up on something.

Big hug to you,

> i have been pretty much free of depression and had much reduced

> anxiety for a while now but yesterday i woke up unable to

concentrate

> and really edgy and nervous. easily startled and a sense of

looming

> dread. today there is full depression. it is so long since i felt

> like this i feel weighted down by darkness. and all the time the

> thought " crusher is coming " is percolating through consiousness. i

> don't dream but i dreamed of something foul rolling through the

> cosmos towards me. the hairs on my arms keep standing up and i

want

> to run. it feels a bit like an adrenalin surge that is going on

and

> on. its so bad that a while ago i was checking out airfares. i

think

> if my son hadnt come round i would have left. i have no idea why

this

> is happening. i have eaten nothing different. no changes at home

or

> work. and i want it to go away. i do not want to live with

> depression or anxiety any more now i know what it is to be free.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I understand where you are. I'm there also. I was free of depression for

quite some time and now find myself sliding back through that dark abyss.

I'm on my second medication and still see no results. I know from past

experiences, it's too soon to tell. But unlike before, I had an instant fix

on the medication I was given. It didn't work this time and now I'm trying

another SSRI. Next week I will also begin seeing a psychologist twice a

month.

Hang in there and find your way. I'm convinced depression is a lifelong

illness and our fight is an uphill battle, but not an impossible one to

conquer.

My prayers and thoughts are with you as I too struggle to find my way out of

this dark cloud that continously hoovers over me. If you'd like to talk

anytime, please email me privately. I'll listen and share. Maybe together we

can crawl our way back to the brief joy we know can exsist.

Sheila

>From: " cindykelley1 " Reply- To:

> Subject: [ ] Re: depression

>and anxiety Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:39:38 -0000

>

>Hi,

>

>

>I wish I could help you. Even though you say nothing has changed recently,

>how about going back a month or two ago? Sometimes a medication or

>supplement change can take awhile to catch up to you. What about something

>else changing in the past month or so that is not related to foods or

>medication? Has anything in your house changed that could affect you? Or is

>there something coming up that you may be anticipating?

>

>

>I hope you will call your doctor if things get really rough. He/she might

>be able to pick up on something.

>

>

>Big hug to you,

>

> > i have been pretty much

>free of depression and had much reduced > anxiety for a while now but

>yesterday i woke up unable to concentrate > and really edgy and nervous.

>easily startled and a sense of looming > dread. today there is full

>depression. it is so long since i felt > like this i feel weighted down by

>darkness. and all the time the > thought " crusher is coming " is percolating

>through consiousness. i > don't dream but i dreamed of something foul

>rolling through the > cosmos towards me. the hairs on my arms keep standing

>up and i want > to run. it feels a bit like an adrenalin surge that is

>going on and > on. its so bad that a while ago i was checking out airfares.

>i think > if my son hadnt come round i would have left. i have no idea why

>this > is happening. i have eaten nothing different. no changes at home or

> > work. and i want it to go away. i do not want to live with > depression

>or anxiety any more now i know what it is to be free.

>

_________________________________________________________________

Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

http://www.hotmail.com

[Guest guest]

thx for kind reply. no-fenol is the change and that has helped. i

will think about what else might have changed.

g.

> > i have been pretty much free of depression and had much reduced

> > anxiety for a while now but yesterday i woke up unable to

> concentrate

> > and really edgy and nervous. easily startled and a sense of

> looming

> > dread. today there is full depression. it is so long since i

felt

> > like this i feel weighted down by darkness. and all the time the

> > thought " crusher is coming " is percolating through consiousness.

i

> > don't dream but i dreamed of something foul rolling through the

> > cosmos towards me. the hairs on my arms keep standing up and i

> want

> > to run. it feels a bit like an adrenalin surge that is going on

> and

> > on. its so bad that a while ago i was checking out airfares. i

> think

> > if my son hadnt come round i would have left. i have no idea why

> this

> > is happening. i have eaten nothing different. no changes at

home

> or

> > work. and i want it to go away. i do not want to live with

> > depression or anxiety any more now i know what it is to be free.

