Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 was quoted as having written: >> So many of the problems people report in this group could be avoided by using Dr. Brown's gentle methods of introducing the antibiotic. -- << Yes, but we are impatient. And if 50mg is good, 100 MUST be better, and if 100 every couple of days is good, 100 every day must be better, and if 100 every day is good, 200 must be better. Dr. Brown had both a lot more common sense than most of us, he cared for own our well-being better than most of us. Patience, patients... patience. Geoff soli Deo gloria http://www.healingyou.org/ NonRx herbals, homeopathics & supplements http://www.800-800-cruise.com/ Cruises, tours, resorts & luxury trains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 I'd like to say its not just the people on this list. ITS THE DOCTORS!!! They are the ones who want this over with so they don't have people on this for 5 or more years. Even my sainted doc Goldstein has put one of the people I sent to him on Minocin7 days a week! I was so upset. I want the doctors who are telling the new doctors to do this, o get with the program or there will not be a program because everyone will have to drop out because the AP doesn't work anymore. What can we do?? cooky rheumatic Re: Antibiotics > was quoted as having written: > > >> So many of the problems people report in this group could be avoided by > using Dr. Brown's gentle methods of introducing the antibiotic. -- Chris << > > Yes, but we are impatient. And if 50mg is good, 100 MUST be better, and if > 100 every couple of days is good, 100 every day must be better, and if 100 > every day is good, 200 must be better. > > Dr. Brown had both a lot more common sense than most of us, he cared for own > our well-being better than most of us. > > Patience, patients... patience. > > Geoff > soli Deo gloria > > http://www.healingyou.org/ NonRx herbals, homeopathics & supplements > http://www.800-800-cruise.com/ Cruises, tours, resorts & luxury trains > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 I wrote to the company that put out that essay on angiogenesis, and this is what they wrote back.... cooky Re: antibiotics Minocycline like all the tetracycline derivatives have matrix metalloproteinase inhibitory activities, so they are INHIBITORS not stimulators of angiogenesis. >Hi, > >I have rheumatoid arthritis and have taken Minocin for 4 1/2 years with >success. A doctor just recently told another person taking antibiotics that >it can cause angiogenesis. My question is: Do I have a cause for concern >since I will be taking antibiotics for the rest of my life.? > >Thank you in advance, > >ester Stonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 I am also interested in antiibotic treatment for PA. Where was the " cause " of Arthritis article published? >>> xmac23@... 8/22/02 12:51:19 PM >>> Hello again all - Is anyone undergoing any antibiotic treatment for PA? I have read a lot about this type of treatment, but I'm still a little skeptical! Also, did you all see the " cause " of Arthritis article published by a Harvard researcher. Pretty intereting, but only time will tell if it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 > Hello again all - > > Is anyone undergoing any antibiotic treatment for PA? I have read a > lot about this type of treatment, but I'm still a little skeptical! Hi- I have been on antibiotic treatment for four years now with excellent results- my PA, which was severe for more than 25 years, is almost entirely gone. You can find out more about this on the " rheumatic " group, at www.roadback.org, and at rheumatic.org. I put my history in the " stories " section at the roadback site. best regards, Greenly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Hi , I too was so encouraged by your posts about your success with antibiotics that I decided to talk to my rheumy about it. At the time I was taking 20 mg of MTX a week with some relief but not a whole lot. My rheumy said that he had seen studies where antibiotis had helped people with RA but that he believed that " the reason " they worked were for different reasons than what followers of the AP believe. Regardless, he agreed to let me try Minocycline but was reluctant to let me go off the MTX cold turkey. So about a year ago I started taking 100MG of Minocycline twice a day. Within two months I experience marked improvment and relief from the PA. I have been cutting back regularly on the MTX and am now down to 5 MG a week and planning to go off completely this October! I have abousolutely no swelling or pain to speak of... only a tiny bit of stiffness in the morning which seems to melt away in the shower. I have experimented with eliminating all grains, sugar, caffiene, alcohol, and dairy from my diet in conjunction with PA and with an unlcerative colitis condition without any obvious positive relults from that alone. I do take a plethora of vitamins and supplements including probiotics, milk thistle, Omega 3, vit. E, vit. D, multi