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There can be medical biofilms inside the body and there can be

environmental biofilms on surfaces of building structures and on

contents. They are not always present and the two should not be

confused.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Aspergillus fumigatus Forms Biofilms with Reduced Antifungal Drug

Susceptibility on Bronchial Epithelial Cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2573142/

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The estimates for biofilms caused by bacterial infections is close to 90 %,

depending on the method of detection. The biofilms from Candida are well

accepted. The biofilms caused by Aspergillus fumigatus is in its infancy, but

does occur in mouse models.

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There can be medical biofilms inside the body and there can be

environmental biofilms on surfaces of building structures and on

contents. They are not always present and the two should not be

confused.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Aspergillus fumigatus Forms Biofilms with Reduced Antifungal Drug

Susceptibility on Bronchial Epithelial Cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2573142/

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I think the biofilm exposure in some, " NOT ALL " WDB exposures is the cause of

colonization and infection. I think it can get pretty heavy and be noticable in

a high moisture,active growth situation,

maybe one that has been so for years, that might explain why it's not

a easy thing to grasp unless you've been there,done that and witnessed it with

your own eyes. I cant say I saw it in the air,

some may, I dont know, I only noticed it on my belongings and only when I tried

to clean some of them. alot was going on with my vision than too so maybe it

could have been seen in the air, I dont know.

I also dont think it is easy to get rid of and plays a role in continued illness

for some of us.

exspecially when mucosal and tissue damage is involved.

even though we are not immune compromised.

I could get into some details but I've heard people trying to describ this

accurence before and they basically got laibled as nuts from our own. in short,

some of us are moldy, maybe like a deeply embedded thorn, this stuff slowly

makes it way out through the skin.

thats about the only way I could discribe it.

there is nothing else that explains what I dealt with, what I saw, what I have

experienced. period.

I cant ignore that when I tried cleaning this off of some of my belongings the

water turned the same light green as some mold I vedio taped that was growing on

some insulation pulled down out of the wall, that this was the same color of

green that my pee turned to and my cataracts was. now the biofilm itself may not

have a color but the mold that may be produceing this biofilm , in it's active

state is probably what the color comes from.

now I've been hanging out for a long time waiting and searching for answers to

this and this is it. I asked about resin's mamy times.

and it needs the reconization that it deserves.

why? because just maybe some of us aren't going to get well unless we get

antifungal treatment.

so it does sound a little science fiction but it's not, it happens and it needs

to be reconized.

truth is, had someone tried to relay their experience with this to me had I not

been exposed in my second home, I would have a hard time comprehending what in

the hell they were talking about too.

but it happened to me with my second exposure, not the first one, but the second

one.

now it's really easy to say, well I didn't experience that, I've never seen a

situation like that so it just cant happen.

how many times have we heard that before?

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

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>

> The estimates for biofilms caused by bacterial infections is close to 90 %,

depending on the method of detection. The biofilms from Candida are well

accepted. The biofilms caused by Aspergillus fumigatus is in its infancy, but

does occur in mouse models.

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> There can be medical biofilms inside the body and there can be

> environmental biofilms on surfaces of building structures and on

> contents. They are not always present and the two should not be

> confused.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

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> Aspergillus fumigatus Forms Biofilms with Reduced Antifungal Drug

> Susceptibility on Bronchial Epithelial Cells

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2573142/

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I have to talk about the use of the black light like Dr. Gray does,

I thought when he did that with me it would show up mainly on my scalp, hands

and feet and my upper back, arms, stomach.

it didn't show alot, not what I thought it would.

however I wasn't at that time suffering what I think is somehow the off and on

spurt of this stuff coming out of my body, so that might explain that. I'm going

through this right now because I cought a cold or something and was freezing and

turned up the heat and than the sweating and now the cold or whatever is over

but this stuff is going on, it' seems my feet like to swell along with this

happening and my hands fell weird and I've noticed that for some reason my palms

are really white with red burning splotchiness like my feet get.

and it didn't take wearing soaks and shoes and my feet swaeting to get this

started again like that first time I reconized this happening in a obvious way.

what really got me thinking about this was a few years earlier when I went to

shoemaker, it was hot ,in july or augest when I went.

interesting is that shoemaker looked at my ankles and the swelling was bad than

too.

remember, I'm heat intolerant, I avoided the heat cause it just wiped me out.

for a long time I didn't sweat which made it worse, but I was practiceing

advoidance and I kept in cool inside cause I felt better that way.

anyway, we went to shoemaker, I hadn't really wore shoes because my feet would

swell alot off and on.

I wore soaks and shoes when we went.

my feet sweated, the more they sweated the more they burned.