[Guest guest]

thank you for replying and offer of support. i guess i had just

assumed it would be ok as long as i took no-fenol. maybe i could try

a slightly higher dose. but then i worry, do i have to keep

increasing the dose to stay ok. that is not acceptable to me.

merlin.

> i have been pretty

much

> >free of depression and had much reduced > anxiety for a while now

but

> >yesterday i woke up unable to concentrate > and really edgy and

nervous.

> >easily startled and a sense of looming > dread. today there is

full

> >depression. it is so long since i felt > like this i feel weighted

down by

> >darkness. and all the time the > thought " crusher is coming " is

percolating

> >through consiousness. i > don't dream but i dreamed of something

foul

> >rolling through the > cosmos towards me. the hairs on my arms keep

standing

> >up and i want > to run. it feels a bit like an adrenalin surge

that is

> >going on and > on. its so bad that a while ago i was checking out

airfares.

> >i think > if my son hadnt come round i would have left. i have no

idea why

> >this > is happening. i have eaten nothing different. no changes at

home or

> > > work. and i want it to go away. i do not want to live with >

depression

> >or anxiety any more now i know what it is to be free.

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

> http://www.hotmail.com

[Guest guest]

---I was wondering how much no-fenol are you taking? my almost 4 year

old son takes one whole capsule with each meal and 1/2 with snacks. If

I do not give enough he has problems with agression and hyperness. So

maybe you dont have to keep giving yourself more and more but be open

to the possibility that you just are not giving yourself enough

especially if you eat a high phenol food. Also, have you had yourself

tested for heavy metals? If not you may want to do a hair analysis as

this is a good way to find out true body burden of metals toxicity. My

son needs a lot of no-fenol and he has high antimony and lead. (just a

thought)I hope yu feel better soon.

Patti

In @y..., " gprobs " <gprobs@y...> wrote:

> thank you for replying and offer of support. i guess i had just

> assumed it would be ok as long as i took no-fenol. maybe i could try

> a slightly higher dose. but then i worry, do i have to keep

> increasing the dose to stay ok. that is not acceptable to me.

>

> merlin.

>

> > i have been pretty

> much

> > >free of depression and had much reduced > anxiety for a while now

> but

> > >yesterday i woke up unable to concentrate > and really edgy and

> nervous.

> > >easily startled and a sense of looming > dread. today there is

> full

> > >depression. it is so long since i felt > like this i feel weighted

> down by

> > >darkness. and all the time the > thought " crusher is coming " is

> percolating

> > >through consiousness. i > don't dream but i dreamed of something

> foul

> > >rolling through the > cosmos towards me. the hairs on my arms keep

> standing

> > >up and i want > to run. it feels a bit like an adrenalin surge

> that is

> > >going on and > on. its so bad that a while ago i was checking out

> airfares.

> > >i think > if my son hadnt come round i would have left. i have no

> idea why

> > >this > is happening. i have eaten nothing different. no changes at

> home or

> > > > work. and i want it to go away. i do not want to live with >

> depression

> > >or anxiety any more now i know what it is to be free.

> > >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

> > http://www.hotmail.com

[Guest guest]

mercury and lead are definite problems but it will be a long time

before i can chelate. hair testing is a good idea. i will research

to find out where it can be done in OZ. it could be that i now need

a bit more no-fenol. i have only been having 1 capsule across the

day. i am nervous of changing doses because my system seems to

respond violently to changes. initially even this tiny dose of no-

fenol was hugely upsetting.

g.

> ---I was wondering how much no-fenol are you taking? my almost 4

year

> old son takes one whole capsule with each meal and 1/2 with snacks.

If

> I do not give enough he has problems with agression and hyperness.

So

> maybe you dont have to keep giving yourself more and more but be

open

> to the possibility that you just are not giving yourself enough

> especially if you eat a high phenol food. Also, have you had

yourself

> tested for heavy metals? If not you may want to do a hair analysis

as

> this is a good way to find out true body burden of metals toxicity.

My

> son needs a lot of no-fenol and he has high antimony and lead.