Vitamin, folic acid. The only other medication I take is Asacol (for my ulcerative colitis...which is under control). Anyway, I guess you can out me down as an antibiotic success story (knock on wood!). Thank you! Amy in Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi! all, I have been faithfully following all your stories & taking whatever advice I can. I am currently in the middle of a massive flare up & off work for a while. I am trying a Gluten Free diet, with some success...I am wondering about, honey, banana's, prunes & grape juice. Any idea's anyone. My wrists have had to be splinted, my left jaw is inflammed, & for the first time I have redness & flaking around my eyes. I have cut out caffiene, (on decaf) & all flours, wheats, nightshades. I have prednisone & MTX in the cupboard but was reluctant to go that way again. (liver problems previously). I did start the cortisone today in desperation. I also take prothiaden & Voltaren & copious amounts of Panadiene Forte....somebody please HELP ME!! I am looking for diet success stories, some mentioned Asian tonite....are peanuts OK? I eat no meat any more, just fish & chicken. My finger nails & toe nails are splitting & lined & the skin is growing away underneath them...it smells horrible, also my navel is inflammed. Sorry to sound gloomy folks, but I really need some help here, I cannot find anyone locally for support, just my lovely Mum who looks after me. Cheers all!.......Robyn 43/f/Queensland/Australia Charrons <4charrons@...> wrote: Hi , I too was so encouraged by your posts about your success with antibiotics that I decided to talk to my rheumy about it. At the time I was taking 20 mg of MTX a week with some relief but not a whole lot. My rheumy said that he had seen studies where antibiotis had helped people with RA but that he believed that " the reason " they worked were for different reasons than what followers of the AP believe. Regardless, he agreed to let me try Minocycline but was reluctant to let me go off the MTX cold turkey. So about a year ago I started taking 100MG of Minocycline twice a day. Within two months I experience marked improvment and relief from the PA. I have been cutting back regularly on the MTX and am now down to 5 MG a week and planning to go off completely this October! I have abousolutely no swelling or pain to speak of... only a tiny bit of stiffness in the morning which seems to melt away in the shower. I have experimented with eliminating all grains, sugar, caffiene, alcohol, and dairy from my diet in conjunction with PA and with an unlcerative colitis condition without any obvious positive relults from that alone. I do take a plethora of vitamins and supplements including probiotics, milk thistle, Omega 3, vit. E, vit. D, multi Vitamin, folic acid. The only other medication I take is Asacol (for my ulcerative colitis...which is under control). Anyway, I guess you can out me down as an antibiotic success story (knock on wood!). Thank you! Amy in Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi thanks so much for posting your results. I had not heard of antibiotic treatment but I sure am going to check into this. I am afraid of the dangerous drugs out there. I am now on Celebrex which is only deadening the pain some but not all the way and I am so sick of being in pain all the time. Only time I feel pretty good is when I am laying down and i cannot do that all the time. I am not happy with the things that can happen and are happening with Celebrex. My biggest problem is swollen legs and feet and nothing will make it go away. I checked that site out and have gotten a couple of names of doctors fairly close to go to. I am also trying diet with some success but it is not making the swelling go away. My worse problem is my hands and it scares me to think that in the near future I may not be able to use either of them. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Hello Robyn I am sorry that you are being tormented and afflicted by this horrible disease. I do not know your background good enough to definately suggest a remedy. But I will give you my perception of the situation. 1. Strive after spiritual freedom and eternal life. Get the faith and cherish it deeply. Pray, pray, and pray. 2. Slowly begin an exercise program. Set in the hot tub alot. 3. Research how your diet affects PA. I am using the Asian diet with varied American swing. Stay away from fat and beef, and most pork. Chicken, fish, and nuts are the best. You need protein but not to much. The more protein the more purines. No coffee, tea, or soft drinks. Water with lemon only. No breads except for millet breads. Eat alot of honey. Always think vegetables. 4. Avoid stress. It is a killer. 5. Rest alot. 6. Of course no drinking or drugs or smoking. 7. Always think positive. Make it your goal to beat the disease. Enjoy your self as much as you can. Good Times in Dallas --- Robyn Geiger <bobbyg592002@...