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Ok so seems ive definately cross contaminated as there is a spot next to the

heater where i always sit that i now get symptoms at, mainly my sinuses are

irritated, itchy crawling skin, sore tonsils, itchy eues. So if contaminated

houses can be remidiated cant this one? There is no mould actually growing. Why

do people flee from house to house when remdiation is possible. Wouldnt it be

much easier to remediate a cross contaminated house? There was some black mould

growing on the blinds here and on the bathroom ceiling. There may be some

bacteria under the stove as it probably hasnt beem cleaned for years, there was

also mould growing in a teapot. One these are all gone cant we remedoate or is

it just not possible for the very sensitive? How is remediation done, ozone,

fogging sprays?? There is a company here in australia that claim to be able to

eradicate mould with a fogging spray that is harmless. A local distributer gave

me a free sample and the msds and i do not seem to react to it.

I think its also known as this:

http://www.21stglobal.com/scientific.htm

Decon-Shield comes in concentrate used as hyper-wetting hog or spray, destroys

all BW organisms including  

weapons grade anthrax, and all other single celled organisms such as Golden

Staph, Klebsiella, fungi, and viruses, etc., via a 

minute positive charge

They charge about 180 to do a house and say they have a 99% success rate. Though

of course im not a routine case..

There is also and ausyralian company who use  tea tree oil for hvacs, thoughts?

We dont have air con but was thinking of using the tea tree oil when i buy a

used car just to be on the safe side.

http://www.gelair.com.au/

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khandalah,

You asked numerous questions for which the answers can be very complicated. (1)

People generally flee from house to house because they are reacting to

something. They might call it cross-contamination, and it might be. However,

because their systems have changed from exposures, these fleeing people might

also be reacting to chemicals, mycotoxins, hidden mold, bacteria, endotoxins,

and fragments of mold. (2) If a house is contaminated only due to

cross-contamination, remediation can generally be effective. This remediation

must be done by removing or cleaning contaminated items and addressing spores

and other fungal or bacterial propagules that have been transported throughout

the new dwelling. A thorough HEPA vacuuming and damp wiping of all surfaces is

necessary. Using compressed air to clean cracks and crevices might also be

warranted as long sufficient make-up air and HEPA-filtration is introduced. (3)

Ozone or fogging of chemicals is a waste of money and can cause more harm than

good. Ozone oxidizes organic compounds, creating intermediaries that are often

toxic. As a strong oxidizer, ozone exposure can harm people if they are

present during the process. Chemical fogging can cause adverse chemical

reactions and leave behind offensive odors. The fogging might cause airborne

particulate contaminants to deposit on horizontal surfaces, but they still need

to be HEPA-vacuumed and damp-wiped.

Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

sanit-air.com

cleanlinest.wordpress.com

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> Ok so seems ive definately cross contaminated as there is a spot next to the

heater where i always sit that i now get symptoms at, mainly my sinuses are

irritated, itchy crawling skin, sore tonsils, itchy eues. So if contaminated

houses can be remidiated cant this one? There is no mould actually growing. Why

do people flee from house to house when remdiation is possible. Wouldnt it be

much easier to remediate a cross contaminated house? There was some black mould

growing on the blinds here and on the bathroom ceiling. There may be some

bacteria under the stove as it probably hasnt beem cleaned for years, there was

also mould growing in a teapot. One these are all gone cant we remedoate or is

it just not possible for the very sensitive? How is remediation done, ozone,

fogging sprays?? There is a company here in australia that claim to be able to

eradicate mould with a fogging spray that is harmless. A local distributer gave

me a free sample and the msds and i do not seem to react to it.

>

> I think its also known as this:

>

> http://www.21stglobal.com/scientific.htm

>

> Decon-Shield comes in concentrate used as hyper-wetting hog or spray, destroys

all BW organisms including  

> weapons grade anthrax, and all other single celled organisms such as Golden

Staph, Klebsiella, fungi, and viruses, etc., via a 

> minute positive charge

>

> They charge about 180 to do a house and say they have a 99% success rate.

Though of course im not a routine case..

>

> There is also and ausyralian company who use  tea tree oil for hvacs,

thoughts? We dont have air con but was thinking of using the tea tree oil when i

buy a used car just to be on the safe side.

