Re: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

April 29, 2012

I take about 2000 units of B3 a day but it is in a little round sort of oil

pill.Â I started taking B12 recently and I find that I do have a bit more

energy.Â

Carolyn Wilkerson

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To: sproutpeople

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:03 PM

Subject: Re: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

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Nope, not enough in sunlight, although that has been the " fantasy " that has

been fed us by docs and health gurus for years. And with the stuff they're

spraying up in the sky, we get even less <G>. I'm wiling to bet that most

people are low D Â and it's been interesting to watch the " D " bandwagon.

Another thing to be aware of Is that D and A are antagonists (I'm sure

there's a better word) - probably they hit the same receptor sites Â so

whatever you take in a combined form is not getting there (in your multis or

an A & D pill) - Because it's a fat soluble vite, (actually a hormone) if you

are chronically low fat in your diet Â there could be some issues. The best

form to take, as a supplement is D3, and I take it in a dry form. I actually

take a lot (when I remember to take it) because of my gastric bypass

surgery. The old standards (just enough to prevent rickets) are waaaay too

low. Lots of research out on this. Another problem is that some people

have problems converting D2 to D3 (D2 is the precursor) -

Pam

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:51 PM

To:

Subject: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

>

> A few weeks ago I went to the doctor to have my vitamin B12 level checked

> since I am vegan and wanted to find out. She went ahead and also checked my

> vitamin D level. I got a letter in the mail last week saying for me to make

> an appt. as my vitamin D level was extremely low. I have not yet made my

> appt, but I plan to soon. As I was searching thru free kindle books today I

> found this one that caught my eye:

>

> http://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Deficiency-Fibromyalgia-Depression-ebook/dp/B

> 0037QH0C0/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text & ie=UTF8 & qid=1335743128 & sr=1-1

>

> I just started reading it and have no one near finished yet, but it seems

> interesting so far. I thought I would post it in case anyone is interested

> while it is still free. I am working on finishing it now. If anyone reads it

> and has an opinion on it I would be interested in hearing it. I thought for

> sure I got enough vit D since I live in sunny California and take vitamins,

> but I guess not.

>

April 29, 2012

DO keep in mind that the TESTING for Vitamin D is seriously flawed. It is quite

likely that EVERYONE who follows a Standard American Diet (SAD) and gets Vitamin

D testing is very likely going to test low. This is not necessarily acurate.

The reason is, ALL commercial milk is pumped full of " Vitamin D " , which is

actually a steroid. It is also given to meat, dairy and poultry animals in

their feed, so most Americans have been getting too MUCH of that form of Vitamin

D for years, and the testing is flawed, at best. Far too much info to post

here, but worth researching for yourself if you want the info-like MOST standard

tests, they just are not accurate due to the way we eat.

April 29, 2012

>

> Nope, not enough in sunlight, although that has been the " fantasy "

> that has

> been fed us by docs and health gurus for years. And with the stuff they're

> spraying up in the sky, we get even less <G>. I'm wiling to bet that most

> people are low D and it's been interesting to watch the " D " bandwagon.

> Another thing to be aware of Is that D and A are antagonists (I'm sure

> there's a better word) - probably they hit the same receptor sites so

> whatever you take in a combined form is not getting there (in your

> multis or

> an A & D pill) - Because it's a fat soluble vite, (actually a hormone)

> if you

> are chronically low fat in your diet there could be some issues. The

> best

> form to take, as a supplement is D3, and I take it in a dry form. I

> actually

> take a lot (when I remember to take it) because of my gastric bypass

> surgery. The old standards (just enough to prevent rickets) are waaaay too

> low. Lots of research out on this. Another problem is that some people

> have problems converting D2 to D3 (D2 is the precursor) -

> Pam

>

I read in the book by Jeff T Bowles that megadosing vitamin D3 uses up

your vitamin A and K, so these should be suplemented while taking more

than, from memory, it was somewhere around 25 IU per day. Jeff T Bowles

took a lot more than that in order to modify some injuries to his

joints. He says Vitamin D is the hormone for causing deepest healing and

he has a theory that the lack of it triggers shallow healing and the

eating of sugar berries as is needed for hibernation. His theory is that

everyone with a vitamin D deficiency is sore and depressed for a reason.

It is inversely the hibernation hormone, so when there is little sun,

you eat sugar and become sore and tired because hibernation doesn't

require you to be awake and limber and healing is delayed until you are

taking in nourishment again. Jeff T Bowles also thinks that diabetes is

a survival mechanism for hibernation, that goes awry if you don't

hibernate after eating sugar and becoming sore and tired. Jeff T Bowls

and the author of " Deep Nutrition " both think that sugar interferes with

hormones and make us sore from a lack of healing.

