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I don't think the fact you put something in there has ruined machine. Maybe

machine is getting moldy itself? Is the machine in your basement or in main

part of house?

>

> As usual, I tried to search the archives for info and it's so hard. So I'm

asking again.

> I think my washer (top loader) got contaminated by some mold on a piece of

clothing. (I'm never washing anything from my Mom again!) I don't know for sure

but my eyes are killing me and I've lost my appetite so there's mold somewhere.

> Anyway, bottom line-is it worth taking the tub out and cleaning or should I

just buy a new one?

> PS I've done a bunch of cycles with bleach, peroxide, vinegar, borax, over and

over again but no improvement.

> Thanks for your help, Surella

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It's upstairs in the den. If that's true and it's not moldy from a piece of

clothing, why is it getting moldy? I keep the lid open 100% of the time and I've

had a washer there for 20 years with no problem.

I'm more sensitive now, is that it? I've already given up on AC's now I have to

lose washing machines?

Are you sure it's not from clothing?

> >

> > As usual, I tried to search the archives for info and it's so hard. So I'm

asking again.

> > I think my washer (top loader) got contaminated by some mold on a piece of

clothing. (I'm never washing anything from my Mom again!) I don't know for sure

but my eyes are killing me and I've lost my appetite so there's mold somewhere.

> > Anyway, bottom line-is it worth taking the tub out and cleaning or should I

just buy a new one?

> > PS I've done a bunch of cycles with bleach, peroxide, vinegar, borax, over

and over again but no improvement.

> > Thanks for your help, Surella

> >

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Of course I'm not sure it's true but I'd look around for other reasons. Is

there carpeting underneath or flooring that could be dampened by machine, etc.

>

> It's upstairs in the den. If that's true and it's not moldy from a piece of

clothing, why is it getting moldy? I keep the lid open 100% of the time and I've

had a washer there for 20 years with no problem.

>

> I'm more sensitive now, is that it? I've already given up on AC's now I have

to lose washing machines?

>

> Are you sure it's not from clothing?

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What we have to remember that all tap water even if chlorinated is contaminated

with some mold. This means that any reservoir that holds water can eventually

develop mold growth. Also, the same is true for bacteria. For example, Proteus

sp. can contaminate stored distilled water. At room temperature the generation

of Proteus is 60 minutes. That is every sixty minutes the population will

double until stationary phase is reached. All Proteus needs for the growth is

source of nitrogen and carbon. Both are dissolved in water. The mold can grow

on the inside of hose and in reservoir that hold water in the washing machine.

Therefore, you may have both mold and bacteria.

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Thanks Barb-it's the first thing I checked. I even went downstairs and examined

the ceiling under the washer to see if the area was damp or anything. Nothing at

all. And to really prove it I have closed the top of the washer and closed off

the room and lo and behold I don;t smell it anymore. It is still bothering my

eyes and mood and appetite because those little mold spores sure do travel but

it's inside the machine no doubt.

I have some names of repairmen but I just don;t know-I would be the one to clean

it when they take it apart and I KNOW that I will be freaking out the whole time

and wanting to get away and I will not do a good enough job and will have to buy

a new machine anyway. Actually, I'm glad I'm writing this because it sounds dumb

and I should be able to do this with help.

>

> Of course I'm not sure it's true but I'd look around for other reasons. Is

there carpeting underneath or flooring that could be dampened by machine, etc.

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So, with all due respect, you're telling me I'm defeated by my washer? I need

some practical advice-from what you're saying it seems I should replace the hose

(great idea!) and what else? Dump the machine and hope for the best next time?

Can it be cleaned?

It never happened before-I've had washers for 35 years-is it the brand? I have a

Maytag. Anyone have issues with a Maytag? Aaargh, I'm so frustrated!

Surella

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> What we have to remember that all tap water even if chlorinated is

contaminated with some mold. This means that any reservoir that holds water can

eventually develop mold growth. Also, the same is true for bacteria. For

example, Proteus sp. can contaminate stored distilled water. At room

temperature the generation of Proteus is 60 minutes. That is every sixty

minutes the population will double until stationary phase is reached. All

Proteus needs for the growth is source of nitrogen and carbon. Both are

dissolved in water. The mold can grow on the inside of hose and in reservoir

that hold water in the washing machine. Therefore, you may have both mold and

bacteria.

> Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

> Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

> www.drthrasher.org

> toxicologist1@...

> Off: 916-745-4703

> Cell: 575-937-1150

>

>

> L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

> Trauma Specialist

> sandracrawley@...

> 916-745-4703 - Off

> 775-309-3994 - Cell

>

>

>

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> This message and any attachments forwarded with it is to be considered

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Replacing the hose as a first step sounds like a good idea. I think I'll replace

the hose on my washer too. Sometimes it smells but I think it is stagnant water

if not used in awhile but may be dirty inside after years.

>

> So, with all due respect, you're telling me I'm defeated by my washer? I need

some practical advice-from what you're saying it seems I should replace the hose

(great idea!) and what else? Dump the machine and hope for the best next time?

Can it be cleaned?

> It never happened before-I've had washers for 35 years-is it the brand? I have

a Maytag. Anyone have issues with a Maytag? Aaargh, I'm so frustrated!

> Surella

>

> --- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@>

wrote:

> >

> > What we have to remember that all tap water even if chlorinated is

contaminated with some mold. This means that any reservoir that holds water can

eventually develop mold growth. Also, the same is true for bacteria. For

example, Proteus sp. can contaminate stored distilled water. At room

temperature the generation of Proteus is 60 minutes. That is every sixty

minutes the population will double until stationary phase is reached. All

Proteus needs for the growth is source of nitrogen and carbon. Both are

dissolved in water. The mold can grow on the inside of hose and in reservoir

that hold water in the washing machine. Therefore, you may have both mold and

bacteria.

> > Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

>

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I regularly run vinegar and backing soda to clean the machine. The hoses should

be replaced every so often because the can weaken and rupture leaving a watery

mess.

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Replacing the hose as a first step sounds like a good idea. I think I'll

replace the hose on my washer too. Sometimes it smells but I think it is

stagnant water if not used in awhile but may be dirty inside after years.

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Is this a front-loading machine? Because the way those operate, they tend to

retain a little bit of water in the door and the basket. Mine even had water in

the dispensing cup, so I always emptied that. The way I kept the whole machine

nice and fresh was to run vinegar with my clothes and keep the door open, as you

do. The vinegar did the trick as far as any musty smell and I think the vinegar

has antimicrobial properties. Also, I had an exhaust fan in my laundry room that

I ran when I ran the wash machine to keep the whole area dry, so that any

remaining water would evaporate. I wouldn't despair. Try vinegar and try keeping

the whole room dry (reduce humidification). That should help a lot.

From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...>

Subject: [] Re: Moldy washing machine

Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 2:53 PM

So, with all due respect, you're telling me I'm defeated by my washer? I

need some practical advice-from what you're saying it seems I should replace the

hose (great idea!) and what else? 

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I had the dreaded Maytag frontloader. They replaced the door seal/gasket on

mine and told me to leave door open and I wash with always baking soda, ammonia

and occasionally put vinegar in it. Worked except that hose does seem to smell

if I have not recently done a wash. Never thought to have it replaced. It's

constant vigilance to keep house safe from water, more than I would have though

prior to getting sick. Water not only ruins the house but yourself.

>

> Is this a front-loading machine? Because the way those operate, they tend to

retain a little bit of water in the door and the basket. Mine even had water in

the dispensing cup, so I always emptied that. The way I kept the whole machine

nice and fresh was to run vinegar with my clothes and keep the door open, as you

do. The vinegar did the trick as far as any musty smell and I think the vinegar

has antimicrobial properties. Also, I had an exhaust fan in my laundry room that

I ran when I ran the wash machine to keep the whole area dry, so that any

remaining water would evaporate. I wouldn't despair. Try vinegar and try keeping

the whole room dry (reduce humidification). That should help a lot.

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I have a top loader. I called Maytag and the woman said she heard of one other

person who needed to take out the tub every 6 months and clean away the lint.

Well, that's ridiculous!

I have run through washes with everything-vinegar, borax, bleach, peroxide,

baking soda. Nothing is working so I assume the lint is somewhere the water

can't reach anymore? The room is dry as a bone. I leave the top open all the

time.

I have really bad luck with mold-it's always somewhere difficult and expensive

and never where it can be eliminated easily. In the end I'm going to need a new

one-and the terrible thing about this is, the longer I wait the more I'm exposed

and even this tiny little spot that doesn't really smell is going to end up

making me all kinds of sick.

>

> Is this a front-loading machine? Because the way those operate, they tend to

retain a little bit of water in the door and the basket. Mine even had water in

the dispensing cup, so I always emptied that. The way I kept the whole machine

nice and fresh was to run vinegar with my clothes and keep the door open, as you

do. The vinegar did the trick as far as any musty smell and I think the vinegar

has antimicrobial properties. Also, I had an exhaust fan in my laundry room that

I ran when I ran the wash machine to keep the whole area dry, so that any

remaining water would evaporate. I wouldn't despair. Try vinegar and try keeping

the whole room dry (reduce humidification). That should help a lot.

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Is it a Maytag fron loader. They had a long class action suit against them for

moldy washere, of wich I missed filing for by a couple of months. Gave my washer

to a family who lived in a shack and they put it in the living room. My advice

is call the company consumer services line. They used to have a fix kit for the

moldy washers.

>

> So, with all due respect, you're telling me I'm defeated by my washer? I need

some practical advice-from what you're saying it seems I should replace the hose

(great idea!) and what else? Dump the machine and hope for the best next time?

Can it be cleaned?

> It never happened before-I've had washers for 35 years-is it the brand? I have

a Maytag. Anyone have issues with a Maytag? Aaargh, I'm so frustrated!

> Surella

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I had one of these Maytags and got the fix kit. Actually they came out and

fixed it, put a new rubber gasket in it that drains well. Basically it was the

gasket that held water in it.

> >

> > So, with all due respect, you're telling me I'm defeated by my washer? I

need some practical advice-from what you're saying it seems I should replace the

hose (great idea!) and what else? Dump the machine and hope for the best next

time? Can it be cleaned?

> > It never happened before-I've had washers for 35 years-is it the brand? I

have a Maytag. Anyone have issues with a Maytag? Aaargh, I'm so frustrated!

> > Surella

>

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What do you wash with?  I use borax, GSE, baking soda, vinager, HP, and some

Ecover soap.  Not all at once. But this is what I use.

 

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...>

Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:53:58 AM

Subject: [] Re: Moldy washing machine

 

So, with all due respect, you're telling me I'm defeated by my washer? I need

some practical advice-from what you're saying it seems I should replace the hose

(great idea!) and what else? Dump the machine and hope for the best next time?

Can it be cleaned?

It never happened before-I've had washers for 35 years-is it the brand? I have a

Maytag. Anyone have issues with a Maytag? Aaargh, I'm so frustrated!

Surella

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