(just a

> thought)I hope yu feel better soon.

> Patti

[Guest guest]

> i have been pretty much free of depression and had much reduced

> anxiety for a while now but yesterday i woke up unable to

concentrate

> and really edgy and nervous. easily startled and a sense of looming

> dread. today there is full depression.

For me, it would be yeast or bacteria, or something environmental

[like certain trees in bloom] or it would be a food that I was

sensitive to that I never knew I was sensitive to. For example, I

never had problems with nitrites/nitrates, until recently. But now I

do, they are guaranteed to cause me a headache, even if I use enzymes.

So you might want to eat different foods on different days, and see

if some days are better than other days. Or find out if certain trees

or things are in bloom now [isn't it coming on spring where you

live?].

Dana

[Guest guest]

<isn't it coming on spring where you

live?].>

Dana, it is coming up to Spring downunder here. I wonder if " winter blues "

are having any bearing on this? I know little of the condition but it is

recognised by most naturopaths etc and has something to do with less

daylight etc. May be worth checking.

" g " ....

I am looking for metal toxicity testing in Australia, too. At present I am

checking out a recommended homeopath in Melbourne and have heard of an

excellent one in Daylesford.

If you discover any info on this could you post it please. I'm very happy

for you to email to my address if you'd like.

My son (14) is improving steadily on the enzymes (still GFCF, too) but we

are seeing subtle leaps forward since giving No-fenol. He has 1 NF with

each meal and snack and I try to give one more away from food as well. Over

the weekend he became a bit teary during a concert his dad was singing in

for the first time. It was Mozart and all in Latin, but ds said the music

was beautiful and gave him tears. He was not distressed, just a bit watery

eyed.

Later it struck me that previously he has shown emotion from watching films

etc but this was different. There was no real visual stimulus. The program

was all in Latin! He was responding purely to the auditory; processing it

and expressing an appropriate emotional response! He sat still and listened

for nearly two hours!! He whole demeanour was relaxed and comfortable, then

he went home with his big sister to listen (not watch!) to the end of the

footy! Go enzymes!!! We have also used the Mozart Effect CDs for some of

his co-ordination exercises in previous years. However this chorale singing

was quite different from anything he had heard before. Another WOW moment!

Fran

Melbourne

Australia

[Guest guest]

> <isn't it coming on spring where you

> live?].>

>

> Dana, it is coming up to Spring downunder here. I wonder if " winter

blues "

> are having any bearing on this?

For some people, it is a sign of phenol intolerance, which sunlight

does help, but also phenol reduction helps

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/sad.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

hi annabel

thank you very much.

G.

-- In @y..., " bel Stuckey " <annabel@o...> wrote:

> Dear G,

> I noticed you were wondering if there was someone in OZ that does

hair testing -there is a lab in Melbourne called the Analytical

References Laboritories www.arlaus.com.au that does hair mineral

analysis -don't know anything about how good they are or how their

results compare to the American system but they do pre and post

chelation testing etc and a whole range of other relevant assessment.

Maybe you could check them out

> Regards,

> bel

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i dont think food has changed. and i am have not had any processed

food for a long time. no pollen yet. i might have had different food

and not realized.

thx

g.

> > i have been pretty much free of depression and had much reduced

> > anxiety for a while now but yesterday i woke up unable to

> concentrate

> > and really edgy and nervous. easily startled and a sense of

looming

> > dread. today there is full depression.

>

>

> For me, it would be yeast or bacteria, or something environmental

> [like certain trees in bloom] or it would be a food that I was

> sensitive to that I never knew I was sensitive to. For example, I

> never had problems with nitrites/nitrates, until recently. But now

I

> do, they are guaranteed to cause me a headache, even if I use

enzymes.

> So you might want to eat different foods on different days, and

see

> if some days are better than other days. Or find out if certain

trees

> or things are in bloom now [isn't it coming on spring where you

> live?].

>

> Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Can anyone give advice for depression and anxiety related to the

> candida overgrowth? I would like a natural approach if possible. I've

> talked to my nutritional doctor and I am trying a product called Lumina

> and it seems to help the anxiety but not the depression.

