Re: The Prevention and Treatment of Exercise-Induced Muscle Damage

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Does anybody else feel hung over from DOMS? Maybe the body is just

exhausted but I feel hung over, for lack of a better word.

Matt Kahl

Milwaukee, WI

[Guest guest]

Matt,

When I train for too long I feel hung over from DOMS as well. The only way that

I know how to get over it is to drink water and to SLEEP.

Ron ez,

Lynnwood, WA

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Re: The Prevention and Treatment of Exercise-Induced

Muscle Damage

Hi,

Does anybody else feel hung over from DOMS? Maybe the body is just

exhausted but I feel hung over, for lack of a better word.

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[Guest guest]

I find that if I have taxed my body's recovery ability to the limit

and I am not careful with my hydration I can feel hung over. If the

feeling persists I tend to take an extra day of rest before the next

workout. I do not find it tied to DOMS, though. My DOMS usually

occurs 48 hours after a workout while the hung over sensation occurs

within 24 hours. I wonder if you are experiencing the symptoms of

mild or " pre " rhabdomyolysis?

A J Wickline

Northampton, MA

>

> Hi,

>

> Does anybody else feel hung over from DOMS? Maybe the body is just

> exhausted but I feel hung over, for lack of a better word.

>

> Matt Kahl

> Milwaukee, WI

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm! That's a good approximation...

Workouts rarely get me to that full lousy " hung over " feeling, the nausea,

pounding headache, dehydration, sleep deprivation, death on a cracker feeling...

But yeah, every full meet I've ever done left me feeling that way when I finally

went to bed. When you think about it, a full powerlifting meet is overkill,

three warmups of three exercises, very little rest, stress and little sleep the

night before, three maximal attempts of three different gut wrenching

exercises...why be " surprised " if you get the DOMS from hell on your body all

night?

Depending too on how hard I had to work to make 90 kg when I was at that weight

class, it could be an all night DOMS adventure where I recall not wanting to

move from ONE position that seemed to quell the nausea and at least attempt to

placate my pounding skull. 2 liters of water on the nightstand, and hungry but

not feeling very well all night... no ibuprofen can cut the full body headache

you get from that. Some meets simply leave a full body " bruise " on you, inside

and out lol.

Once in a while, I'll add JUST enough to a workout (usually DL) to get very

close to that full meet death on a cracker feeling.

But yes, the few alcohol hangovers I've had are a close approximation - but the

headache seems worse from DOMS...the fully muscular " you asked for this one "

sort of prevails on any attempt to really sleep for hours. And you're not aware

you " overdid " until you actually try to sleep too lol.

Good point.

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA

-------------- Original message --------------

Hi,

Does anybody else feel hung over from DOMS? Maybe the body is just

exhausted but I feel hung over, for lack of a better word.

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[Guest guest]

Matt,

Can you describe your symptoms? I sometimes feel like I'm running a mild fever

when my erector spinae and knee joints are sore, because I mentally associate

this with feverous symptoms. But when I think of a hangover I think of severe

dehydration, stomach upset, a persistent headache, and hypersensitivity towards

noise and bright lights.

Pérez

Reynosa, Mexico

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From: Supertraining [mailto:Supertraining ] On

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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:30 AM

To: Supertraining

Subject: Re: The Prevention and Treatment of Exercise-Induced

Muscle Damage

Hi,

Does anybody else feel hung over from DOMS? Maybe the body is just

exhausted but I feel hung over, for lack of a better word.

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I haven't done a night of drinking like that in years, ouch!:-) So it's

probably a mental association but it's interesting to see that it's somewhat

common here. I wasn't really concerned about it being a problem but wanted to

see if other people who lift experience it. If you damage enough muscle I

wonder if it's the toxins or stress hormones that bring on that feeling. I

don't mind the muscle soreness of DOMS because I do associate that with a good

workout, even if that's wrong. I guess if I feel hungover the next day I'm

curious if I just went past the healthy DOMS point and shot myself in the foot

and that's the bod's way of saying watch it. I would describe it as lethargic,

feverish, full body aches...which is as bad as hangovers get for me if I let it.

Matt Kahl

Milwaukee, WI

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5e. Re: The Prevention and Treatment of Exercise-Induced Muscle Damage

Posted by: " , " miguel.perez@... metalhead2_mx

Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:44 am ((PDT))

Matt,

Can you describe your symptoms? I sometimes feel like I'm running a mild fever

when my erector spinae and knee joints are sore, because I mentally associate

this with feverous symptoms. But when I think of a hangover I think of severe

dehydration, stomach upset, a persistent headache, and hypersensitivity towards

noise and bright lights.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Matt:

Are you sure that what you are referring to is DOMS? It takes a day or two to

hit and is

debilitating. Once was more than enough for me, but I certainly could not

confuse it with a

hangover. When I would sleep at an unacclimated altitude oxygen equivalent I

would wake

up with a hangover. I don't know if it is relevant to this thread, but High

Altitude Training

or exercise put a stop to that and unfortunately hypoxia direct curing my

insomnia.

Cheers;

Mike Grace

Puriscal, Costa Rica

> I don't mind the muscle soreness of DOMS because I do associate that with a

good

workout, even if that's wrong. I guess if I feel hungover the next day I'm

curious if I just

went past the healthy DOMS point and shot myself in the foot and that's the

bod's way of

saying watch it. I would describe it as lethargic, feverish, full body

aches...which is as bad

as hangovers get for me if I let it.

>

> Matt Kahl

[Guest guest]

Some coaches use DOMS as a training tool. At the beginning of the macro-cycle

they work

their charges until DOMS appears in order to know which muscle groups need

attention -

cruel but effective.

Mike Grace

Puriscal, Costa Rica

[Guest guest]

WHAT?

You must be kidding. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.

- Friedrich von Schiller

W.G.

Ubermensch Sports Consultancy

San Diego CA

>

> Some coaches use DOMS as a training tool. At the beginning of the

macro-cycle they work

> their charges until DOMS appears in order to know which muscle

groups need attention -

> cruel but effective.

>

>

> Mike Grace

> Puriscal, Costa Rica

>