Re: youtube video: Toxic Black Mold Syndrome

June 30, 2010

I just dont like it when someone puts this all off on genetics,I just dont

believe that. to me there is a big difference in the dose it might take with

someone with these bad HLA's to get sick and what a very contaminated WDB

exposure can do. there is a difference in getting a dose that your body cant

deal with because of genetics and getting a dose that just distroys your mucus

lineings and causes severe,basicly all organ damage. yes, I have one of these

bad HLA genes, yes it probably played a role in why I had pretty immeditae

illness in my first home when the mold problem first started after the roof

started leaking,

but in my second home exposure I dont see where genetics even had a chance to

come into play. it was exposure to a high amount, it distroyed my protective

lineings in my nose,airways,stomach,ect.

my pee turned green, I passed globs of multicolored (what looked like

afterbirth). theres just a difference here and I think it should be reconized.

it's not all about genetics.

I think every disease has been blamed on genetics at one point,

now we are learning that environment plays a role in many of these diseases.

and damn, this is a environmental diseases!

now we can talk about diseases and genetics and the small role that environment

might play is disease,

or we can talk about high dose toxin exposure and what damage that does to your

system.

2 different stories.

anybody getting my point?

now,I have nothing against Shoemaker, he's done great work.

but not all WDB exposures are the same, not all are low to moderate dose where

genetics play a role, some are just plain high dose,tear

you apart,toxin exposures that do alot of physical damage to your insides and

leave you with more to deal with than the norm.

some of them kill, thats not genetics at work, thats the toxin overload,

thats the shuting down of major organs, that a dose that makes genetics

unimportant and you better hope and pray your organs get through it and hang in

there.

and heres the problem that I see, you limit these exposures to genetics and you

limit your knowledge on just what can happen in the way of physical damage to

multiple organs and just how much damage can accure.

you limit yourself into not seeing beyound the immune system.

there is a point wear genetics no longer matter with these exposures,

this is about other bodily functions doing their jobs, this is about the mucus

system not being able to keep up, this is about protective lineings getting

distroyed, this is about liver,kidney and bladder disfunction because of

overload, this is the physical damage side that

really makes genetics take a back seat here.

and I have read enough on this to know that there is a point where it's not

about genetics anymore and is about a overdose of toxins that do major organ

damage. when I say my second home literally tore my insides up, thats what I

mean, no amount of great genetics could have stopped

that, I'd would had to of just been one big ball of snot to catch all that I

breathed in and passed it safely with no damage accureing.

forget about the immune system and genetics for a minute and consider atual

toxin contact to your inside lineings, if you dont think that can do some major

damage in high dose situations,your wrong, once it gets to much for the mucus

system to handle,physical damage accures,and if you know how even the mucus

system can be damaged and what can happen by the nasal route you can see how

this can play out.

there was nothing genetic about the raw burning effects to my nose,in my

sinuses,stomach,gi tract,ect. and this did lead to miningitis and brain swelling

and CSF leaks that caused more burning along these routes. for years afterward

everytime I got around a chemical not only did I have chemical reaction but my

liver would start hurting in the same exact spot,everytime.

just like brain fog is for beginners,so to say,

you could also say that bad HLA genes is also for beginners.

because at the right dose it just goes beyond this.

sorry but I have a problem with diseases always getting blamed on genetics,

exspecially a environmental disease!

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> Toxic Black Mold Syndrome

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> does anyone know about Dr. Vaughan or where she is located?

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June 30, 2010

Jeanine,

You always make a lot of sense to me. I think there is a genetic

component to this that causes some to be more susceptable - along with the state

of

one's immune system. Like babies are found to be susceptible because their

immune systems are developed; or someone who has just had some sort of

surgery and a big ole wound would be more likely to get this stuff in their

system if exposed. I think where the genetic component really comes into play

is that there are those who can't rid their body of the toxins as easily

as others can.

But as the saying goes, " dose makes the poison " . And it seems to me that

at some point - I don't care whose your daddy - too much of this stuff will

make you seriously sick. I don't think they weaponized tricothocenes with

the intent of harming 25 percent of a military populations. I think that is

a dose meant to harm everyone.

Sharon

In a message dated 6/30/2010 4:09:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

I just dont like it when someone puts this all off on genetics,I just dont

believe that. to me there is

June 30, 2010

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> Toxic Black Mold Syndrome

>

> does anyone know about Dr. Vaughan or where she is located?

>

I posted this just to let people see that this is at the very least being talked

about on main stream media in some areas because here in CA. they still won't

accept that mold even makes you sick, except for a few allergies or maybe some

asthma symptoms.... at least some of the info. about toxic mold was able to get

out to the masses and they only gave the Dr. a 5min segment... I think she was

trying to squeeze in a lot of info. in a short amount of time... as far as the

genetic component, everyone has a different susceptibility to different things

based on who they are, which they call genetics but that's not the main point;

the main point is toxic mold can make people very sick no matter who they might

be but no one knows how sick until they get exposed

June 30, 2010

I dont like it because it is so limiting and I wouldn't go to this doctor after

seeing this. if her knowledge goes deeper she should of let it be known. the

last thing we need is for this disease to become all about takeing a few genetic

tests.

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> > Toxic Black Mold Syndrome

> >

> > does anyone know about Dr. Vaughan or where she is located?

> >

>

> I posted this just to let people see that this is at the very least being

talked about on main stream media in some areas because here in CA. they still

won't accept that mold even makes you sick, except for a few allergies or maybe

some asthma symptoms.... at least some of the info. about toxic mold was able to

get out to the masses and they only gave the Dr. a 5min segment... I think she

was trying to squeeze in a lot of info. in a short amount of time... as far as

the genetic component, everyone has a different susceptibility to different

things based on who they are, which they call genetics but that's not the main

point; the main point is toxic mold can make people very sick no matter who they

might be but no one knows how sick until they get exposed

>

July 1, 2010

good point Sharon, Thanks.

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> Jeanine,

>

> You always make a lot of sense to me. I think there is a genetic

> component to this that causes some to be more susceptable - along with the

state of

> one's immune system. Like babies are found to be susceptible because their

> immune systems are developed; or someone who has just had some sort of

> surgery and a big ole wound would be more likely to get this stuff in their

> system if exposed. I think where the genetic component really comes into

play

> is that there are those who can't rid their body of the toxins as easily

> as others can.

>

July 1, 2010

I think the video was great. While there, look at the other videos on the

menu. One is Ritchie Shoemaker. He mentions that 24% of the population that has

a gene making them more susceptible to severe effects. I don't think anyone can

deny that genetics plays some part in how any given person will react to a

particular situation. But we must also remember that excess humidity will breed

enough bioaerosol that almost anyone will eventually develop some type of

problem given sufficient exposure time. Building maintenance is essential for

occupant health.

Re: youtube video: Toxic Black Mold Syndrome

Posted by: " gsgrl2000 " gsgrl2000@... gsgrl2000

Date: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:38 pm ((PDT))

Toxic Black Mold Syndrome

does anyone know about Dr. Vaughan or where she is located?

I posted this just to let people see that this is at the very least being