Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 >>> It's so sad how having a disease like this changes every relationship I had in my life. Friends and family I thought would be my strongest support weren't- and people I barely know are my biggest support. I have said it so many times before. But, again, thank you all. <<< there is definately a lesson to be learned here. this is the way it is for all of us. strange. kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 Re: [Lyme-aid] Antibiotics > In a message dated 1/5/00 8:49:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, > kenchand@... writes: > > << Antibiotics that must be delivered IV tend to be those chemicals (or > chemicals with carrier agents) that cannot be delivered therapeudically any > other way. >> > sorry this statement really is not true....Penicillin can be > administered...intravenously...or intra-muscularly.....or orally.... > often the condition of the patient has a hand in determining a method of > administration..... The important word in my comment above is " therapeudically. " If the point is to get the antibiotic across the blood-brain barrier, or into the spaces where the spirochete hangs out, and oral or intra-muscular don't do the trick, in some cases it must be done by IV. The point of the original message, though was to question the wisdom of snorting the ground-up powder of antibiotic medication formulated (and tested) to be safe for oral ingestion only. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 Hi Jules, So glad you found your way to our list, I have to agree this list may be all you need as far as support. I used to belong to a support group in my town, but it got too difficult for me to attend the meetings. This list, which I kind of fell into, was a godsend. I have come to know and love many of the list members and we all feel like family. Only someone going through this disease can truly understand what it feels like every day. I wanted to mention that I have heard of many cases of LD flaring after a pregnancy, I would not be surprised if that is what has happened to you. I am just so happy you found such a great doctor to help you through this. In one of your other letters you mentioned your husband is a major supporter for you, that is half the battle....keep him apprised of all that you learn about this disease, but when you see his eyes start to cloud over, and his attention strays, jump back on this list and write to us. Listening to gripes and offering support is what we are all about here. I feel bad that you have so much pain, did you ask the doctor for something? I know when I was first dx'd with LD, I suffered needlessly for well over a year, I never thought to ask for pain meds, and when I saw the relief they brought me, and how they helped me function again, I was kicking myself for not asking sooner. I started out with Darvocets, and two years later have graduated to Vicoprofen, it is true that they begin to stop working and you build up a tolerance to them, but why suffer needlessly? Hugs, Marta ----- Original Message ----- From: <PokeCheck8@...> > << please become an active part of our > group.....ur experiance has much to offer us.....as ours does u.... > lastly.... >> > > Reading your experience (and others) makes me so sad. Are you having > treatments currently? > > I am very glad I found this group- referred to me by Marta. The closest IRL > support group is about a 2-hour drive in MA, and I thought about starting my > own up here North of Boston... but would that make sense? I myself rarely go > out, but I just need- something- you know? Perhaps this list is exactly what > I was looking for. Hopefully, Boston will have it's own rally & can attend. > > <<.not all cases of lyme get a severe as others.....we are all > differant .....when u do feel normal ....savor it.....as some times it is > fleeting and other times it is not....>> > > Before I got pregnant, I did have " normal " days. And on the worst day, the > pain wasn't nearly as bad as it is now, every single day. I hope I'll soon > have some " normal " days again, i've really hit about as low as i think I > could bear. > > <<do u have a relative or friend who could help u with ur baby?.....use > them!!!! stress only makes worse.......welcome again>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 In a message dated 01/08/2000 5:13:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, mlmccoy@... writes: <<I wanted to mention that I have heard of many cases of LD flaring after a pregnancy, I would not be surprised if that is what has happened to you>> That would make sense. I could tell you the exact days it all came crashing down for each symptom- wierd! << keep him apprised of all that you learn about this disease, but when you see his eyes start to cloud over, and his attention strays, jump back on this list and write to us. Listening to gripes and offering support is what we are all about here. >> Ha ha- I'll watch out for the " Lyme Clouding. " << I feel bad that you have so much pain, did you ask the doctor for something? I know when I was first dx'd with LD, I suffered needlessly for well over a year, I never thought to ask for pain meds, and when I saw the relief they brought me, and how they helped me function again, I was kicking myself for not asking sooner. >> I'm going to see how it goes for now. I've always been a chicken about taking meds, even after I had my C-Section, I refused pain killers (I was nursing). I think i'll stick with the OTC Aleve for now- it has helped