>

> Thank you

>

Hello,

When I had my candida at its worst, I was extremely depressed and

anxious - 24/7 -had trouble sleeping and even just living was

difficult. It is a function of candida on the brain, I believe...

The thing that helped me most, in the short term, was Reiki, or

laying-on-of-hands. It is completely natural, and you can likely find

a practitioner near you. Even meditation was helpful...try just

willing yourself to get quiet and concentrate on your breathing and

nothing else for ten minutes. This is hard at first, but it can be

done with practice. Also, breathing exercises help. Dr Weil has

a great method, where you breathe in for a count of four, hold for a

count of seven, and breathe out for a count of eight. Repeat this at

least five times, and you should start feeling better.

Of course, nothing helps more than a good, clean diet of vegetables,

good protein and lots of water.

Best Wishes...

maryjo

[Guest guest]

My take on this is the TOXINS that Candida can generate is what causes these

emotional symptoms. I find that what helps Candida AND Depression is Coconut

Oil taken along with your meals. A real pick up.

Bonnie

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of pilgrim_MJ

Sent: July 26, 2008 12:41 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Depression and Anxiety

>

> Can anyone give advice for depression and anxiety related to the

> candida overgrowth? I would like a natural approach if possible. I've

> talked to my nutritional doctor and I am trying a product called Lumina

> and it seems to help the anxiety but not the depression.

>

> Thank you

>

Hello,

When I had my candida at its worst, I was extremely depressed and

anxious - 24/7 -had trouble sleeping and even just living was

difficult. It is a function of candida on the brain, I believe...

The thing that helped me most, in the short term, was Reiki, or

laying-on-of-hands. It is completely natural, and you can likely find

a practitioner near you. Even meditation was helpful...try just

willing yourself to get quiet and concentrate on your breathing and

nothing else for ten minutes. This is hard at first, but it can be

done with practice. Also, breathing exercises help. Dr Weil has

a great method, where you breathe in for a count of four, hold for a

count of seven, and breathe out for a count of eight. Repeat this at

least five times, and you should start feeling better.

Of course, nothing helps more than a good, clean diet of vegetables,

good protein and lots of water.

Best Wishes...

maryjo

[Guest guest]

For depression and anxiety you could try the vitamins Dr. Abram Hoffer

has been using for 40 years for those, also for curing insomnia and

even schizophrenia. Here's a quick link:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/life_hoffer.html

Duncan

>

> Can anyone give advice for depression and anxiety related to the

> candida overgrowth? I would like a natural approach if possible.

I've

> talked to my nutritional doctor and I am trying a product called

Lumina

> and it seems to help the anxiety but not the depression.

>

> Thank you

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that it's the toxins that cause these problems. Candida give off toxins

that are like alcohol, causing brain fog, memory loss, loss of concentration,

depression and anxiety. Coconut oil is an antifungal so will kill off candida,

causing more toxins to circulate through the system.

What I recommend is plenty of water to flush out the toxins, bentonite clay,

activated charcoal and/or molybdenum to help with detoxification, espom salt

baths, etc. Also Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) is helpful to deal with the

emotional aspects, and the other aspects are dealt with in the physical sense.

Of all these, DIET is the most important. If you are eating foods that feed or

aggravate candida, it's like turning on the heater in your house and then

opening the windows. You keep making an enviroment that is friendly to the

candida, and then trying to kill off the candida. You have to build up your

immune system with healthy foods that do not feed the candida and make your

immune system stronger.

Luv,

Debby in San , CA

147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!

Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology

Group: curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: Bonnie Cole

>

> My take on this is the TOXINS that Candida can generate is what causes these

> emotional symptoms. I find that what helps Candida AND Depression is Coconut

> Oil taken along with your meals. A real pick up.

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

hi all, just wondering what supps etc others have found useful for dealing with

depression and anxiety? For anxiety I tried kava at the recommended dose and at

more than the recommended dose and that did not help enough.