>

> http://www.gelair.com.au/

>

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Ive had my truck ozoned and fogged and the ozone even after being hepa vacuumed

3 times like to kill me. At the time it was the middle of December, the effects

from the ozone were so bad I had to drive around with my windows rolled all the

way done. The temperature at the time was in the low 20's. Fogging it wasn't so

bad but but the back of my neck hurt for months and again had to drive around

with my windows rolled down but at this time it was the middle of March so the

temperature ranged between 30 & 40 degrees fahrenheit which made it more

tolerable.

you you have to keep in mind that if a company in Australia had a fool

proof method of ridding mold knowing a dollar can be made it wouldnt take long

for some American company to see the potential and would start using that

process over here. Scammers come in all shapes and sizes make sure you do your

homework before you give anyone any money. And a 99% success rate.... please.

>

> Ok so seems ive definately cross contaminated as there is a spot next to the

heater where i always sit that i now get symptoms at, mainly my sinuses are

irritated, itchy crawling skin, sore tonsils, itchy eues. So if contaminated

houses can be remidiated cant this one? There is no mould actually growing. Why

do people flee from house to house when remdiation is possible. Wouldnt it be

much easier to remediate a cross contaminated house? There was some black mould

growing on the blinds here and on the bathroom ceiling. There may be some

bacteria under the stove as it probably hasnt beem cleaned for years, there was

also mould growing in a teapot. One these are all gone cant we remedoate or is

it just not possible for the very sensitive? How is remediation done, ozone,

fogging sprays?? There is a company here in australia that claim to be able to

eradicate mould with a fogging spray that is harmless. A local distributer gave

me a free sample and the msds and i do not seem to react to it.

>

> I think its also known as this:

>

> http://www.21stglobal.com/scientific.htm

>

> Decon-Shield comes in concentrate used as hyper-wetting hog or spray, destroys

all BW organisms including

> weapons grade anthrax, and all other single celled organisms such as Golden

Staph, Klebsiella, fungi, and viruses, etc., via a

> minute positive charge

>

> They charge about 180 to do a house and say they have a 99% success rate.

Though of course im not a routine case..

>

> There is also and ausyralian company who use tea tree oil for hvacs,

thoughts? We dont have air con but was thinking of using the tea tree oil when i

buy a used car just to be on the safe side.

>

> http://www.gelair.com.au/

>

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Keep in mind that sometimes it takes a while for symptoms/mold to subside. Also

when things are cleaned I get really sick for a week or two just because " stuff "

has been kicked u into the air. It's very random and I can't really

scientifically say what is happening only that sometimes things in the air need

to settle down.

Also-spraying any kind of " bomb " would really scare me-make absolutely 100% sure

there is nothing in it that will make you sick-even if they have to open a bomb

and let you sniff it or keep it in a room to see how you react!

>

> Ok so seems ive definately cross contaminated as there is a spot next to the

heater where i always sit that i now get symptoms at, mainly my sinuses are

irritated, itchy crawling skin, sore tonsils, itchy eues. So if contaminated

houses can be remidiated cant this one? There is no mould actually growing. Why

do people flee from house to house when remdiation is possible. Wouldnt it be

much easier to remediate a cross contaminated house? There was some black mould

growing on the blinds here and on the bathroom ceiling. There may be some

bacteria under the stove as it probably hasnt beem cleaned for years, there was

also mould growing in a teapot. One these are all gone cant we remedoate or is

it just not possible for the very sensitive? How is remediation done, ozone,

fogging sprays?? There is a company here in australia that claim to be able to

eradicate mould with a fogging spray that is harmless. A local distributer gave

me a free sample and the msds and i do not seem to react to it.

>

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The product you are talking about was never meant for use with mold. I know

people who have paid over $600 to have there houses sprayed with this and it did

nothing. The mold spores are still there, what good does it do to spray them

with peroxide and quats? Not much.

>

> Ok so seems ive definately cross contaminated as there is a spot next to the

heater where i always sit that i now get symptoms at, mainly my sinuses are

irritated, itchy crawling skin, sore tonsils, itchy eues. So if contaminated

houses can be remidiated cant this one? There is no mould actually growing. Why

do people flee from house to house when remdiation is possible. Wouldnt it be

much easier to remediate a cross contaminated house? There was some black mould

growing on the blinds here and on the bathroom ceiling. There may be some

bacteria under the stove as it probably hasnt beem cleaned for years, there was

also mould growing in a teapot. One these are all gone cant we remedoate or is

it just not possible for the very sensitive? How is remediation done, ozone,

fogging sprays?? There is a company here in australia that claim to be able to

eradicate mould with a fogging spray that is harmless. A local distributer gave

me a free sample and the msds and i do not seem to react to it.