me. It's good to know I could get something better if the pain got worse. I am actually feeling a bit better today. I never thought I'd say it, but I am. And- ok, I'm going to jinx myself- I haven't had a heart palp since I started the meds! -Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 jules.... at the current time i am still on a sabatical from abx....i was on them for so long that myself and my llmd figured my body needed a break.....they were starting to do more harm then good......plus i felt they were not helping well it turns out they were a little as i have found since not being on them.....plus the timing was right as i was fired from my job(of 18 years) due to lyme and filing a workmans comp suit against them as i got bit on the job......plus we had no $$$ coming in while i waited for ssd( it takes a while rite marta....lol)....and i had no health insurance anymore.....i now get ssd....medicare...and my wife started a job with great benefits.....plus i use the veterans hospital as i am a vet..... i am happy that ur spouse is helpful most are....we tend to start our own problems with them as we feel we are not pulling our weight.....yes gang me and the wife had a long heart to heart last nite.......she understands my frustration but does not know what to do to help.....neither do i then express it when i have it......something i have not been doing....arghhhhhhh.......jules if u have trusted neighbor or someone .....maybe ur church who could help u with ur child avail urself of it......u do need large amounts of rest with this disease......sometimes ur body just makes u do it.....such as mine has lately.....weather changes and atmospheric changes know the stuffing out of me........be good and yes i think you have found the perfect place for u......hope to see u at a rally soon......Reid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 julie.....i am sorry about ur marraige....believe me ....and as for working i don't know how u do it.....other than u must .....i just got to a point that i could not anymore and believe me that hurts when u have always put alot of urself into ur carrer and business......personally i finally had to just put myself in gods hands......he took care of our needs......not always our wants.....and we have survived ....easy ...NO.....BUT I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE......as has been said this disease changes our lives totaly...the only ones that truly understand are others with lyme.....when i have a few good days i start looking in the want ads.....my wife laughs .....she is rite reality soon sets in.....what other disease keeps u from making any plans.....or having difficulty following thru on them ....? we hopefully will be going to maine in april.....hope i feel good if not i will get my money out of the hotel bed and tv while the family sight seea....but i know i can drag my self up for a few3 lobster dinners....of that i am sure...yum....... Reid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 In a message dated 00-01-06 21:35:12 EST, you write: << The only people I know of who have gotten better are people my mom knows & told me about. One of them has been symptom-free for a couple years. That gives me hope. Has anyone on this list regained the majority of their health yet? -Jules >> Hi Jules, Yes - my daughter has. Seems the babesia is still hanging on, though. Will be visiting LLMD very soon & he will probably put her on the babesia meds. Once again, I will ask - does anyone know if babesia die-off causes herxes or something similar??? Her heart symptoms (tachacardia) are all but gone - still occasional sharp pain in the area... Must say, though, we're not doing it with abxs alone - we are using RIFE machine (electrical frequency generator - resonance principle). This makes a HUGE difference! Blessings & velcros, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Hello all im new to this lyme-aid...i went misdagnosed for about 2yrs and diagnosed with chronic lyme..(western blot positive)...Mr doc is S.Donta from BU med in boston..right now im on disability from work. After my first 3 month dose of tetracycline 500mgs TID... i did gain great results..but during the summer i had to go off due to the sun. and i went on Biaxin and a drug he used to bring out the lyme. which didnt work so i regressed..i went back on the sumycin and right off the bat went thru the herx. its been about 2 months and now ive kinda regressed again...but stable....is there any thoughts about me being on the sumycin soo long that is not working anymore...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 In a message dated 01/18/2000 4:43:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tzzyalyl@... writes: << Hello all im new to this lyme-aid...i went misdagnosed for about 2yrs and diagnosed with chronic lyme..