I am chemically sensitive and sulfur sensitivie. My hormones are quite messed up

but my anxiety is very much mostly situational and its likely to get more and

more intense as im unable to change the situation. Any ideas of something quite

strong??!!! Im not depressed but its there lurking, i can feel it lol. Ive found

prozqc very helpfull in the past but with my now messed up chemistry and

chemical sensitivity i dont want to go near psych drugs.

Kindest regards,

D

[Guest guest]

Dana

I am still in a WDB myself and can share what is helping me. Foot baths and

charcoal did a tremendous job helping with removing the toxins I kept/keep

breathing in. That relieved a lot of symptoms. Antifungals too for killing the

mold. The usual protocols of probiotics and nutrients, etc.

For the emotional part, the anxiety and depression and other troubling emotions,

I use EFT, visualization and journaling. It really works. I would not have

made it without those things. I also had to learn to stop thinking negatively,

to stop catastrophizing and to stop believing that I can't make it or get better

under those circumstances. We develop a lot of beliefs when we are ill and they

can create a lot of anxiety. They have for me. The good part was finding out

that most of my beliefs were wrong. I had needless anxiety. So whenever I form

beliefs about my condition or my living circumstances I tell myself that my

beliefs are wrong. I have learned to substitute postive, upbuilding, helpful

thoughts and they make a huge difference in how I feel physically and they

support the immune system. We should believe that we will get well or we never

will. Our bodies listen to our thoughts and respond accordingly. Even if we

for some reason can't get completely well, believing that we will supports the

immune system and helps us get better and gives us peace instead of worry and

calms the body, reduces symptoms, makes us a little more comfortable, makes

coping a little easier.

Sometimes a drug does help temporarily and if you can find one that will help

that you can tolerate then taking it even just once or twice might calm the body

enough to make all the cognitive and emotional work you do after that be

sufficient to keep you feeling peaceful and better. In the past I took Xanax

and it was very helpful and good for anxiety, but it is only good to take at

most a few times. The health professional that used to treat me told me that

all drugs wipe out gut flora. I know that after I took Xanax for two months I

developed a lot of problems and symptoms, temperature problems, sleeping

problems, cognitive problems, and eventually developed a slightly painful

tremor.

I have had so much anxiety in my life, and fear and panic too, it is so awful,

and I hate to think of anyone else experiencing that. I hope that you will get

some relief and calm and peace.

All the best and good wishes,

anita

---From: Dana S

Thsnks very much everyone who replied. Unfortunately i keep ending up in WDB'S

and my MCS, and lack of money (not working),is making it hard to find a place. I

also react to very low level cross contamination. Plus mum is real sick and

therre other stresses in my life. Kinda like my world is imploding on many

levels. My cortisol is very very low.

So the mold or microbial growth is one of the major stresses both physically and

mentally and i need something thats going towork despite being exposed to mold

is this possible?

Kind regards,

D

[Guest guest]

Surella

Glad you mentioned this, I forgot to include that in another post I wrote. I

read in a book on Fibromyalgia once that because of how it affects the mind with

brain fog and causes us to think messed up a good coping skill for that is to

use words like cancel, erase, delete, undo, start over, to get rid of those

thoughts and I have done that ever since. It gives my mind permission/authority

to let go and get rid of troubling thoughts and start fresh. I use words like

dissolve and melt also. Whatever works for you and feels best.

I have a tendency to obsess on thoughts or be troubled by random disturbing

thoughts, especially because of my anxiety, and those words help a lot with

stopping and getting rid of them. I don't have to keep trying to argue with the

thought or resolve it. Some thoughts are too illogical or irrational to reason

with and I have to reject them without further ado. I figure if I have these

kinds of cognitive experiences others might also and benefit from this coping

skill.

anita

---From: surellabaer

Good for you! My mother has a mantra for negative thoughts. She says cancel,

cancel. Kind of telling yourself to get away from the bad thought.

[Guest guest]

>

> Thsnks very much everyone who replied. Unfortunately i keep ending up in WDB'S

and my MCS, and lack of money (not working),is making it hard to find a place.

