Re: Outdoor mould lifespan

[Guest guest]

Centuries. Millenia. There is always mold everywhere. There is

no " nowhere " in " everywhere. " Everywhere means " every where. "

Absence of mold, dried up mold, and dead mold compose one of

the most common myths about mold. Alive or dead, intact or

fragmented it can cause all the same health complaints except

infection.

What dampness can and will do is to increase the population and

size of mold colonies. Therefore, when those colonies create

spores (seeds - imagine dandalion fluff) there will be more spores

than if the location remained dry.

Outdoors, however, the wind can blow them to other locations

and the spores/fragments can degrade in UV and other harsh

conditions. Indoors, however, mold from the ancient Sphinx has

been cultured, meaning it was dormant but still viable.

I realize this does not answer your question about when will you

be able to leave the house. What I'm suggesting is that if you still

have problems when you leave the house you might be reacting

to the mold AND something else or to something else. The good

news is if indoors is better than outdoors. That means you have a

comparatively safe house, which many people don't have.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Ok so im sure theres no difinitive answers and it depends on the type of

mold etc etc. Its been raining for months, almost all spring here, its

normally a dry place so its thankfully starting to dry up now. Anyone

have any idea of how long it would take most of the god forsaken outdoor

mould to dry up in about 30c weather, are we talking weeks, months?

Wld really like to be able to leave the house!!

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[Guest guest]

Yes mould is everywhere but if its been raining for three months and we will now

have two or three months of mostly dry.. About 5 days rain a month im trying to

be hopeful that it will dissipate enough that i can go outside?? I suppose we

need wind which there is really not much of. I feel so hopeless. Im not reacting

to something else since it is near the large colonoes of moss etc that i get

biggest reactions, but even in a large patch of dirt when the wind picks up i

get reactions. I get reactions inside as well since people bring it in with

them. I feel like giving up. With mcs havnt been able to find another location

to live and there is mould on window sills throughout this house. I have to hope

to god that the uv degrades things quickly?? Im close to losing it.

>

> Centuries. Millenia. There is always mold everywhere. There is

> no " nowhere " in " everywhere. " Everywhere means " every where. "

>

> Absence of mold, dried up mold, and dead mold compose one of

> the most common myths about mold. Alive or dead, intact or

> fragmented it can cause all the same health complaints except

> infection.

>

> What dampness can and will do is to increase the population and

> size of mold colonies. Therefore, when those colonies create

> spores (seeds - imagine dandalion fluff) there will be more spores

> than if the location remained dry.

>

> Outdoors, however, the wind can blow them to other locations

> and the spores/fragments can degrade in UV and other harsh

> conditions. Indoors, however, mold from the ancient Sphinx has

> been cultured, meaning it was dormant but still viable.

>

> I realize this does not answer your question about when will you

> be able to leave the house. What I'm suggesting is that if you still

> have problems when you leave the house you might be reacting

> to the mold AND something else or to something else. The good

> news is if indoors is better than outdoors. That means you have a

> comparatively safe house, which many people don't have.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where do you live? Do you live in a valley where there is no circulating air or

heavy with trees, etc? I've heard that fall is moldier than rest of year bec

mold has been able to build all summer and and as temperatures drop, relative

humidity goes up and mold is at it's happiest. Hope for a freeze. Maybe you

need hilltop living or away from heavy shade trees. Mold on window frames is

not a good sign.

>

> Yes mould is everywhere but if its been raining for three months and we will

now have two or three months of mostly dry..

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Yes mould is everywhere but if its been raining for three months and we will

now have two or three months of mostly dry..

>

There are a lot of tress here but its actually spring not fall. Im quite

concerned about this level of sensitivity, im reacting to slightly moldy vegies

that people here are cooking with and seemingly teabags?? What the?? I know tea

bags get mody but you would think thats only a problem if you actually drink the

tea. No wonder people think im nuts. I have to hope that when i can get away

from chemicald this hyperactivity will recede? I have pretty bad mcs too

[Guest guest]

Maybe you are reacting to something else on the veggies, like pesticide, also

pesticide sprayed in area possibly. I would look at other things because a

little mold on veggies is not much and will be every place. Veggies are only

not moldy when first picked and even then sometimes they have mold on them

before picked.

>

> >

> > Where do you live? Do you live in a valley where there is no circulating

air or heavy with trees, etc? I've heard that fall is moldier than rest of year

bec mold has been able to build all summer and and as temperatures drop,

relative humidity goes up and mold is at it's happiest. Hope for a freeze.

Maybe you need hilltop living or away from heavy shade trees. Mold on window

frames is not a good sign.