> wrote: > > Hi! all, > I have been faithfully following all your stories & > taking whatever advice I can. I am currently in the > middle of a massive flare up & off work for a while. > I am trying a Gluten Free diet, with some > success...I am wondering about, honey, banana's, > prunes & grape juice. Any idea's anyone. My wrists > have had to be splinted, my left jaw is inflammed, & > for the first time I have redness & flaking around > my eyes. I have cut out caffiene, (on decaf) & all > flours, wheats, nightshades. I have prednisone & MTX > in the cupboard but was reluctant to go that way > again. (liver problems previously). I did start the > cortisone today in desperation. I also take > prothiaden & Voltaren & copious amounts of Panadiene > Forte....somebody please HELP ME!! I am looking for > diet success stories, some mentioned Asian > tonite....are peanuts OK? I eat no meat any more, > just fish & chicken. > My finger nails & toe nails are splitting & lined & > the skin is growing away underneath them...it smells > horrible, also my navel is inflammed. > Sorry to sound gloomy folks, but I really need some > help here, I cannot find anyone locally for support, > just my lovely Mum who looks after me. > Cheers all!.......Robyn 43/f/Queensland/Australia > Charrons <4charrons@...> wrote: Hi , > > I too was so encouraged by your posts about your > success with antibiotics > that I decided to talk to my rheumy about it. > > At the time I was taking 20 mg of MTX a week with > some relief but not a > whole lot. My rheumy said that he had seen studies > where antibiotis had > helped people with RA but that he believed that " the > reason " they worked > were for different reasons than what followers of > the AP believe. > Regardless, he agreed to let me try Minocycline but > was reluctant to let me > go off the MTX cold turkey. > > So about a year ago I started taking 100MG of > Minocycline twice a day. > Within two months I experience marked improvment and > relief from the PA. I > have been cutting back regularly on the MTX and am > now down to 5 MG a week > and planning to go off completely this October! > > I have abousolutely no swelling or pain to speak > of... only a tiny bit of > stiffness in the morning which seems to melt away in > the shower. > > I have experimented with eliminating all grains, > sugar, caffiene, alcohol, > and dairy from my diet in conjunction with PA and > with an unlcerative > colitis condition without any obvious positive > relults from that alone. I do > take a plethora of vitamins and supplements > including probiotics, milk > thistle, Omega 3, vit. E, vit. D, multi Vitamin, > folic acid. The only other > medication I take is Asacol (for my ulcerative > colitis...which is under > control). > > Anyway, I guess you can out me down as an antibiotic > success story (knock on > wood!). > > Thank you! > Amy in Oregon > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Hi Robyn Can you get Dovonex? I have been using this for years for my psoriasis. It is the only thing that works. You cannot use it on the eyes and I do not know what you can use for the eyes. Another thing I use for the psoriasis is temovate. It is a steriod so I am very careful how much I use it. With the steroid it is 2 weeks on and one off. I dont use much.........as I said......so sometimes I dont go off for the full week but that is only cause I might use it once a day and only on a stubborn spot. I dont know what to do about nails as I have bad toe nails also. My finger nails are getting bad also. You can use the Dovonex on the belly button or get a over the counter cordizone cream. The cream will not work as good as the Dovonex but it is better than nothing. Wish you all the luck in the world. Find a good psoriasis doctor to get you what you need. Verna --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 > Hi , > > I too was so encouraged by your posts about your success with antibiotics > that I decided to talk to my rheumy about it. > > At the time I was taking 20 mg of MTX a week with some relief but not a > whole lot. My rheumy said that he had seen studies where antibiotis had > helped people with RA but that he believed that " the reason " they worked > were for different reasons than what followers of the AP believe. > Regardless, he agreed to let me try Minocycline but was reluctant to let me > go off the MTX cold turkey. > > So about a year ago I started taking 100MG of Minocycline twice a day. > Within two months I experience marked improvment and relief from the PA. I > have been cutting back regularly on the MTX and am now down to 5 MG a week > and planning to go off completely this October! > > I have abousolutely no swelling or pain to speak of... only a tiny bit of > stiffness in the morning which seems to melt away in the shower. > > I have experimented with eliminating all grains, sugar, caffiene, alcohol, > and dairy from my diet in conjunction with PA and with an unlcerative > colitis condition without any obvious positive relults from that alone. I do > take a plethora of vitamins and supplements including probiotics, milk > thistle, Omega 3, vit. E, vit. D, multi Vitamin, folic acid. The only other > medication I take is Asacol (for my ulcerative colitis...which is under > control). > > Anyway, I guess you can out me down as an antibiotic success story (knock on > wood!). > > Thank you! > Amy in Oregon Hi Amy, that's great!! thanks so much for your report!! The antibiotic people generally say not to combine it with MTX, so it's very interesting to hear your success with it. It's also interesting that you had no clear results from diet alone, that was my experience too (although I have read reports of people who had success with diet alone). For me, the antibiotic was the key, but complete success came only when I dealt with the diet too. Anyway, I'm really thrilled to hear you are doing so well. best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 > > Hi > > thanks so much for posting your results. I had not heard of antibiotic treatment but I sure am going to check into this. ... > I checked that site out and have gotten a couple of names of doctors fairly close to go to. I am also trying diet with some success but it is not making the swelling go away. My worse problem is my hands and it scares me to think that in the near future I may not be able to use either of them. Hi- I hope you can find a good doctor to work with you. I have heard of some people who had success with diet alone, but not many. For me the combination of diet and the antibiotic has been the solution. Whatever you do, don't give up. My hands were terribly affected for many years, but are just fine now. Most forms of PA, though causing terrible pain and swelling, do not cause rapid joint destruction as RA often does. But, get a good doctor working with you!!! best regards, Greenly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 I applied for SSD and yesterday had to see a doctor of their choice. I dont know what the results will be. Dont have much hope as they took an xray of my hand and found only a small amount of joint damage. I talked to the doctor and told him before he did it that he would not find anything. That mine was tendon and not joint. He gave me a diet to follow that will clear up the ps but not sure it will help the pa but then it was a no meat or fish. Some suppliments and a salve i make myself to put on the ps. The diet he gave me is like the one I had been trying to incorporate but with not 100% success but is for the pa. It is so hard to give up all meats. I do find that what I eat will cause more pain as I found out yesterday. One of the things he had on his list of not to eat was beets which I ate a lot of the day before. When I went to bed I was in so much pain in my hands and one foot. I could not get comfortable. Salt and pepper is a no no. Nothing spicy. Everything mild including fruit and veggies. No accidic fruit. Eat room temperature foods and drinks. Nothing hot or cold. I dont understand the reason for that and it is hard to do. There is a list of what to not eat and what to eat. I was surprised on the veggies as I never gave it a thought that some of the things he listed would cause a problem but I knew the nightshade family was not good but he has potatos on the list. Only naural sugar like is found in fruits. He also said that one should clear onself of stress. Whatever is bothering them to get rid of it. I know that my pa got real bad when I found out my husband had lung cancer and we could not treat it for over 2 months due to two operations that he had to go through due to a messed up biopsy. He said to leave it all up to God, Budda or whatever one believes or not believes in. Go outside in a quiet place if possible and close eyes, let head fall back and take a deep breath. Empty the mind and sit like that for 10 minutes. I have no idea how I would know when 10minutes is up. Do this in the morning and evening. I do have to say that I have decided to let it all up to God. I also know that since I finally got to that stage I have been feeling better mentally. Before that I was a mess trying to figure out what I could do to keep my hubby around longer. Sorry I went on and on about this. Just wanted to let you know some of my history and how i got in such bad shape......although I am not in bad shape compared to some here. I dont want to get that bad so am changing diet and exercise. Going to try to get that antibiotic treatment. Cannot get into my doctors till after the weekend. Then have to see if my insurance will pay for it. Need a good doctor to get that going. Will let everyone here know how it is all working out. I do believe that what we eat comes out in bad ways in our bodies. It stays in our small intestines for at least 24 hours and in that time our bodies take in all the bad along with the good. Get rid of the bad and I would think that it has to show up good on the body. Also diet is number 1 on the list of things that cause cancer. Number 2 is smoking and thank goodness I gave that up cold turkey 15 years ago although I know that even though I quit it can still cause me problems. Stupid thing to do was start in the first place. Good luck to all in their quest for relief from this terrible pain. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 Hi Dave, You might like to try http://www.1drugstore-online.com/ which Liesl posted up the other day. I don't know how the price on this site compares to the price you paid. They don't require a prescription. Chris. On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 03:26 AM, Dave Wood wrote: > Dear All, > I need to buy more Minocin / Minocycline and was wondering where I can > go > (preferably online) to purchase the best type of Minocin / > Minocycline. I > recently bought 100 capsules in the states and paid quite a steep > price. I > use the 100mg, I wanted to try the 50mg but was quoted a price of over > $800.00 US for 100 capsules. > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Dear Tracey, Allida here! I don't know about the others, but as of now, the only antibiotic my PCP will allow me to take is the amoxicillian. He says it is the safest antibiotic for the liver, and the easiest for it to deal with. It hasn't knocked out my most recent bout with bronchitis, but I am not through with the entire amount yet, so I am still hoping it will do the trick soon. Best of luck with that toothache. I know how miserable they can be. I hope you find some help today. Keep the faith! A. in North Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Perhaps your doctor will give you antifungals simultaneously > Hi all, > > I am pretty much going to have to take the antibiotic, bactrim, for two > weeks, since people with Cystic Fibrosis have chronic lung infections and > I got one about a week ago that is pretty bad. > > My question is, what can I do to minimize the impact that this antibiotic > will have on my Candida treatment? Should I be taking probiotics > concurrently, or is that pointless? Has anyone else had to do this while > on the candida program? > > Thanks! > > Take care, > Erek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Dear Erek, I had severe pneumonia that wouldn't cure with two rounds of antibiotics a few years ago, and the only thing that helped was garlic tea and raw garlic. Garlic is much more powerful than antibiotics; so is oregano oil and many other natural products. If you decide to take antibiotics, take probiotics too, but take them 2- 3 hrs. apart from taking the antibiotics. They used to make antibiotics coated with nystatin because they " knew " it caused candida. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Hi Erek Because of some chronic gastric disorders, and recurring bacterial infections, I've had to take antibiotics fairly often these past 16 months. I prefer not to, for a number of reasons, but sometimes feel I need to go along with the doctors on this. I've learned, in order to keep the candida levels from jumping too high and worsening things, that I do need to increase my probiotics during the course of the antibiotics, and for a week or two afterwards. There is a protocol for this, though, so you can get the maximum benefit from the probiotics, and put the beneficial bacteria back into your body. You'll need to time the probiotics and take them 3 hours following a dose of antibiotic. I think you can also take the probiotics several hours before, but I can't exactly remember how long before. I just take the probiotic (yogurt and acidophilus capsules in my case) 3 hours after the antibiotic. My candida symptoms always jump up regardless of my diet, but, so far, haven't become severe, and are back down within a week. I always go back to the strictest phase of the candida elimination diet as well, so no fruits and low-carb veggies. I haven't yet added back the high-carb veggies to my diet, even after a year on the candida elimination diet. Hope your lung infection clears up. Not good at all! Kim M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 > the yeast under control. But should I wait until the antibiotics are > finished, or is taking them reason enough to increase. How much can he take > a day? Is 3x a day okay? I would give probiotics about 2 hours after every dose of antibiotics, as much and as often as possible. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 In a message dated 10/09/2005 9:39:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, eric_s11050@... writes: > quackery should not be put on any > chatrooms often confusing the hell out of patients whos lives are in > termoil.enough is enough!arsenic is natural and it kills and so is > chlorine. playing a game of eat as much salt as your body can > withstand is also a stupid idea most likely coming from some stupid > person who thinks that a spirochete is like a slug,it is not I assure > you..so please but please stop with the collecting of ticks and > spirochete counts and coffee anemas and the strange concoctions and > witches brews.. *****, you are entitled to your opinion, but please make it an informed opinion. Making