I also react to very low level cross contamination. Plus mum is real sick and

therre other stresses in my life. Kinda like my world is imploding on many

levels. My cortisol is very very low.

>

Here ia an article i came upon. I use homeopathics

The dosage for these remedies is 6X or 12X. Homeopathic remedies come as lactose

pellets or in liquid drops. They are taken 2-3 times a day for several days. If

they don't seem to be working after several days, stop the drops and try another

one.

Anger

Chamomile is for finicky anger. The child is fine one moment and angry the next.

Lachesis is for the anger of jealousy. This child is critical, suspicious,

contradictory and oversensitive. Natrum mur is for the child who is very

sensitive and gets angry and bursts into tears at any imagined slight. Nux

vomica is used for great irritability which leads to headaches and stomach

upsets with great sensitivity to noises, bright lights and smells. Staphasagria

is for suppressed anger and humiliation causing headaches.

Anxiety

Children express a particular type of anxiety that can be called acute

anticipation. Aconite is for chronic fright and fearfulness. Calc carb is for

children who overwork and overload themselves with tasks and anticipate

problems. Gelsemium is for acute anticipation or for a child who has never felt

well since a particular frightful event. Lycopodium is for children who will do

anything to avoid humiliation and embarrassment or who have not been well since

such an event. Silicea is for children who fear that they will not have enough

energy and constantly moan and whine that they are unable to get things done.

Hyperactivity

This condition is often misdiagnosed in a child who is just too bright and

active for the adult caregivers in charge. It may be due to food allergies, too

much sugar in the diet or lack of attention and discipline. Argentum nitricum is

used for the hyperactive child with a sweet tooth. The child seems to have a

high metabolic rate and is thin, pale, anxious and can't sit still. Calc phos is

suited to the child who likes to play pranks but is still shy and afraid.

Physically there are swollen tonsils and abdominal gas. Chamomilla is used to

calm the excessively agitated child who cannot sit still for one minute and

literally wears himself out to the point of tears. Kali bromatum is for the case

of the child who is constantly using his hands in some form and cannot keep them

still. Lycopodium is used for the child who is exhausted but still can't sit

still. There is irritability and restlessness, mostly around dinnertime, and

lots of gastric distress. Stramonium is used for a severe case of hyperactivity

with violence. There is a characteristic loud and frenetic speech pattern.

Lack of Confidence

The following are constitutional remedies that are given to restore lost

confidence in a child. As the parent or caregiver you may work with a

homeopathic doctor on the treatment of these difficult issues. Anacardium is for

lack of confidence due to abuse or physical humiliation. The child becomes hard

and cold, has no feeling and may become emotionally cold and viokent. Gelsemium

is for poor confidence due to anticipatory anxiety, weakness, illness or fright.

Lycopodium is for poor confidence due to fear of being in public, having been

embarrassed in the past. Natrum mur is for fear of being rejected. Staphasagria

is for poor confidence due to being humiliated. There is deep anger but the

child will do anything to please.

Sadness

Children get sad for many of the same reasons that adults do. The following

remedies can treat the effects of a loss in the family due to death of a family

member including the family pet, for separation due to illness or divorce or for

disappointment. Aurum is for the loss of a very close relative to whom the child

was extremely attached. When this relationship is lost, the child feels there is

nothing to live for. Ignatia is for acute, sudden, overwhelming, shocking grief;

the child can't understand and can't believe what has happened. Natrum mur is

for a child who is emotionally open and whose heart is broken. At that point she

gets stuck there and shuts down emotionally and becomes both guilty and

resentful. Phosphoric acid is for treating a big grief. The child has emotional

and physical symptoms of loss of energy, debility and apathy. Pulsatilla is for

abandonment with grief and sadness and gentle weeping.

If you want to know where I buy from let me know. They are goo dquality and

very helpful to talk to on the phone.\

Meredith

[Guest guest]

>

> which hormones are out of balance?

> if you haven't done so already, you may want to have your cortisol levels

(saliva) and neurotransmitters tested.

> many people who have been sick for a long period of time, tend to develop

adrenal fatigue, which will make dealing with stressful situations worse and

will tend to provoke anxiety. also being exhausted for long periods will often

make you feel a little down.

