Re: two people who lived in finished basements. so far, both got very sick

[Guest guest]

That is very sad, she should listen to you. The problem with carpet in basements

is that it is often done the wrong way and moisture can get underneath the

carpet and it looks " okay " to the eye. Years before I got sick from mold, I

rented a basement apt. in Boston and got sick immediately and I was young and

healthy then. Maybe send her some information from the group here that she could

read and share with her Father. D

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> I have two people who have gotten sick living in finished basements. The only

two people I know who lived in finished basements. One I mentioned here a year

ago or so, lost his mind. At the same time, his mother who he was living with

temporarily and who lived upstairs, went in to a nursing home at same time he

did, mother and son from this neat, clean looking little home she had bought

about 5 years before that but had a completely finished basement, fully

carpeted. Now a good friend of mine from school who is temporarily staying in

someone's finished basement has gotten very sick and her doctor told her if her

fever stays up to go to hospital. I mentioned to her finished basement issue

but lightly as I don't have ANY information on anything, just simply that it is

finished, carpeted basement and she hardly ever gets sick. I just got news

today on how sick she is. She had signs of an infection and doctor put her on

Bactrim and prednisone. Now she is REALLY sick and running a fever. (i.e. so

probably fungal infection as prednisone makes fungal infections worse), but I

doubt she will listen to me. Her father was a doctor (and I was an art major)

and she's a total believer that they know what they are doing.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane, and the person who owns the townhouse she is staying in basement

of, is in a recovery mode from something to do with her spinal cord. My friend

has stayed there for months while her friend is recovering from this other

ailment which I wonder about. I've asked her about it but it is so hard to

explained to people how many problems can develope from mold exposure and to

other people you seem to be making huge leaps to conclusions without knowing

much about their ailment. I sent her an email asking how she is doing and

haven't heard back yet but she was running a fever this a.m., and it's just that

time of year here that everything is so WET!, esp when youre talking

foundations. Actually she is taking care of place while her friend is out of it

for extended period due to illness herself. I mentioned Jeff May's book

mentioning finished basements that can be a problem when she started having

allergy trouble a couple months ago when spring started but then this spring had

one of the highest pollen counts here on record so couldn't tell if it was

outdoors or indoors. However I have allergies and didn't suffer. I think

because I have made changes to my home, including excellent filter and leave

windows closed etc so was not affected by the high count. Suggested she try to

see if furnace at her friends' could take a higher MERV filter. I'm pretty sure

she didn't do that either. Now she is really very sick. She probably asked her

doctor and you know what most doctors think of mold causing illness, and how

reliable their information is. I did suggest today that she try to think back

and try to remember if she started to feel worse when she started the

prednisone, because that would mean a fungal infection. I would never take

prednisone for anything.

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> That is very sad, she should listen to you. The problem with carpet in

basements is that it is often done the wrong way and moisture can get underneath

the carpet and it looks " okay " to the eye. Years before I got sick from mold, I

rented a basement apt. in Boston and got sick immediately and I was young and

healthy then. Maybe send her some information from the group here that she could

read and share with her Father. D

>

[Guest guest]

can cortisol make you worse if you have a " fungal infection " - I live in a damp

moldy garage- will be moving soon. but my symptoms sound alot like your friend

that lives in the basement. I have been sick for the 10 years I have been

here- I wonder if I will get better when I leave?

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> Thanks Diane, and the person who owns the townhouse she is staying in basement

of, is in a recovery mode from something to do with her spinal cord. My friend

has stayed there for months while her friend is recovering from this other

ailment which I wonder about. I've asked her about it but it is so hard to

explained to people how many problems can develope from mold exposure and to

other people you seem to be making huge leaps to conclusions without knowing

much about their ailment. I sent her an email asking how she is doing and

haven't heard back yet but she was running a fever this a.m., and it's just that

time of year here that everything is so WET!, esp when youre talking

foundations. Actually she is taking care of place while her friend is out of it

for extended period due to illness herself.