statements as you have recently made is very harmful to those trying to decide what choice of treatment protocol to make. All you have to do is go on the Internet and use google.com and you will find thousands of articles and websites which are not quackery......I damn near destroyed my liver and gave myself chronic candida because of my use of antibiotics and this was YEARS before the Lyme diagnosis. ******The man who is making the Lyme homeopathic remedy is right on the mark, as many of us can tell you. You don't understand homeopathy, so making the statement that a remedy can't be made from ticks is wrong on your part. Before making blanket statements PLEASE make it an informed statement. ******Once again I will take my protocol for all my ailments over allopathic medicine. Trauma and surgery is another story. Hell, when I had to have the three surgeries I went immediately to my homeopathic MD and got glutathione IV's to help wash the anesthesia out of my body and brain. ******When I got the nanobacteria lung infection, I did several alternative IV's (hydrogen peroxide/DMSO followed in two days with 100grams=100,000 mgs of VitC) and didn't take antibiotics. When I had the last three surgeries, they gave me antibiotics by IV while in the hospital, because I could get the HP/DMSO or the high dose of VitC IV, but the minute I left the hospital I went straight to my Homeopathic, MD got an IV flush to clean out my body from the toxic antibiotics. It isn't quackery or witch brew or strange, IT IS FACT.....I'm 61 yrs old and had to learn the hard way. I wouldn't however take the antibiotics by mouth and only agreered to take it via IV's as if you don't have infections when you enter the hospital you certainly do when you leave....<sigh> > we deserve to have good health care without fear of antibiotics by > certain groups, it is counter productive to shoot down > antibiotics..that is the only known way off getting better.as far as > the others that got better well we dont know that for sure. > eric *******for the last time, NO ONE IS SHOOTING DOWN THE USE OF ANTIBIOTICS. That is a personal choice, it just isn't a choice I would personally make. PLUS, antibiotics is NOT the only way to get well from Lyme disease!! There are many of us on this lists and other lists who have successfully been treated with alternatives and feel GREAT!! Look who is holding the gun?? You my dear.....just because my way worked for me, doesn't give you the right to shoot my protocol down OR call it quackery. Alternative medicine WORKS!! ******I'm sorry it upsets you because I'm well on my way to being completely well. I only wish that treating emphysema/COPD was easier. My lungs were trashed at birth, then I was stupid enough to smoke for several year.!!! What a fool I was........If I knew then, what I know now, what a different life I would have lead.....I'm taking full responsibility for the stupid choices " I MADE " and I will continue to reach out to folks to try and help them to better understand, so that they can make INFORMED CHOICES! ******In the mean time I will continue reaching out to those that want my help!! I have one question for you......why is it that people get mad and slam a protocol if you get well using alternative medicine?? I personally know thousands of patients who have chosen alternatives and are well today. ******Were you aware that in the 1918 Flu epidemic that killed 50,000 million that those who survived used the hydrogen peroxide IV's? Yep they used hydrogen peroxide on the sickest flu patients and 48% were cured from the flu. One other thing, I don't do " flu shots " never have and NEVER will. There are too many preventatives and if I would get any type of flu I would run not walk to my homeopathic MD. *******Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the angels, holding hands in the " chain of love " ..... Angel Huggzz or Angel LYME Disease MESSAGE BOARD http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=31898 & sparkKey=5deb6043cb822f894a67a93a42ebc294b0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 I have been very happy many times in my life, believe me, antibiotics were my best friend. That was then and since that time I have done everything in my power to help my body do its job and let it fight my battles. I have not needed a single drug in 2 years, and if and when I ever do need one, I will double by alternative supplements to help combat the ill effects of the drugs. You also need to do some current research on the blood brain barrier and what crosses it, because stem cells do cross the blood brain barrier and stem cells can morph into any kind of cell that the body might need, an stem cells are part of our most amazing, created by intelligent design, immune system! Science and Medicine are changing daily, if you are not researching and reading every day, you will get left behind. -- [ ] antibiotics the immune system cannot go into the brain where the spirochete goes to get away from the immune system so helping the immune