(western blot positive)...Mr doc is [-------] from BU med in boston..right now im on disability from work. After my first 3 month dose of tetracycline 500mgs TID... i did gain great results..but during the summer i had to go off due to the sun. and i went on Biaxin and a drug he used to bring out the lyme. which didnt work so i regressed..i went back on the sumycin and right off the bat went thru the herx. its been about 2 months and now ive kinda regressed again...but stable....is there any thoughts about me being on the sumycin soo long that is not working anymore...???? >> Hi, and Welcome! Wow, your story sounds almost exactly like mine. We share docs and the same meds, too I'm new here, too. I have been on the Sumycin 500mg 3X/day for 2 weeks. I asked him the same question when he told me I'd probably be on cycles of it for 2 years. He referred me to a paper he wrote: Tetracycline Therapy for Chronic Lyme Disease, Clinical http://x-l.net/Lyme/donta97.htm I'm interested in hearing anyone else's experience from using Sumycin for long periods, too. What does " TID " mean? Take Care, Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 I'm interested in knowing what this RIFE machine is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 Jayne - And anybody else who thinks antibiotics are silver bullets-- PLEASE don't take antibiotics unless you absolutely need to and your doctor has given you a script. Everytime you take an antibiotic, you run the very real risk of encouraging the growth of drug resistant bacteria. When you take an antibiotic, every susceptible bacteria is killed. Fine. But you are covered with and filled with " good " bacteria that help protect your skin, your gut, etc. These will be gone, too. What's left are the ones that are immune to that particular drug which can now set up housekeeping in your body along with all their progeny causing raging infections that no drug can kill. This is worst case, I realize, but the fewer antibiotics you take, the better. Ask your doctor. Viral infections can last for weeks, be very painful, cause fevers, make you miserable and very very tired. But no amount of antibiotics will kill them. And if you are taking immune-suppressing DMARDs, they can be even worse. The best thing you can do if you have a viral infection is take very good care of yourself. Eat right. Get your fruits and veggies and vitamins and enough protein. Get some fresh air and plenty of rest. Rest your mind. Take a page from Gillian's book and get some laughs, either a funny movie, good book or wacky friends. Subscribe to a joke mailing list - whatever - but take care of yourself physically, mentally and spiritually and wait it out. Try to focus on something outside of your pain and discomfort. Do your taxes, cook something, groom the cat - or come by and groom mine as he really needs it! Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 My fear while on Enbrel is that an infection can go wild. For me I'm going to take the antibiotic as insurance. What if it is an infection in the glands? A blocked salivary gland can get infected and this can happen w/ Sjogren's. I watched my grandmothers cheeks swell up bigger than her face when that happened to her. Coming from a large family and with strep being passed around.. I know that a " carrier " can have no symptoms but the siblings that get the symptoms keep getting strep until the passive carrier is treated. We ended up having to haul everyone in anytime one got strep. The docs sent in multiple tests and got pos and neg results from the same people meaning the success rate of the lab was questionable. I remember having to change into my softball uniform, way back in high school going down the highway to the hospital to be tested for strep when I felt fine but my sister made me go in 'cause mom was tired of sore thorats. Having a brother that ended up having heart valve surgery and thinking that maybe an infection when he was 2 caused the problem reinforced mom's decision. Pat B > my dr is so anti-antibiotics.................he made me swear Pat..that > I would stop the antibiotic if the strep was negative....so I did, out > of fear he is watching !!!!!! Am I going nuts...so you think I should > sneak them back in ?? I know it bacterial...viral couldn't possibly > last this long could it? Would a viral/bacterial infection show up in a > cbc and after three days of antibiotics? > dying for an answer to what ails me, > Jayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 Hi Chris Of course you are correct. None of us should have antibiotics floating around our medicine cabinets. And if you do, my advise throw them away. Your GP, Physician, prescribes these antibiotics to fight what he considers an infection. He also prescribes a 'course' which you are supposed to take. If you do not take the specified course, chances are you are opening yourself up to serious infection. You then have the added problem, antibiotic resistant bacteria! For those of you who have satellite television, you might already know about the 6 year old girl in England, who was dying waiting for a heart transplant. Her parents had to go on television to 'plead' for a donor! Thankfully one was found but the child is NOT out of the woods yet. Her original problem, she succumbed to a bug that affected her major heart muscle! In my opinion, antibiotics should be taken sparingly! Love and God Bless Gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Good luck to anyone taking antibiotics. I have been off doxycycline since January and have been unable to clear up a yeast infection that I've had for three months. The longer that you take antibiotics the less effective they'll be in the future. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Hi Diane.. Have you tried Acidopholis capsules for the yeast infection? You should have taken about 5-6 capsules with every dose of antibiotic you ever take. It is a live culture that puts back the " good " bacteria in your system that the antibiotic killed off. Even though you are off the antibiotic now..you should still take about 5 acidopholis capsules per day...it should help to clear up the infection. FYI you don't have to get the expensive brand..it shouldn't cost more than 5-6 dollars a bottle (it is o.k. to get the kind that is combined with apple pectin or goats milk). Good Luck! Rivky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 What type of problem would require being on antibiotics for nine months? lindaj@... antibiotics Hello, I'm sending this again because I'm not sure it worked the first time. I'm sorry if it's a repeat. Hello all. I have been dealing with chronic yeast infections for a few months and am finally feeling like I might be winning, but now I find out that I'm going to have to go on a 9 month corse of antibiotics for another health problem. This is not at all optional. I don't think that the antibiotic it very broad spectrum, but still. Can anyone help me think of ways to try to stay healthy during the next nine months? What do I do? Any sugestions would be great. Thanks in advance. ~Johannah ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE FREE! GET THE OFFICIAL COMPANION TO TELEVISION'S HOTTEST GAME SHOW PHENOMENON PLUS 5 MORE BOOKS FOR $2. Click for details. 1/3014/6/_/469673/_/955946807/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 antibiotics Hello all. I have been dealing with chronic yeast infections for a few months now I find out that I'm going to have to go on a 9 month corse of antibiotics for another health problem. What do I do? Any sugestions would be great. Thanks in advance. ~Johannah I would recommend you look into d-LENOLATE, which is a very effective all natural antibiotic extracted from olive leaves. It actually boosts the immune system as it kills the pathological microorganisms. It is something that you take like vitamin C as it gets used up as you take it and you can't take too much or over dose. There is a wealth of information on the internet about Olive Leaf Extract, and its effectiveness against viruses, bacteria, yeast, fungi and parasitic protozoan. The manufacturer of d-LENOLATE patented a process in 1995, a stereo isomer extraction that concentrates the d-elenolic acid, the effective ingredient, making it the most therapeutic all natural antibiotic you can purchase without a prescription. I am not a doctor but I have been taking d-LENOLATE for about a year now and I wouldn't be without it. The positive things that it has done for my health are too numerous to mention. If you would like to know more about d-LENOLATE, I get mine on the internet at www.otrecure.com I hope you find this helpful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE FREE! GET THE OFFICIAL COMPANION TO TELEVISION'S HOTTEST GAME SHOW PHENOMENON PLUS 5 MORE BOOKS FOR $2. Click for details. 1/3014/6/_/469673/_/955946807/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 repeated sinus infections, which in reality you don't have a sinus infection but Candida----- but it looks like a sinus infection to the DR.!!!! believe me, this is what happened with me year after year from Sept----April. one antibiotic after another. that's got me in this mess!!!!!!!!!Mogdrmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 I have to take the course of antibiotics that has been perscribed for me because I'm positive for tuberculosis and if I don't take it I becaome a public health hazard. If I wont' take it then I think that the health department can take steps to try to make me. I just want to know how to stay healthy while I'm on these medicines. ~Johannah >I would recommend you look into d-LENOLATE, which is a very effective all >natural antibiotic extracted from olive leaves. It actually boosts the >immune system as it kills the pathological microorganisms. It is something >that you take like vitamin C as it gets used up as you take it and you can't >take too much or over dose. There is a wealth of information on the internet >about Olive Leaf Extract, and its effectiveness against viruses, bacteria, >yeast, fungi and parasitic protozoan. The manufacturer of d-LENOLATE >patented a process in 1995, a stereo isomer extraction that concentrates the >d-elenolic acid, the effective ingredient, making it the most therapeutic >all natural antibiotic you can purchase without a prescription. >I am not a doctor but I have been taking d-LENOLATE for about a year now and >I wouldn't be without it. The positive things that it has done for my health >are too numerous to mention. If you would like to know more about >d-LENOLATE, I get mine on the internet at www.otrecure.com >I hope you find this helpful. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >GET WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE FREE! GET THE OFFICIAL COMPANION >TO TELEVISION'S HOTTEST GAME SHOW PHENOMENON PLUS 5 MORE BOOKS FOR >$2. Click for details. >1/3014/6/_/469673/_/955946807/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to >UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Tuberculosis. >What type of problem would require being on antibiotics for nine months? > > >lindaj@... > > antibiotics > > >Hello, I'm sending this again because I'm not sure it worked the first time. >I'm sorry if it's a repeat. > >Hello all. I have been dealing with chronic yeast infections for a few >months >and am finally feeling like I might be winning, but now I find out that I'm >going to have to go on a 9 month corse of antibiotics for another health >problem. This is not at all optional. I don't think that the antibiotic it >very broad spectrum, but still. Can anyone help me think of ways to try to >stay healthy during the next nine months? What do I do? Any sugestions would >be great. Thanks in advance. > >~Johannah > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >GET WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE FREE! GET THE OFFICIAL COMPANION >TO TELEVISION'S HOTTEST GAME SHOW PHENOMENON PLUS 5 MORE BOOKS FOR >$2. Click for details. >1/3014/6/_/469673/_/955946807/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to >UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 I think you have a very valid reason to take antibiotics. I asked because there are plenty of invalid reasons for being put on antibiotics, such as treatment for acne, that have alternative treatments that would broaden the choice of treatment, but your problem is definitely different. I'm not an expert, but here's my opinion: the olive leaf extract would help to suppress the candida while you are on the antibiotic, since it is anti-fungal. And who knows, it might help against the tuberculosis, making the antibiotic more effective. You might also consider having your doctor prescribe an anti-fungal medication concurrently with the antibiotic, such as Nystatin, throughout the time that you are on the antibiotic, to prevent candida from getting a foothold. And be on an anti-candida diet throughout the period, so that if any yeast does get a foothold, it doesn't have anything to feed on. This means no sugar, no fruit or fruit juice, etc. When the course of antibiotic treatment is over, remain on the candida diet, and treat yourself as though you had candida for a while, just to be on the safe side. I think that most problems with antibiotics occur because people aren't aware that there is a potential problem with candida, and so they end up feeding the candida, and not replacing the good bacteria that are lost from the antibiotic, leaving plenty of room for the candida to take over. Replacing the good bacteria that are lost once the course of antibiotics is finished is essential. It might not hurt to take acidophilus throughout the course of treatment, even. You might also invest in one of the " zappers " that Hulda e recommends in her book " The Cure for all Diseases, " and use it daily. Maybe this is overkill, or maybe not. Just my opinion. lindaj@... Re: antibiotics > I have to take the course of antibiotics that has been perscribed for me > because I'm positive for tuberculosis and if I don't take it I becaome a > public health hazard. If I wont' take it then I think that the health > department can take steps to try to make me. I just want to know how to > stay healthy while I'm on these medicines. > > ~Johannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Thank you very much for your reply, I'll talk to my doctor about maybe gettting a perscription antifungle while I'm on the antibiotics. Olive leaf extract sounds interesting, is it anything like grapefruit seed extract? What is zapper? Thanks ~Johannah >I think you have a very valid reason to take antibiotics. I asked because >there are plenty of invalid reasons for being put on antibiotics, such as >treatment for acne, that have alternative treatments that would broaden the >choice of treatment, but your problem is definitely different. > >I'm not an expert, but here's my opinion: the olive leaf extract would help >to suppress the candida while you are on the antibiotic, since it is >anti-fungal. And who knows, it might help against the tuberculosis, making >the antibiotic more effective. You might also consider having your doctor >prescribe an anti-fungal medication concurrently with the antibiotic, such >as Nystatin, throughout the time that you are on the antibiotic, to prevent >candida from getting a foothold. And be on an anti-candida diet throughout >the period, so that if any yeast does get a foothold, it doesn't have >anything to feed on. This means no sugar, no fruit or fruit juice, etc. >When the course of antibiotic treatment is over, remain on the candida diet, >and treat yourself as though you had candida for a while, just to be on the >safe side. I think that most problems with antibiotics occur because people >aren't aware that there is a potential problem with candida, and so they end >up feeding the candida, and not replacing the good bacteria that are lost >from the antibiotic, leaving plenty of room for the candida to take over. >Replacing the good bacteria that are lost once the course of antibiotics is >finished is essential. It might not hurt to take acidophilus throughout the >course of treatment, even. You might also invest in one of the " zappers " >that Hulda e recommends in her book " The Cure for all Diseases, " and >use it daily. Maybe this is overkill, or maybe not. Just my opinion. > > >lindaj@... > > Re: antibiotics > > >> I have to take the course of antibiotics that has been perscribed for me >> because I'm positive for tuberculosis and if I don't take it I becaome a >> public health hazard. If I wont' take it then I think that the health >> department can take steps to try to make me. I just want to know how to >> stay healthy while I'm on these medicines. >> >> ~Johannah > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online >reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day! >Click here for more details. >1/3011/6/_/469673/_/956064262/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Re: antibiotics Thank you very much for your reply, I'll talk to my doctor about maybe gettting a perscription antifungle while I'm on the antibiotics. Olive leaf extract sounds interesting, is it anything like grapefruit seed extract? What is zapper? Thanks ~Johannah Olive leaf extract is anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal. It is safe