Re: Help with microbial test results

[Guest guest]

nah,

We use the Pure Encapsulations P5P 50mg caps. Also have used life extension but

it's more pricey and saw no clinical difference. It was difficult for me to

think of going so high[800mg] as everything one reads says there's a synergy

between the Bvits. He told me of this other experience when we were talking

about it. My gut says yes you can 'overdose' with giving one inappropriately

high w/o need and throw all the Bs out of whack-not very scientific, I know. We

deal w seizures here and there's lots one can find re B6 and seizure control.

Biotin is the same. We do give extra B1,2,3 based on testing and doc

recommendations - really just all the 'mito cocktail' ingredients as well. To,

me the need is an outgrowth of the heavy metal toxicty[mercury] as it causes so

much mito distress. My daughter is adult now[120#]. The gals @

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/recoveryfromautism/ are helpful on supp and

I've read there 8mg/kg max re B6. I surely would work up slowly. Tapering off

would be preference here if we would ever dc. I have been amazed at the biotin

too. Dana rec for yeast control. It can be quite helpful for some in seizure

mode. We have edged up to 80mg/day and now are at 140mg/day w no adverse effects

- seems to greatly help yeast. We also use caprylic acid, emulsified oregano oil

and lots of coconut oil for yeast. GSE is a no go here. Have you done a Hair

Elements Test? Are you chelating? Low and slow AC? You are fortunate to have

found all this info w such a young child - perfect window of time for treatment

and long term help.

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> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on some of our recent

results - we are not due to see DrG until April.

> > >

> > > We recently did a course of Nitazoxanide, which was really good for my boy

(poos have been solid ever since; auditory processing/receptive language

improve). (We'd done vancomycin twice before - same gains but didn't last).

> > >

> > > We did a microbial oat immediately after finishing Nit..

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> > > 1. 2 yeast markers high (3-oxoglutaric, arabinose is sky high)We

suspected this as yeasty behaviours. I know we'd expect thsi after antibiotic,

but he's on fluconazole. Does this suggest fluconazole resistance? He's also

scd.

> > >

> > > We're due to start itraconazole for suspected aspergillus(?) - does htis

also address candida?

> > >

> > > 2. dhppa is listed as " beneficial bacteria " on the great plains test, is

it not good for it to be too high, hence reference range? His is gone up to 5.4

(ref <=.59) - this was immediately after nitazoxanide.

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> > > 3. 2-hydroxyhippuric acid was elevated. I can't find much about this

marker. Does any one know its significance?

> > >

> > > 4. H & B last week showed increased Aspartate Transferase (41, ref 0-37) -

should I be concerned about liver function?

> > >

> > > Many thanks in advance for any lightanyone can shed.

> > >

> > > nah

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

thanks again for all of this information. You're right - it's good to have all

this information while he's so young. We've been doing this maybe a year so

still so much to learn, hence very appreciative of your advice.

I'll look into the p5p a bit more, looking at incremental increase, and

subsquent bloods too. He doesn't have seizures (but eeg showed abnormal

background activity). Also interested in you mentioning biotin. I noticed when

he started his current multivit (mediclear) that his cradle cap cleared up, and

read up that biotin could have done this, and got to reading more about it, but

have never supplemented separately, but is' also in the b6 complex he takes. He

still has a little cradlecap could indicate still deficient (thinking of yeast

too).

He doesn't have mercury , but has aluminium and antimony (metalothienein done a

yr ago). We've only ever done tddmps, but are considering oral chelation as

next step (dr suggested ala, ac) (just did some toxic/bloods, awaiting results,

and have a urinary porphyrins kit and a hair kit - not sure of added benefit of

doing all 3?). We'll see if anythign new comes up

Thank you as well for the yeast advice (incl biotin) - I really need to get on

top of this naturally. He takes oil oforegano. How is emulsified different

from oil? Never done caprylic acid or coconut oil , but just bought some kefir

starter crystals. He's just started itraconozole, which will help short term,

but will start to introduce more natural remedies for long term.

Thanks again - you've given me a lot to think about and to try out.

nah

> > > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on some of our recent

results - we are not due to see DrG until April.

> > > >

> > > > We recently did a course of Nitazoxanide, which was really good for my

boy (poos have been solid ever since; auditory processing/receptive language

improve). (We'd done vancomycin twice before - same gains but didn't last).

> > > >

> > > > We did a microbial oat immediately after finishing Nit..

> > > >

> > > > 1. 2 yeast markers high (3-oxoglutaric, arabinose is sky high)We

suspected this as yeasty behaviours. I know we'd expect thsi after antibiotic,

but he's on fluconazole. Does this suggest fluconazole resistance? He's also

scd.

> > > >

> > > > We're due to start itraconazole for suspected aspergillus(?) - does htis

also address candida?

> > > >

> > > > 2. dhppa is listed as " beneficial bacteria " on the great plains test,

is it not good for it to be too high, hence reference range? His is gone up to

5.4 (ref <=.59) - this was immediately after nitazoxanide.

> > > >

> > > > 3. 2-hydroxyhippuric acid was elevated. I can't find much about this

marker. Does any one know its significance?

> > > >

> > > > 4. H & B last week showed increased Aspartate Transferase (41, ref 0-37)

- should I be concerned about liver function?

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks in advance for any lightanyone can shed.

> > > >

> > > > nah

> > > >

> > >

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