Re: Re: Potential role played by mycotoxins in human intestinal inflammatory diseases.

[Guest guest]

Its not just " getting it out. " As if there are physical substances to be

removed. There are ALSO secondary and cascading effects plus continuing

inflammation which is reactive to additional exposures.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Potential role played by mycotoxins in human

intestinal inflammatory diseases.

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> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 6:13 PM

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> Potential role played by mycotoxins in human intestinal inflammatory

diseases.

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> Dr Marc Maresca

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> Université Cézanne

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> Published on 25 October 2010

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http://www.scitopics.com/Potential_role_played_by_mycotoxins_in_human_intestinal\

_inflammatory_diseases.html

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[Guest guest]

Its not just " getting it out. " As if there are physical substances to be

removed. There are ALSO secondary and cascading effects plus continuing

inflammation which is reactive to additional exposures.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Potential role played by mycotoxins in human

intestinal inflammatory diseases.

>

> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 6:13 PM

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>

> Potential role played by mycotoxins in human intestinal inflammatory

diseases.

>

>

> Dr Marc Maresca

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> Université Cézanne

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> Published on 25 October 2010

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http://www.scitopics.com/Potential_role_played_by_mycotoxins_in_human_intestinal\

_inflammatory_diseases.html

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[Guest guest]

Ok so how do i solve this problem? Thanks

From: Carl Grimes <grimes@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Potential role played by mycotoxins in human

intestinal inflammatory diseases.

Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 7:24 PM

Its not just " getting it out. " As if there are physical substances to be

removed. There are ALSO secondary and cascading  effects plus continuing 

inflammation which is reactive to additional exposures.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Potential role played by mycotoxins in human

intestinal inflammatory diseases.

>

> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 6:13 PM

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>       

>       Potential role played by mycotoxins in human intestinal inflammatory

diseases.

>

>

> Dr Marc Maresca

>

> Université Cézanne

>

> Published on 25 October 2010

> 

>

>

http://www.scitopics.com/Potential_role_played_by_mycotoxins_in_human_intestinal\

_inflammatory_diseases.html

>

[Guest guest]

You need professional medical help, not layman opinion. That said, I realize it

is difficult to find.

But even worse is to try to continue to rely on those physicians who don't

know. We can't force them to believe or to treat contrary to their knowledge. If

they don't believe and aren't open to learning, stop seeing them.

We also need to support those who are working in various ways to educate and to

right the wrongs - and to separate the apparent good guys from the truly good

ones. The ones who hold our best interests as more important than their own.

(not always obvious).

On this group we can share ideas and experiences for possibilities but should

stop well short of recommending specifics. Because we have no idea what is going

on and how it may be interacting with other parts and functioning of your bodies

or your spiritual culture. What worked for us may help many, but harm others. Do

you really want to do that?

Your question is legitimate and highlights the fundamental difficulty of our

dilemma: What to do when the experts don't know and our peers in our shared

experience have very different needs?

The best I can offer is to know there are answers and to keep searching all the

while improving our knowledge of what is possible to change and what is

irreversible.

Search the archives for studies members have posted. Ask us to search for you.

Above all, we can provide honest truth and support. We've all had enough empty

promises and false hope. But we need emptio al support for what is ultimately a

very lonely journey

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Potential role played by mycotoxins in human

intestinal inflammatory diseases.

>

> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 6:13 PM

> 

>       

>       Potential role played by mycotoxins in human intestinal inflammatory

diseases.

>

>

> Dr Marc Maresca

>

> Université Cézanne

>

> Published on 25 October 2010

> 

>

>

http://www.scitopics.com/Potential_role_played_by_mycotoxins_in_human_intestinal\

_inflammatory_diseases.html

>

[Guest guest]

What I have now after WDB is constipation.   Which tells me something about

how my body is elliminating, not good.  

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 1:37:12 AM

Subject: [] Re: Potential role played by mycotoxins in human

intestinal inflammatory diseases.

 

I never had this problem until I was exposed in a WDB.

what you breath,you also eat.

and no, it hasn't gone away,

[Guest guest]

I haven't moved yet--I'm doing so this weekend. Or, not moving, but relocating

(I mean, there's nothing to move since I'm leaving it behind.) I'm hoping a lot

gets cleared up medically when I move. But so stressful--this is the third move

in a year--no, fourth. Sold the house, moved into an apartment, bought the

condo, now out again.

Sounds like your body thinks it's still in starvation mode. I know, exercise is

so hard with fatigue and fibro. I've wanted to bite doctors' heads off through

the years when they've admonished me to exercise.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:27 PM, " osisposis " <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

I dont know why you would still be throwing up, did you get out of the WDB? I

lost alot of weight too. now, with practiceing advoidance I've gained it

back,plus. I'm still not getting the nutreints from my food I guess,I think my

body wants to store up fat cells now.

metabolism disorders probably doesn't help things.

hard to exercise with fatigue and fibromyalgia.

I used to walk alot, hard to do that with the chemical sensitivity and throat

always wanting to close up, constant thirst.

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> Okay, so this is what I was wondering about.

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> My GI problems (inability to keep food down and malabsorption) have so far

caused me to lose over 30 pounds and 6-8 dress sizes. I am now a size zero and

keep losing. It turns out I don't have GERD and I only have mild gastroparesis.

My GI specialists are concerned because I am whittling down to nothing but so

far there isn't a reason why. More tests are in the works

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> Sent from my iPhone

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