to use, even at high doses. I think it even has some anti-parasitic properties. I've seen it in capsule form, and as a liquid extract. I take the capsules along with the rest of my anti-candida regime. I've taken both grapefruit seed extract, and olive leaf extract, and they both seem to work pretty much as good as one another in my case. Either one can be used as a prophylactic for extended periods of time. In the book " The Cure for All Diseases " there are instructions for building an electronic device she calls a zapper that you use to pass a special type of electrical current through your body that is capable of killing parasites, bacteria and viruses without harming human cells. It is totally painless, and harmless to people. There are some places in the body where the current can't reach, such as the lining of the intestines, which are somewhat insulated from the rest of the body. But it can reach most other places. You can make your own by following the instructions in the book, or there are also places that manufacture zappers using slightly different constructions, some claiming that they work better, or have a longer battery life, etc. My husband built one for me using the instructions from the book. Unless you have a pace maker, they're perfectly safe for people to use. I thought of one other recommendation that might help you. You might consider using inulin. It's made from the roots of the Jerusalem artichoke, and feeds good intestinal flora, without feeding candida. I think it is made under the brand name InuFlora. There just happened to be an article about it in the Volume 4 No. 4 issue of Healthy Living magazine that my natural foods store always gives to me for free, titled " Enhance the Healing Response of Antibiotics, Improve Your Gastrointestinal & Immune Health with Plant Prebiotics. " The article lists a web site for more information at www.freedompressonline.com lindaj@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Thank you very much for the information. I'll see if I can find " the cure for all dieases " at the library. What else do you take for your anti-candida regime? Thanks ~Johannah > >Olive leaf extract is anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal. It is safe >to use, even at high doses. I think it even has some anti-parasitic >properties. I've seen it in capsule form, and as a liquid extract. I take >the capsules along with the rest of my anti-candida regime. I've taken both >grapefruit seed extract, and olive leaf extract, and they both seem to work >pretty much as good as one another in my case. Either one can be used as a >prophylactic for extended periods of time. > >In the book " The Cure for All Diseases " there are instructions for building >an electronic device she calls a zapper that you use to pass a special type >of electrical current through your body that is capable of killing >parasites, bacteria and viruses without harming human cells. It is totally >painless, and harmless to people. There are some places in the body where >the current can't reach, such as the lining of the intestines, which are >somewhat insulated from the rest of the body. But it can reach most other >places. You can make your own by following the instructions in the book, or >there are also places that manufacture zappers using slightly different >constructions, some claiming that they work better, or have a longer battery >life, etc. My husband built one for me using the instructions from the book. >Unless you have a pace maker, they're perfectly safe for people to use. > >I thought of one other recommendation that might help you. You might >consider using inulin. It's made from the roots of the Jerusalem artichoke, >and feeds good intestinal flora, without feeding candida. I think it is made >under the brand name InuFlora. There just happened to be an article about it >in the Volume 4 No. 4 issue of Healthy Living magazine that my natural foods >store always gives to me for free, titled " Enhance the Healing Response of >Antibiotics, Improve Your Gastrointestinal & Immune Health with Plant >Prebiotics. " The article lists a web site for more information at >www.freedompressonline.com > > >lindaj@... > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online >reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day! >Click here for more details. >1/3011/6/_/469673/_/956090441/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 Re: antibiotics Thank you very much for the information. I'll see if I can find " the cure for all dieases " at the library. What else do you take for your anti-candida regime? Thanks ~Johannah I've taken oil of oregano and caprylic acid in the past, but my naturopath felt that I also had parasites besides the candida, so she put me on an anti-parasite formula that also kills candida. It's a combination formula that has berberine sulfate, grapefruit seed extract, gentian root, goldenseal, sweet Annie, Quassia, black walnut green outer hull, and garlic bulb. And as I said, I'm also taking olive leaf extract. I also take probiotics, vitamins, fiber, and other supplements for other things. Thinking about garlic bulb, you might consider taking garlic too. It's one of those things that are easy to find, either in pill form or you can use whole garlic from the grocery store, and can be taken for long periods of time without much problems. The pills usually don't cause the bad breath that whole garlic does. lindaj@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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