> >

There are a lot of tress here but its actually spring not fall. Im quite

concerned about this level of sensitivity, im reacting to slightly moldy vegies

that people here are cooking with and seemingly teabags?? What the?? I know tea

bags get mody but you would think thats only a problem if you actually drink the

tea. No wonder people think im nuts. I have to hope that when i can get away

from chemicald this hyperactivity will recede? I have pretty bad mcs too

[Guest guest]

Yes people can react to tea, try white tea, it is mold free. If you can get

yourself to a pristine environment, you will begin to de-tox and your reactivity

will back off. If you stay someplace where you are continuing to constantly

react, your body does not have a chance to " clear " Find someplace safe. You are

wasting time.

> > >

> > > Yes mould is everywhere but if its been raining for three months and we

will now have two or three months of mostly dry..

> >

> There are a lot of tress here but its actually spring not fall. Im quite

concerned about this level of sensitivity, im reacting to slightly moldy vegies

that people here are cooking with and seemingly teabags?? What the?? I know tea

bags get mody but you would think thats only a problem if you actually drink the

tea. No wonder people think im nuts. I have to hope that when i can get away

from chemicald this hyperactivity will recede? I have pretty bad mcs too

>

[Guest guest]

Ive been wondering about this.. its been raining here and then a day of overcast

I thought I was gogin insane. I wanted to fly out of here to a sunny place. It

felt like icky stuff was hanging and stuck in the air.

Huge depression at the same time though I also entered a sick WDB (library) with

obvious growing mold and ongoing longstanding water issues as per library staff.

I dont know which end is up but this makes sense.. and I am smelling everyting

and its driving me insane on top of that.

Robin

> > >

> > > Yes mould is everywhere but if its been raining for three months and we

will now have two or three months of mostly dry..

> >

> There are a lot of tress here but its actually spring not fall. Im quite

concerned about this level of sensitivity, im reacting to slightly moldy vegies

that people here are cooking with and seemingly teabags?? What the?? I know tea

bags get mody but you would think thats only a problem if you actually drink the

tea. No wonder people think im nuts. I have to hope that when i can get away

from chemicald this hyperactivity will recede? I have pretty bad mcs too

>

[Guest guest]

I dont know about how they effect, but I started smelling the mold " growing " on

veges and fruits recently as I hope part of unmasking and not symptoms getting

worse.. I could smell them in Hole Foods and in my fridge after I purchased

them.

Robin

>

> Maybe you are reacting to something else on the veggies, like pesticide, also

pesticide sprayed in area possibly. I would look at other things because a

little mold on veggies is not much and will be every place. Veggies are only

not moldy when first picked and even then sometimes they have mold on them

before picked.

>

[Guest guest]

The question is... how much time in one location.. you have to give the body a

chance to detox. That has to take some time.

In mold home.. not as sensitive.. here.. bam.. sensitivties up.. unmasking..

possibly dumping metals now as well.. that takes time.

I would think that hyperreaction is a potential good sign up until a point..

when do you start shopping around for an even better place since it seems the

place you are in is better than the place you were or you would not be unmasking

and detoxing.

Robin

>

> Yes people can react to tea, try white tea, it is mold free. If you can get

yourself to a pristine environment, you will begin to de-tox and your reactivity

will back off. If you stay someplace where you are continuing to constantly

react, your body does not have a chance to " clear " Find someplace safe. You are

wasting time.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I still smell it sooooo easy and Ive been out of my sick work bldg for 5

years

In a message dated 11/25/2010 7:35:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

listspub@... writes:

Ive been wondering about this.. its been raining here and then a day of

overcast I thought I was gogin insane. I wanted to fly out of here to a sunny

place. It felt like icky stuff was hanging and stuck in the air.

Huge depression at the same time though I also entered a sick WDB

(library) with obvious growing mold and ongoing longstanding water issues as

per

library staff.

I dont know which end is up but this makes sense.. and I am smelling

everyting and its driving me insane on top of that.

Robin

[Guest guest]

That might just be an earthy smell. Afterall, they are picked from the ground.

I wouldn't worry about that. Not the same as mold growing inside a home where

there is a concentration of a few different species and they are putting out

toxins that cannot escape the house....and of course the related bacteria.

Every time I mention mold I know there is other filth incidentally. It's just

too hard to write it each time.

>

> I dont know about how they effect, but I started smelling the mold " growing "

on veges and fruits recently as I hope part of unmasking and not symptoms

getting worse.. I could smell them in Hole Foods and in my fridge after I

purchased them.

>

> Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Has your reactivity gone down?

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[Guest guest]

Yes have been looking almost dull time for 4 weeks, my mcs and lack of funds

makes it real hard. Only other option right now is to stay at another friends

whos reasonably chem free but he lives near an electricity substation. Not sure

whats worse, that or mould and chemicals,.

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