>

> I think its also known as this:

>

> http://www.21stglobal.com/scientific.htm

>

> Decon-Shield comes in concentrate used as hyper-wetting hog or spray, destroys

all BW organisms including  

> weapons grade anthrax, and all other single celled organisms such as Golden

Staph, Klebsiella, fungi, and viruses, etc., via a 

> minute positive charge

>

> They charge about 180 to do a house and say they have a 99% success rate.

Though of course im not a routine case..

>

> There is also and ausyralian company who use  tea tree oil for hvacs,

thoughts? We dont have air con but was thinking of using the tea tree oil when i

buy a used car just to be on the safe side.

>

> http://www.gelair.com.au/

>

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Tug, I am so pleased to hear you are doing well at your Sisters......keep

trusting God He will help you!  About you ozoning your truck?  Was it for

mold? 

If so, did it kill the mold?  How long did you have it on?  A commercial

machine?  Did it kill the mold only?  How about the mycotoxins?  I have not

found research to support that ozone kills mycotoxins.  I have used ozone and

seen it kill mold when it was in direct contact.  So, I think ozone kills mold

although it seems hard to get enough ozone in hard to get to areas.  Another

?--did you have the car A/C running when the ozonator was on?

 

Thanks, Diane

________________________________

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 1:23:32 PM

Subject: [] Re: Decon-shield. Remediation of cross contaminated

house?

 

Ive had my truck ozoned and fogged and the ozone even after being hepa vacuumed

3 times like to kill me. At the time it was the middle of December, the effects

from the ozone were so bad I had to drive around with my windows rolled all the

way done. The temperature at the time was in the low 20's. Fogging it wasn't so

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Hi Tug,

is the ladies name from australia leslie also? This leslie...me..talking about

your clothes washed with 1 cup ammonia, is leslie...I live in SC.

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Subject: [] Re: Decon-shield. Remediation of cross contaminated

house?

Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 1:23 PM

Ive had my truck ozoned and fogged and the ozone even after being hepa vacuumed

3 times like to kill me. At the time it was the middle of December, the effects

from the ozone were so bad I had to drive around with my windows rolled all the

way done. The temperature at the time was in the low 20's. Fogging it wasn't so

bad but but the back of my neck hurt for months and again had to drive around

with my windows rolled down but at this time it was the middle of March so the

temperature ranged between 30 & 40 degrees fahrenheit which made it more

tolerable.

you you have to keep in mind that if a company in Australia had a fool

proof method of ridding mold knowing a dollar can be made it wouldnt take long

for some American company to see the potential and would start using that

process over here. Scammers come in all shapes and sizes make sure you do your

homework before you give anyone any money. And a 99% success rate.... please.

> Ok so seems ive definately cross contaminated as there is a spot next to the

heater where i always sit that i now get symptoms at, mainly my sinuses are

irritated, itchy crawling skin, sore tonsils, itchy eues. So if contaminated

houses can

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D, I didnt have any mold in my truck it was ozoned for cross contamination. The

day I had it done the truck sat with the windows open for two days but when we

got into drive it we went to the movies and both me and my ex g'f were itching

like crazy, it was so bad we had to leave the movie. For months when I'd get

into the truck the back of my neck would hurt but within 5 minutes of getting

out of the truck the pain would go away.

>

> Tug, I am so pleased to hear you are doing well at your Sisters......keep

> trusting God He will help you! About you ozoning your truck? Was it for

mold?Â

> If so, did it kill the mold? How long did you have it on? A commercial

> machine? Did it kill the mold only? How about the mycotoxins? I have not

> found research to support that ozone kills mycotoxins. I have used ozone and

> seen it kill mold when it was in direct contact. So, I think ozone kills

mold

> although it seems hard to get enough ozone in hard to get to areas. Another

> ?--did you have the car A/C running when the ozonator was on?

> Â

> Thanks, Diane

>

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Tug, so what was in your truck to cause the itching?  Mycotoxins?  And did the

ozone take care of it? Diane

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From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:44:45 PM

Subject: [] Re: Decon-shield. Remediation of cross contaminated

house?

 

D, I didnt have any mold in my truck it was ozoned for cross contamination. The

day I had it done the truck sat with the windows open for two days but when we

got into drive it we went to the movies and both me and my ex g'f were itching

like crazy, it was so bad we had to leave the movie. For months when I'd get

into the truck the back of my neck would hurt but within 5 minutes of getting

out of the truck the pain would go away.

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