This seems to explain a lot of what we see going on today. Are they

putting us to sleep with sun screens and subsidized sugar? Gee, why

would anyone want the American people to fall into a deep sleep?

Jeff

April 29, 2012

Yes, I wasn't clear ¡© it's not that you would never take A, it's that you

would take it at a different time than the D ¡© I take my D when I wake up in

the middle of the night <G>.

Pam

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:58 PM

To: <sproutpeople >

Subject: Re: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

>

>> >

>> > Nope, not enough in sunlight, although that has been the " fantasy "

>> > that has

>> > been fed us by docs and health gurus for years. And with the stuff they're

>> > spraying up in the sky, we get even less <G>. I'm wiling to bet that most

>> > people are low D ¡© and it's been interesting to watch the " D " bandwagon.

>> > Another thing to be aware of Is that D and A are antagonists (I'm sure

>> > there's a better word) - probably they hit the same receptor sites ¡© so

>> > whatever you take in a combined form is not getting there (in your

>> > multis or

>> > an A & D pill) - Because it's a fat soluble vite, (actually a hormone)

>> > if you

>> > are chronically low fat in your diet ¡© there could be some issues. The

>> > best

>> > form to take, as a supplement is D3, and I take it in a dry form. I

>> > actually

>> > take a lot (when I remember to take it) because of my gastric bypass

>> > surgery. The old standards (just enough to prevent rickets) are waaaay too

>> > low. Lots of research out on this. Another problem is that some people

>> > have problems converting D2 to D3 (D2 is the precursor) -

>> > Pam

>> >

> I read in the book by Jeff T Bowles that megadosing vitamin D3 uses up

> your vitamin A and K, so these should be suplemented while taking more

> than, from memory, it was somewhere around 25 IU per day. Jeff T Bowles

> took a lot more than that in order to modify some injuries to his

> joints. He says Vitamin D is the hormone for causing deepest healing and

> he has a theory that the lack of it triggers shallow healing and the

> eating of sugar berries as is needed for hibernation. His theory is that

> everyone with a vitamin D deficiency is sore and depressed for a reason.

> It is inversely the hibernation hormone, so when there is little sun,

> you eat sugar and become sore and tired because hibernation doesn't

> require you to be awake and limber and healing is delayed until you are

> taking in nourishment again. Jeff T Bowles also thinks that diabetes is

> a survival mechanism for hibernation, that goes awry if you don't

> hibernate after eating sugar and becoming sore and tired. Jeff T Bowls

> and the author of " Deep Nutrition " both think that sugar interferes with

> hormones and make us sore from a lack of healing.

>

> This seems to explain a lot of what we see going on today. Are they

> putting us to sleep with sun screens and subsidized sugar? Gee, why

> would anyone want the American people to fall into a deep sleep?

>

> Jeff

>

> Jeff

>

April 29, 2012

>

> Yes, I wasn't clear ¡© it's not that you would never take A, it's that you

> would take it at a different time than the D ¡© I take my D when I wake

> up in

> the middle of the night <G>.

>

Thanks. I didn't know I should take them at different times. I'm used to

taking the D3 in the morning, so I guess I'd take the A in the early

evening.

Jeff

April 29, 2012

Yes, there are other tests, but the LEVEL of D that has become the " standard " is

not necessarily accurate, and certainly not what is considered a " normal " level

in other countries. When I have testing done in England, I am within normal

limits, but testing here in the states shows that I am chronically deficient.

My point is, the " standard " was set higher back in the 40s when foods started

being " enriched " with vitamins to avoid malnutrition during war time, and was

never adjusted accordingly. It is the standard level that is flawed, not so

much in the testing method...although there are flaws there too.

>

> There are 2 tests for D, . Depending on what the doc requests, you

> could be getting accurate testing. Since I've lived with surgically induced

> malnutrition for the last 10 years, I've done a lot of study on vites and

> minerals.

>

> Here's an excellent website

> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

>

> Pam

>

> Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

> Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:37 PM

> To: <sproutpeople >

> Subject: Re: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

>

> >

> > DO keep in mind that the TESTING for Vitamin D is seriously flawed. It is

> > quite likely that EVERYONE who follows a Standard American Diet (SAD) and

gets

> > Vitamin D testing is very likely going to test low. This is not necessarily

> > acurate. The reason is, ALL commercial milk is pumped full of " Vitamin D " ,

> > which is actually a steroid. It is also given to meat, dairy and poultry

> > animals in their feed, so most Americans have been getting too MUCH of that

> > form of Vitamin D for years, and the testing is flawed, at best. Far too

much

> > info to post here, but worth researching for yourself if you want the

> > info-like MOST standard tests, they just are not accurate due to the way we

> > eat.

