Re: [WARNING: MESSAGE ENCRYPTED]Re: Re: aciclovir

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No Idea, I think because Natasa put a attachment on the first one maybe??

Mx

Wow thank you Joanne!

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Joanne, you beat me to it. Just posted the same thing. =) That was an interesting find, though...Nina To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:25 AM Subject: [WARNING: MESSAGE ENCRYPTED]Re: Re:

aciclovir

This is an interesting study showing that ibuprofen is effective against yeast, especially when combined with fluconazole.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966233 Joanne--- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , "neno@..." wrote:>> This guy claims ibuprofen was central to his son's recovery ­ they did> other things too (valtex, ldn) but he swears by ibuprofen. There could be> some details somewhere on the site, also in attachment> https://www.stopcallingitautism.org/autism.html> > Natasa > > > Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe "> Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:42:28 -0000> To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe "> Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

Subject: Re: aciclovir> > > > > > > Hi Kim, yes it really helped and still helps. The reason I think it helped> (but I have no possible way of proving it, and I'm not a doc but I checked> it with ) is because we are dealing with viral infection of the brain> at a chronic level.> > Long term ibuprofen is not good for people, research saying very long term> use contributes to the bacteria which results in ulcers, but to help with> these symptoms this worked and still works. I don't plan to use it for> months on end, or years, but on an ad-hoc basis because I have to help J not> be in distress.> > Eileen x> > > > >> > > > > > Hi za,> > > Hope Natasa is watching as well.> > > > > > The first time we did Valtrex, we saw side effects in the first week on day> 5. Side effects for us were: head-pressing against us and hard surfaces (like> head banging, to relieve inflammation) and stupidly massive yeast. Lots of> stimming, lining up, to cope with extra stress on the body. This time, with> acyclovir, we haven't had any. All we've seen is great

gains. We have learned> to a certain extent from the first time.> > > > > > You might not get any side effects at all but most of us do.> > > > > > In a nutshell, to avoid the side-effects, i.e. to keep the extra stress on> the body in control which might result from anti-viral use, you need to:> > > > > > Increase your yeast protocol, after observation of first week.> > > We upped probiotics at night. We use CP1 and Candex as it doesn't contain> Streptococcus Thermophilis which for some reason has negative impact on PANDAS> kids. We haven't used as much Candex as we used to, but are working it back in> again (remember we totally came off biomed for a while because we hadn't had a> break for six years).> > > > > > You need to manage inflammation - consider Ibuprofen. Not good for kids>

with gut issues, granted, but you are looking at bigger picture and not long> term use. We did Valtrex a few years ago which is six times more bioavailable> than Acyclovir. We had massive stimming (we needed prescription yeast killers> and at that point had to fight for them because this was all new) and pressing> head against surfaces to relieve pain. This time on Acyclovir, we did a week of> regular ibuprofen at the beginning of the protocol. Then occasional doses if> needed on the odd rough day. This worked for us. We didn't get the head> pressing and all the stims. If we had a really bad moment we'd put it in again,> but not regularly. Also you could up the fish oils. That helps as well. You> could also up fish oil protocol, that has helped here.> > > > > > Manage the strep. Another thing is we have got J on Zithro at the same time> as the

anti-viral. This won't make it necessarily what DG will prescribe for> Eddie because we had massive strep titres. It depends. But Zithro has an> overall anti-inflammatory effect on the body. So this begs question, did J avoid> side-effects this time because of Zithro or Ibuprofen, because he was on both?> I think Ibuprofen helps because when he was on Zithro alone for strep, he still> had inflammation so we needed something extra, particularly at the start. It is> not something I want long term, but it is helping right now, along with the rest> of the world I'm looking for more healthy ways.> > > > > > Getting the strep/tics under control before you start antivirals seems to> have helped this time. We didn't know strep was rampant the first time we did> Valtrex.> > > > > > To me, if you have viral and strep at same time, you are going

to battle> inflammation and if you can do that you are on a winner. Its so much better for> us this time. Whatever you do, don't suddenly stop the anti-virals but I guess> has told you that.> > > > > > Liver and Kidney Support. Essential to clear systemic prescription drugs> through the system (and viruses). I use Liv-detox but am considering moving to> other supps.> > > > > > Methylation. You need to make sure the MB12/folinic is in place, but if the> negative effects are too much at the start, I would do that week 2/3 if not> established already or you won't know what's causing what.> > > > > > Managing coming off anti-virals eventually - up your strep protocol. When> viruses move out we have found in comes Strep.> > > > > > Isobel Ramsey gave me a tip about massaging encense

oil (in a carrier)> into the feet at night, this and some music helps calm as well, so think> about what calms Eddie as well as supps to avoid the storm.> > > > > > If things get really awful, pick up the phone to 's sec , and he> will get back to you usually by the end of the day if its an emergency.> > > > > > Have you got some Melatonin to help with the sleep, is Eddie all right on> that?> > > > > > Please ask if I've been unclear and you want me to answer anything in more> details.> > > > > > Much love to you and Eddie> > > Things have got so much better in all areas here having braved this one out> for a while.> > > > > > Eil x> > >> >>