Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Hi Group- The recent postings on this topic have given me an incentive to get off my butt and share my experience on finding an air cleaner that I can tolerate and also works for my particular required filtration situation. I am beyond thrilled to report in the over 10 years that I have been sick with MCS and more than 16 air cleaners that I have bought and returned including the tops names like IQ, AllerAir, Austin, etc.....I have FINALLY found an air cleaner that I can tolerate, which is a miracle due to the severity of my MCS. My downside experience with brands I've tried: Loaded with plastics, foams, glues, HEPA, location of the motor, lack of variable speed control, lack of carbon options, chemicals used on motor/outer cabinet/filters. My upside experience with brands I've tried: Technical expertise in effective chemical filtration, recommendations by key environmental experts like Rea/Patel//Leiberman, manufacturer cleanroom offgassing program for customers w/MCS (Austin Air has one). Current situation: This summer I had windows installed in my home and in spite of tons of environmental precautions, I now have some chemical issues with the interior environment of my home. Nothing that time won't resolve but in the meantime, needed some air quality options fast. Had IAQ experts evaluate my home, had a bunch of options and the bottom line best option to get me through this winter was effective air filtration. Ugh..oh no. Here we go again trying to find an air cleaner I can tolerate. Combined with all the cleaners from past years and now adding an IQ Air and also an Austin that I bought/returned this past fall....I tripped upon a company called AirPura. http://www.airpura.com/index.html Ton of phone calls, liked what I was hearing, had the key features I wanted, many options ideal for someone w/MCS. So, I narrowed it down to their model C600 and also the C600DLX. Positive highlights on their C600 and C600DLX models for me: No HEPA Poly or Cotton prefilters HEPA like barrier filter and post filter All metal carbon canister and ends Carbon canister available in glued and non-glued Glued canister uses AFM sealant Non-glued canister has screwed ends and can be refilled Benign felt gasket Motor is truly a post filtration location 360 degree mesh intake (like Austin Air design) 360 degree air outflow 18 or 26 lb carbon canisters 3 " deep. 26lb carbon canister Variable speed motor Powerful 560CFM capacity motor Effective up to 2000 sf Baked exterior cabinet No poly, no plastics, no treated filters or gaskets Biggest difference between C600 vs C600DLX: Model C600 has prefilter, coconut shell carbon with sandwiched carbon filters, post filter. Model C600DLX is same design but has coconut shell impregnated w/potassium alumina. This machine was developed for the toxic Chinese drywall folks down south thus the impregnated media to capture the formaldehyde. Test run of both machines: So I ordered both machines. With these two machine being totally equal except one has impregnated carbon and the other does not...I did a side by side comparison. Since AirPura machines don't have a lot of the toxic stuff like other machines do, this test allowed me to finally do a comparable test to narrow down what the heck really bothers me the most about these air cleaners. Other than the obvious suspects like the plastics and foams, I have always suspected HEPA bother me in addition to the carbon. Well now I had two machines with no HEPA, no plastics, no foams..so it pretty much gave me a rare opportunity to see if it's the different types of carbon media. And because of this side by side test, I now finally know for sure. I put the coconut shell carbon C600 in one room and the C600DLX w/impregnated carbon in another room. Within 24 hours and like many MCS people, I too found that there was no doubt that the impregnated carbon bothers me. The plain coconut shell a little, but not too bad. Sooo then I expanded my test to the speed settings on the variable speed motor. I played around with lowering the motor speed and found that " sweet spot " on the coconut shell machine that not only did the machine no longer bother me at all BUT it also was still effective with removing the chemical problem I have in my home. I could never find that " sweet spot " on the DLX model so with the machines being equivalent except for the impregnated carbon...now I know the impregnated carbon does bother me. So my test conclusion is that between no HEPA, coconut shell carbon and the variable speed motor...I think all are contributing to my tolerance of this C600 machine. I already bought a 2nd machine and hope to scrounge up enough $$ to buy a 3rd machine at the end of this month. The 1st machine is in my