Re: Mysterious Joint Pain

[Guest guest]

I can't tell you for certain that your joint pain is from the buildings you

have been living in. However, I can tell you from my experience working in

a moldy and not well maintained bldg. I suffered with terrible joint pain.

My hands were so bad at times that I couldn't squeeze toothpaste out or

wrap my fingers about a doorknob or steering wheel. I have not return to

that building since 2004 and have been under the care of my Dr. No joint pain

now unless I am in a bad place for a long period of time. Then I can get

pretty sick for about 4 days depending on the length and type of exposure.

Go to _www.biotoxin.info_ (http://www.biotoxin.info) and take the VCS

test to see if you test positive for a toxic illness. It is all explained how

and why the test works, it is 98% accurate, but it is only a first

screening. May give you a start and you can read some good information about

sick

buildings.

I have noticed that I get terrible joint pain in some buildings, and then

none in other buildings. I have been traveling a lot these past few years.

I stayed in one Manhattan apartment (old, railroad type) where I had joint

pain as long as the heating was on. Once the warm weather came, and the

heating turned off, the joint pain stopped.

[Guest guest]

I frequently experience joint pain, and joint swelling in damp buildings and

buildings with prior water damage. I seem to remember a paper written about ten

years ago regarding rheumatoid-like symptoms from thermal actinomycetes in damp

buildings. Perhaps Dr. Thrasher has additional information on this issue.

Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

Sanit-Air, Inc.

cleanlinest.wordpress.com

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> I have noticed that I get terrible joint pain in some buildings, and then none

in other buildings. I have been traveling a lot these past few years. I stayed

in one Manhattan apartment (old, railroad type) where I had joint pain as long

as the heating was on. Once the warm weather came, and the heating turned off,

the joint pain stopped.

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> I was in a serviced apartment in England, another old, but renovated building,

where I had terrible joint pain. I then moved to a studio apartment where the

joint pain again disappeared.

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> I am now back in the US in a sublet apartment, post war, typical Manhattan

midtown apartment, and the joint pain is back with a vengence. I am really

wondering if this pain is connected to the buildings I'm in, and what in these

buildings could be causing it. This building is in a high traffic area, and

there is not much air going through the apartment, although you can open the

windows. The air is just not fresh though.

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[Guest guest]

I have joint pain from the neck down (arthritis many years).  Not only do my

bones hurt when it is cold (I am in AZ), they hurt when it is hot and humid, and

when it is cold and humid.  I use ice packs on the hips and knees, heat on my

shoulders, neck, hands, back.  The next time you hurt, check if the humidity is

high.

I lived in Tampa FL for 6 mos, then moved to San TX for 5 yrs (in the

80s) and my bones hurt non-stop EVERY day until I moved to Sacramento, then to

Phoenix.  My chiropractor told me some patients do better a the warm dry

climate than in a humid climate.   If possible, you might spend some time in a

dry desert area and see if your pain subsides.

I retired (2 yrs ago) because  of the ongoing renovations in the hospital

where I worked, the onset of my MCS and over the years it progressed.  During

those periods when the work was going on, all the bones in my body hurt and my

skin felt hot.

Also, you might buy a good air cleaner.  The IQ ($900) is very good and can be

pushed very easily from room to room, so you can get away with one.  I put mine

in the bedroom at night, use the IQ in the living room during the winter months

when people are using fireplaces/burning wood.  I have the Austin Healthmate,

too, but the IQ is more effective for the fireplace smoke/stink that gets into

the house.

....Corky

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