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How much DMSA and how often?

Mandi x

But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after 6 weeks.

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Dear mandy,

He has suggested three times a day for three days and minerals for three days

and continue for 3 months.

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Jabi

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> How much DMSA and how often?

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> Mandi x

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> In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@...

> writes:

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> But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr.

> Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest

> issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after

> 6 weeks.

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Well thats not an efficient protocol, how many mgs per dose?

The proper way do do it would be vits and minerals EVRY day, never stop, starting dose of 5mg, every 4 hours, day and night for at least 64 but preferably 72 hours, have at least as many days off as on and continue for 2 years.

3 months of chelation is not going to help, especially done in an ineffcient manner.

However, now you have started chelation will happen regardless of whether you give chelators for approximately 2 years, the point of chelation is to make the person comfortable during this detox (starts first time you give chelator). I didn't understand this until last year, and I suspect most people including those doing the Cutler protocol and everything right don't either, I started and stopped on myself, the fallout was the worst time of my life and I would not wish that on anyone let alone a non verbal child

Never trust anybody on anything, research yourself, he knows this protocol but I will remind him in my own special way when we see him next week, shame he never made the Andy Cutler lecture when we brought him over last summer and he does so many good things it really really irritates me that he choses to get this so very wrong, full moon rant over

Mx

Dear mandy,He has suggested three times a day for three days and minerals for three days and continue for 3 months.RegardsJabi>> How much DMSA and how often? > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@... > writes:> > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after > 6 weeks.>

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I can't remember the mg. he just suggested 3 pills per day. I didn't know even

the 4 hours day and night we did only during day.

We are seeing him next week. What sort of vitamins?

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> > How much DMSA and how often?

> >

> > Mandi x

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> > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@

> > writes:

> >

> > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year.

> Dr.

> > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the

> biggest

> > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped

> after

> > 6 weeks.

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Hi JabiMy son had a big problem with speech, and since he started ABA school he has improved so much! Not only speech but also in other areas he is more social than ever been,behavior spot on and speech everyday improving! He became very high functioning in the last 2 years, since i,ve started de diet and biomedical but speech was he's biggest issue people couldn't understand him.Good luck with your soo!Hope that helps.FernandaTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: jas1s@...Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 19:46:40 +0000Subject: Chelation and Speech

Hello all,

I am new to the group, but not new to biomedical. We have tried biomedical when my son was diagonised ASD at 3 years, we did for 1 year, we didnt see any huge gains, but after doing biomedical he has solid stools.

I was in India for last 1 year for his treatment. There he had intensive OT and ST. He made great progress in some areas like

Gross Motor- and fine motor he has improved a lot he is almost for his age level.

But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after 6 weeks.

Now I am thinking of addding something to his diet.

He is very healthy, no sleep problem, no OCD,no eczema, no stool issues or eating problem. He is not on any diet, we have tried diet for a year.He has some sensory issues still. But hyper activity also reduced.

Now his behaviour also improved and his ATEC score which was 110 when we were started now is around 50 to 55 range.

He is 5 years old now and goes to a Special school , where they use PECS only. My son doesnt like it he always refuse to use it.

He imitates some sounds, and some words.

I am really working hard to find anything that to bring his speech.

(also from India he had fresh Brahmi leaves with Vacha every morning) I also learnt accupressure and Reiki, I think it all has helped him.

Now he doesn't have crying episode or tantrums, I can take him out for shopping and all.

Now his biggest problem is speech? If we do chelation is it going to help him?

We are also seeing a Homeopath doing CEASE Therapy.

Sorry long mail, but really getting worried about the speech.

Regards

Jabi

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Mandi,

I started DMSA yesterday again, for the kids and myself because we all stopped

together. We all have very low energy for a while and I was wondering what that

could be.

I have the Z-Natural from you, should I do it in between the rounds? I also have

Bentonite clay which I was going to use for baths every week before the round.

We have been also doing the iodine protocol (iodoral+ vitB's +C +salt) and that

is helping a bit. I we take ubiquinol and adrenal support (but we started this

recently, so I didn't notice anything yet).I hope that's enough just now. I am

planning to see Lucinda soon, but have to save a bit for the trip.

As for Andy's books I wonder if the info is similar in both of them.

Kasia

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> > > > How much DMSA and how often?

> > > >

> > > > Mandi x

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> > > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@

> > > > writes:

> > > >

> > > > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last

> year.

> > > Dr.

> > > > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the

> > > biggest

> > > > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have

> stopped

> > > after

> > > > 6 weeks.

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Adrenal support can take a while to kick in if they are very exhausted so stick with it. The salt loading helped me A LOT, so fingers crossed on that one, I never used clay because my house is extended in 2 direction and covers up drains and I worry about digging up floors if they get blocked. Z-Natural low dose every day I would do, that's because I forget if I do on certain days, Lucinda has seen good results with it, The books are heavy reading, I have a lending copy of both and they are both here at present so might be an idea to browse them and see whats useful, mail me at MM about that.

DMSA alone made Sam pale and a bit tired, he was great on DMSA/ALA combo. First couple of rounds might be a hairy after a break, lots of Vit C and Magnesium usually helps

Take care

Mx

PS The zeolites can kick up yeast also when you start

Mandi,I started DMSA yesterday again, for the kids and myself because we all stopped together. We all have very low energy for a while and I was wondering what that could be.I have the Z-Natural from you, should I do it in between the rounds? I also have Bentonite clay which I was going to use for baths every week before the round. We have been also doing the iodine protocol (iodoral+ vitB's +C +salt) and that is helping a bit. I we take ubiquinol and adrenal support (but we started this recently, so I didn't notice anything yet).I hope that's enough just now. I am planning to see Lucinda soon, but have to save a bit for the trip.As for Andy's books I wonder if the info is similar in both of them.Kasia> > > >> > > > How much DMSA and how often? > > > > > > > > Mandi x> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@ > > > > writes:> > > > > > > > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last > year. > > > Dr. > > > > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the > > > biggest > > > > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have > stopped > > > after > > > > 6 weeks.> > > >> > >> >>

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Thank you Mandi, that is very useful.

Kasia

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> > > > > How much DMSA and how often?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mandi x

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> > > > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@

> > > > > writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last

> > year.

> > > > Dr.

> > > > > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the

> > > > biggest

> > > > > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have

> > stopped

> > > > after

> > > > > 6 weeks.

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