bedroom and is on the very lowest setting, is very quiet and keeping up well w/the chemicals. The 2nd machine is amazing as it's keeping up with a lr/droom combo that has a cathedral ceiling and is where 8 of the windows are located. That machine is a little under the 1/2 way setting on the variable speed motor and is keeping up extremely well with the offgassing chemicals. This impresses me considering it is not an enclosed room and is managing the cathedral air space. Once again, I have found that " sweet spot " where it is just high enough to keep up with the chemicals but on the perfect speed where I don't react to the carbon expelling in the air outflow. Coconut shell is not considered by many to be very effective w/formaldehyde and other heavy duty chemicals but that's a trade off I am totally ok with. The MSDS sheets on my chemical situation doesn't involve formaldehyde anyway...or so it says. But either way for me to have FINALLY found an air cleaner that I can tolerate is SUCH a huge victory. My 3rd machine will be ordered I hope by the end of the month or as $ allows. That machine will go upstairs in the loft and be positioned to capture the loft itself as well at the two attaching bedrooms. Although the machine down in the cathedral living room has hugely reduced the amount of chemicals fumes migrating up there, combined with the upstairs windows I still need an exclusive machine up there. I also would like a 4th machine to cover the kitchen, which is walled off sorta by itself. But not gonna happen financially. So what I am doing is when I know that I need to spend time in the kitchen, I roll the cathedral lr/droom machine over to straddle the kitchen and run it on high for 10 minutes or so recycling the air in the room numerous times. I then turn it down to the " sweet spot " where it doesn't bother me and voila, can do what I need to do in the kitchen. For anyone who does not know what variable speed is...many air cleaners come with low/medium/high type dial settings or maybe 5 settings like lo/lomed/med/medhigh/high..something like that. A variable speed motor does not have preset speeds like that. On these AirPura dials, there is no notched feeling on the dial as you turn the air speed up or down. It's a smooth dial that you can scooch up or down one hair at a time. This allows me to find that truly perfect spot that is just enough speed to move the air and eradicate the chemicals but low enough to not bother me. Years ago, I owned a couple of AllerAir machines. http://allerair.com/ That was back in the day before they had the MCS line and also the varible speed motors. They now have variable speed motors on some of their models for those that think such a feature may be of value to them. I have seen numerous MCS people post about success with their AirMedic line. They also have the AllerAir MCS line of machines made with cotton filters, metal carbon canisters, etc. I think that AllerAir may still require the purchase of a test kit before purchasing a machine, which is then applied to the purchase of a machine. They offer machines with numerous carbon options such as impregnated carbons, zeolite, etc. For those posting about Austin Air, I had the Plus model and only at the very top speed did it keep up with the chemicals in my house. But at top speed, it also spewed the offgassing of it's foam, glue, plastic motor lubricant, etc made it intolerable for me. Like someone else in this group posting about Dr Rea recommending Austin...so did his protege/my environ doc Dr Sherry as well. To be honest, having owned and Austin and opened it up and seen what's inside..I am shocked that they are so highly recommended for people w/MCS. Maybe it's because of their awareness of MCS and the offgassing program that they offer to us. Oh yes and BTW...for anyone in the market for an air cleaner..listen to this one. I found a distributor where I am buying my machines and check this out: -does not collect sale tax outside Virginia -they pay shopping to you -60 day unconditional money back guarantee -they pay return shipping -no restocking fee except for certain exclusions. Yes that's right and just to recap....no outside Virginia tax, no shipping both ways, no restocking fee, 60 day return policy. Unheard of in the world of air cleaners, as many of us know!! So there, that's my report on my air cleaner saga..lol.. I am SOOO grateful to have found this company AirPura and have these C600 machines. I can now at least tolerate my home and buy enough time until we open up our houses in the spring. Sounds dramatic but know that other MCS people understand when I say that I feel like these are saving my life right now. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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