> >

>

April 29, 2012

At the wellness practice where I work, many of our patients are low in Vit.

D. We routinely put our pts on Vit. D3 supplements. I take 5,000 i.u.'s

every day or every other day. My level is in the mid-50's (the lab value

range is from 30 to 100) and our practice recommendation is for pts to have

levels between 60 and 80. Vit. D is significant in the protection against

many diseases, including Alzheimer's, MS, Parkinson's and many cancers.

Bottom line is, it's important to have adequate levels. African Americans

and also obese individuals typically have low levels so it's extra important

to have it checked if you're in one of those groups.

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Pam Gotcher

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:03 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

Nope, not enough in sunlight, although that has been the " fantasy " that has

been fed us by docs and health gurus for years. And with the stuff they're

spraying up in the sky, we get even less <G>. I'm wiling to bet that most

people are low D - and it's been interesting to watch the " D " bandwagon.

Another thing to be aware of Is that D and A are antagonists (I'm sure

there's a better word) - probably they hit the same receptor sites - so

whatever you take in a combined form is not getting there (in your multis or

an A & D pill) - Because it's a fat soluble vite, (actually a hormone) if you

are chronically low fat in your diet - there could be some issues. The best

form to take, as a supplement is D3, and I take it in a dry form. I actually

take a lot (when I remember to take it) because of my gastric bypass

surgery. The old standards (just enough to prevent rickets) are waaaay too

low. Lots of research out on this. Another problem is that some people

have problems converting D2 to D3 (D2 is the precursor) -

Pam

From: Navarro <navarrosarah@...

<mailto:navarrosarah%40hotmail.com> >

Reply-To: <sproutpeople

<mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> >

Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:51 PM

To: <navarrosarah@... <mailto:navarrosarah%40hotmail.com> >

Subject: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D

>

> A few weeks ago I went to the doctor to have my vitamin B12 level checked

> since I am vegan and wanted to find out. She went ahead and also checked

my

> vitamin D level. I got a letter in the mail last week saying for me to

make

> an appt. as my vitamin D level was extremely low. I have not yet made my

> appt, but I plan to soon. As I was searching thru free kindle books today

I

> found this one that caught my eye:

>

http://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Deficiency-Fibromyalgia-Depression-ebook/dp

/B

> 0037QH0C0/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text & ie=UTF8 & qid=1335743128 & sr=1-1

>

> I just started reading it and have no one near finished yet, but it seems

> interesting so far. I thought I would post it in case anyone is interested

> while it is still free. I am working on finishing it now. If anyone reads

it

> and has an opinion on it I would be interested in hearing it. I thought

for

> sure I got enough vit D since I live in sunny California and take

vitamins,

> but I guess not.

>

April 29, 2012

Many people are very low in D, even though they are exposed to it by

being out in the sun. I was very low when tested and my doc put me on a

prescription D. As you age, you don't absorb it like you did when you

were younger. And the farther north you are, the less you get from the

sun anyway. I'm in Texas and get a lot of sun exposure, but it was

still quite low, around 30. I believe that everyone needs to get their D

checked!!!

This kindle book may have some good info, I don't have time to look at

it now, but fibromyalgia is NOT caused by low D, but by a deficient gene

that has nothing to do with D.

However, it is true that a lot of symptoms overlap. But when the level

of D comes up, someone with fibro still has it.

If the doc puts you on it, be sure it's D3, not the usual D2 that they

most often prescribe. It isn't absorbed nearly as well as D3.

And please, everyone, get your D checked! It should be at least 50, if

not higher, but a lot of docs still think 30 is " normal " , when it's

quite low.

April 30, 2012

I started off with 6000 units I think until my D level was okay and then I keep

on with 2000 units now.Â I hadn't realized that D was connected with calcium

deficiency and also with diabetics.Â May diabetics have low D 3 as well.Â I am

not sure if that is an issue with triglicerides as well or not but I take things

for triglicerides too.Â My cholesterol is okay except my good cholesterol HCL

is low, has been for a long time, maybe forever.Â i don't get enough exercise

which is what I need to do to increase the HCL.

Â

Carolyn Wilkerson

Â

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:35 PM

Subject: RE: Free Kindle ebook on vitamin D