system is not going to change anything.. " it evades the immune system " most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Yes, take lots of garlic, fresh not cooked. Cut it into small pieces and swallow without chewing. Take probiotics, stick closely to diet. Antibiotics I had to go on antibiotics yesterday. Any suggestions for how to keep my body going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 what is the reno clinic and what treatment are you getting there? curious. > > Has anyone considered the damage to the body with long term antibiotic use? > I think that the standard care for Lyme disease is WAY off. I did not have any relief > from the anti's... I posted info for the Reno clinic a few times here. I read some debunkers telling folks it is a scam...Well, they are not in the position to know anything...One must be in the treatments to see the miracles I have seen!! > Anti's are only effective in the first 2 weeks of infection, once the spiorchete penetrates the blood cells it moves quickly throughout the whole body.. > Very few peole experience complete relief for life with the treatments now available > in the standard medical protocols for Lyme. Next time someone says that the Reno clinic is " bogus " , ask them the last time they were there for the treatments!! > I tell you all, it is a permanent relief from this disease, period... I see it daily, > I have been there for 3 weeks now and am coming back to life...Miraculously!! > I hope more of you seek this help, then you will have real relief and get your > life back, your health restored, and peace knowing the spiorchete is DEAD!! > On my way back to health....JMJ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Sherri, I'm very happy that this is working for you. I'm all for any treatment that helps us recover. Please take a step back and see what you are doing. You are " debunking " standard care for Lyme disease with antibiotics. I'm here to tell you that standard care with antibiotics with an LLMD has worked for me and my family. I have been feeling great for the past 4 months, my wife is off of abx for the past 2 months and she is doing very well and my son continues to improve on the abx. I respect your decision to decide what treatment is best for you. Please respect mine. Be well, > > Has anyone considered the damage to the body with long term antibiotic use? > I think that the standard care for Lyme disease is WAY off. I did not have any relief > from the anti's... I posted info for the Reno clinic a few times here. I read some debunkers telling folks it is a scam...Well, they are not in the position to know anything...One must be in the treatments to see the miracles I have seen!! > Anti's are only effective in the first 2 weeks of infection, once the spiorchete penetrates the blood cells it moves quickly throughout the whole body.. > Very few peole experience complete relief for life with the treatments now available > in the standard medical protocols for Lyme. Next time someone says that the Reno clinic is " bogus " , ask them the last time they were there for the treatments!! > I tell you all, it is a permanent relief from this disease, period... I see it daily, > I have been there for 3 weeks now and am coming back to life...Miraculously!! > I hope more of you seek this help, then you will have real relief and get your > life back, your health restored, and peace knowing the spiorchete is DEAD!! > On my way back to health....JMJ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Your email is full of half truths and falsehoods, sorry. getting relief from Lyme for a few weeks is one thing, we all know that the Spirochete will hide. Come back in a few years. This place is sounding even more like snake oil. > Has anyone considered the damage to the body with long term antibiotic use? > I think that the standard care for Lyme disease is WAY off. I did not have any relief > from the anti's... I posted info for the Reno clinic a few times here. I read some debunkers telling folks it is a scam...Well, they are not in the position to know anything...One must be in the treatments to see the miracles I have seen!! > Anti's are only effective in the first 2 weeks of infection, once the spiorchete penetrates the blood cells it moves quickly throughout the whole body.. > Very few peole experience complete relief for life with the treatments now available > in the standard medical protocols for Lyme. Next time someone says that the Reno clinic is " bogus " , ask them the last time they were there for the treatments!! > I tell you all, it is a permanent relief from this disease, period... I see it daily, > I have been there for 3 weeks now and am coming back to life...Miraculously!! > I hope more of you seek this help, then you will have real relief and get your > life back, your health restored, and peace knowing the spiorchete is DEAD!! > On my way back to health....JMJ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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