I was embassrassed when I reconized the smell at the airport when I had to take

my shoes off.

now this smell was bad, I'll save the details during the trip which I'm sure my

lawyer still laughs about. I had no clue, I'd never had

foot fungas my whole life and I wore work boots and socks alot on my job.

anyway, by the time I was back home, rideing home with my sister my feet were on

fire and the smell was unbealivable. I through the shoes away. I tried

everything to get my feet to stop this, my hands were doing the same, burning, a

little pealing and a stickiness ,calminess

thing going on. it finally mellowed out. I thought it was the wearing of bakeing

soda that did the trick, also had a prescribed antifungal cream but it didn't

seem to help, I treated my hands too.

so anyway heres what I knoticed sence than, this is a re-accureing thing,

it always has been sence my exposure, I just never had it happen so obvious that

it got my attn. above other things.

now I go through periods of haveing what cant be discribed as only inflammation,

I get feverish and I sweat, sometimes it's only certain body areas, sometimes it

my whole body.

even though that coating is long cut out of my hair, there are times that I

swear my scalp is moldy and my sweating out also happens to my head. this isn't

mycotoxins comeing out of my body.

this sweating has a smell and it's never as strong as what my feet got to

smelling like but it has a smell that is nothing like my body ever smelt like

before my exposure.

I think this biofilm got pretty much in my body everywhere, the same route as

damage accured and I think it's the sorce of re-accuring mold growth spurts. I

have to think that when you have vasculitis,

this stuff is gotton into the surrounding tissue, even with small cell

vasculitis and close the the skin surffus, and works it's way out

,something like that. hard to explain.

makes me think of a vedio thats been posted here before showing a grasshopper

and live motion with a mushroom slowly growing out of his head. I'm not kidding.

the only explanation I can see in that this is a form of colonization and the

mold fragments or whatever got inside along with that biofilm is the sorse of

the colonization.

now I had a bad time with the antifungal nasal spray and the re-accuring

menningitis but I'm getting the scrip filled again and trying it again I guess.

it's becouse obvious to me that I am colonized. really truely, what I probably

need is supervised antifungal treatment along with massage and sauna detox and

someway to stop it all from going to my brain at the same time.

the antifungal nasal spray, in the short time I used it did help with two polops

that were blocking my breating, one may be gone completely.

so that tells me those were fungal. but even if I can get to some place where I

can use this without it causeing re-accuring menningitis I dont know that it

well get to the rest of my body.

I do know that it made it's way to my stomach cause it tased pretty nasty went

it ran down the back of my throat.

but I probably need antifungals in a IV treatment.

>

> I think the biofilm exposure in some, " NOT ALL " WDB exposures is the cause of

colonization and infection. I think it can get pretty heavy and be noticable in

a high moisture,active growth situation,

> maybe one that has been so for years, that might explain why it's not

> a easy thing to grasp unless you've been there,done that and witnessed it with

your own eyes. I cant say I saw it in the air,

> some may, I dont know, I only noticed it on my belongings and only when I

tried to clean some of them. alot was going on with my vision than too so maybe

it could have been seen in the air, I dont know.

>

> I also dont think it is easy to get rid of and plays a role in continued

illness for some of us.

> exspecially when mucosal and tissue damage is involved.

> even though we are not immune compromised.

>

> I could get into some details but I've heard people trying to describ this

accurence before and they basically got laibled as nuts from our own. in short,

some of us are moldy, maybe like a deeply embedded thorn, this stuff slowly

makes it way out through the skin.

> thats about the only way I could discribe it.

>

>

> there is nothing else that explains what I dealt with, what I saw, what I have

experienced. period.

> I cant ignore that when I tried cleaning this off of some of my belongings the

water turned the same light green as some mold I vedio taped that was growing on

some insulation pulled down out of the wall, that this was the same color of

green that my pee turned to and my cataracts was. now the biofilm itself may not

have a color but the mold that may be produceing this biofilm , in it's active

state is probably what the color comes from.

>

> now I've been hanging out for a long time waiting and searching for answers to

this and this is it. I asked about resin's mamy times.

> and it needs the reconization that it deserves.

> why? because just maybe some of us aren't going to get well unless we get

antifungal treatment.

>

> so it does sound a little science fiction but it's not, it happens and it

needs to be reconized.

> truth is, had someone tried to relay their experience with this to me had I

not been exposed in my second home, I would have a hard time comprehending what

in the hell they were talking about too.

> but it happened to me with my second exposure, not the first one, but the

second one.

> now it's really easy to say, well I didn't experience that, I've never seen a

situation like that so it just cant happen.

> how many times have we heard that before?

>

>

> --- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@>

wrote:

> >

> > The estimates for biofilms caused by bacterial infections is close to 90 %,

depending on the method of detection. The biofilms from Candida are well

accepted. The biofilms caused by Aspergillus fumigatus is in its infancy, but

does occur in mouse models.

> > Re: [] AF forms biofilms

> > >

> > There can be medical biofilms inside the body and there can be

> > environmental biofilms on surfaces of building structures and on

> > contents. They are not always present and the two should not be

> > confused.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> > Aspergillus fumigatus Forms Biofilms with Reduced Antifungal Drug

> > Susceptibility on Bronchial Epithelial Cells

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2573142/

> >

> > ----------

> >

>

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