[Guest guest]

I believe that steroids are not the best choice for mold-exposed people,

but I am not a doctor. What I do know is that Dr. Gray, the

Benson, AZ mold specialist prescribed nebulized chromalyn sodium instead

of inhaled steroids to help cut lung inflammation....

sue v

>can cortisol make you worse if you have a " fungal infection " - I live in

>a damp moldy garage- will be moving soon. but my symptoms sound alot

>like your friend that lives in the basement. I have been sick for the

>10 years I have been here- I wonder if I will get better when I leave?

>

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>> Thanks Diane, and the person who owns the townhouse she is staying in

>basement of, is in a recovery mode from something to do with her spinal

>cord. My friend has stayed there for months while her friend is

>recovering from this other ailment which I wonder about. I've asked her

>about it but it is so hard to explained to people how many problems can

>develope from mold exposure and to other people you seem to be making

>huge leaps to conclusions without knowing much about their ailment. I

>sent her an email asking how she is doing and haven't heard back yet but

>she was running a fever this a.m., and it's just that time of year here

>that everything is so WET!, esp when youre talking foundations.

>Actually she is taking care of place while her friend is out of it for

>extended period due to illness herself.

[Guest guest]

I really don't understand steroid or corticosteriods myself. I just remember

reading multiple times that prednisone and medicines like prednisone are like

throwing gas on a fire if you are sick from mold exposure. I don't know why. I

have read that mold cell is very similar to humand cell so perhaps when you take

steriods it is like putting the mold cells on steriods also.

Drug info on Predisone says that it can make fungal infections worse so drug

manufacturer knows this. It's just that fungal infection is hardly ever

diagnosed as systemic infection unless you have cancer or AIDS.

My friend could be living in water or moisture damaged environment and the fact

that after she started on prednisone she got MUCH worse, convinces me all the

more but she is STILL taking it, and still running a fever and still in bed in

the finished basement. I've said what I can but I get very little back from

her.

If it were me, I would try going one day without prednisone to see how I feel,

but then I have little confidence in doctors, based on vast amounts of

experience, mostly bad, with not only my own health but other family members. I

at least try my own theories out or test theories that are different than

theirs, often quite successfully.

I don't try to convince others though but I gave her what information I had but

it was like talking to myself. I would feel guilty if I didn't at least try but

I drop it when I see it's not going anywhere which so far is 100% of time I've

brought it up with people.

As for myself, I would never take prednisone for anything. Almost everyone I

know who has ever take prednisone has felt worse than before.

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> can cortisol make you worse if you have a " fungal infection " - I live in a

damp moldy garage- will be moving soon. but my symptoms sound alot like your

friend that lives in the basement. I have been sick for the 10 years I have

been here- I wonder if I will get better when I leave?

[Guest guest]

The reason steroids are not recommended for fungal infections is that they

compromise the immmune system..and that is why the infection often will get

worse when prescribed. D

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> > can cortisol make you worse if you have a " fungal infection " - I live in a

damp moldy garage- will be moving soon. but my symptoms sound alot like your

friend that lives in the basement. I have been sick for the 10 years I have

been here- I wonder if I will get better when I leave?

>

[Guest guest]

must be other reasons too, it was like adding fire when I sprayed steroid nasal

spray up in my sinuses, it set my nerves on fire, my whole face burned. it must

cause some overaction of something, possably a histamine reaction and with nerve

damage, not a good thing. this was a intence reaction to steroids.

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> > I really don't understand steroid or corticosteriods myself. I just

remember reading multiple times that prednisone and medicines

[Guest guest]

you know, I think maybe the reason some fell this illness is more immune related

than nerve damage related is because of the difference in peoples exposures, it

is both. my nerve damage is bad enough that I fell the nerve damage is just as

major or more so than the immune system. and the nasal/nerve/brain route play a

major role.

but I can see how others could not see it even though the same routes are

involved for them because some seem to suffer less effects through this route.

but it is both.

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> > > I really don't understand steroid or corticosteriods myself. I just

remember reading multiple times that prednisone and medicines

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[Guest guest]

really weird cuz nasal spray was killing my nose now i got something for my head

not sure if i should use and breathing machine helps kep the mold balls out of

my lungs

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> > > can cortisol make you worse if you have a " fungal infection " - I live in a

damp moldy garage- will be moving soon. but my symptoms sound alot like your

friend that lives in the basement. I have been sick for the 10 years I have

been here- I wonder if I will get better when I leave?

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