> have you tried EFT (emotional freedom technique) tapping, grounding techniques

or breathing techniques to calm the anxiety. it won't cure the anxiety, but it

will help the anxiety from accelerating. it may take a little practice before

you get the benefits from it.

>

> I need to try to learn this better. I used it once when I remembered why my

tailbone hurt. I was pulled from the tailgate of a pickup by my feet and landed

on my tail bone at 12. Forgot all about it. We did the EFT. Mercola has a

video of it.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

>

> it may take some time for your symptoms to mellow out some after you get away

from the WDB. I call it chronic reactive state.

> you have to be practicing advoidance and get to where your liveing space is

free of anything that aggervates your condition. one sign that you are getting

this done is that you should start sleeping better and all your symptoms start

to seperate.

> your emotions should get somewhat better too.

DOES IT SEEMS LIKE IT ESCALATES FOR A COUPLE DAYS?

>

> many re-exposures for me can set off my emotions and it's tottally

uncontrolable, be prepared as family/friends might take this as you have kindof

lost it, even when your telling them their purfume is makeing you have a brain

brain reaction among other symptoms.

>

DO YOU NOTICE YOU ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE AGITATED AS THIS HAPPEN?

> it's kind of a catch twenty two for many because when your in the chronic

reactive state you really might not be able to reaconize what is aggervateing

your condition, so really your just have to get rid of anything in your

environment that may be suspect. but you should start seeing a change in how

your felling overall and you really have to pay close attn. to your body and

what it's telling you.

I NOW HAVE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE BATHROOM MIRROR, CONTAINERS OF MEDS I THINK

HELP IN A CAN, AND INSTRUCTIONS ON THE VITAMINS SO SOMEONE ELSE CAN HELP ME

HAven't had to use it yet but often it takes me a while to realize how sick I

am.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

I never know when Im going to get my period now It is so off

Janet

In a message dated 2/16/2011 11:46:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

I'm pretty convienced that I went through menopause during my WDB exposure.

in my 30's-40's.

>

> Dana

>

> I have not had a period since about Oct of 1999. I was only 40. I still

have not experienced the symptoms of menopause. I do not think it is

hormonally related. A doctor told me if you are too sick to reproduce then the

body will not provide the environment for conception. It will also prevent

you from losing nutrients and blood you cannot afford to lose. The body is

smart and does everything it can to keep us alive and functioning, whatever

that takes.

>

> anita

>

[Guest guest]

DOES IT SEEMS LIKE IT ESCALATES FOR A COUPLE DAYS?

yes, symptoms from re-exposures can last a few days to a week, sometimes longer.

washing the sinuses after a exposure can help stop the progression

of of reactions if it's due to what you breathed in lingering in the sinuses.

the faster you get the sinuses washed after you've had a re-exposure, the more

it helps.

DO YOU NOTICE YOU ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE AGITATED AS THIS HAPPEN?

yes, it's uncontrolable.

[Guest guest]

I'm pretty convienced that I went through menopause during my WDB exposure. in

my 30's-40's.

>

> Dana

>

> I have not had a period since about Oct of 1999. I was only 40. I still have

not experienced the symptoms of menopause. I do not think it is hormonally

related. A doctor told me if you are too sick to reproduce then the body will

not provide the environment for conception. It will also prevent you from

losing nutrients and blood you cannot afford to lose. The body is smart and

does everything it can to keep us alive and functioning, whatever that takes.

>

> anita

>

[Guest guest]

I think period menopause kickstarted my MCS. I was so sick and confused because

I was only 43 when it started and, of course, the doctors had no idea what was

going on.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> > I have not had a period since about Oct of 1999. I was only 40. I still

have not experienced the symptoms of menopause. I do not think it is hormonally

related. A doctor told me if you are too sick to reproduce then the body will

not provide the environment for conception. It will also prevent you from

losing nutrients and blood you cannot afford to lose. The body is smart and

does everything it can to keep us alive and functioning, whatever that takes.

> >

> > anita

> >

>