Re: mold growth in air condition

October 28, 2010

First, is the fogging product EPA registered?

If it is there is still one more requirement - the label MUST say it can be

fogged and it MUST say it can be used in ducts. All 3 must be true. If not then

Federal law is being violated she h should get the landlords attention.

Second, they won't fog the whole house. Just the ducts. And it should be when

the vacuum is pulling air from the house into the duct and then directly

exhausted outside.

Third, ammonium chloride is not the same as ammonia that comes from a bottle.

Fourth, they should be following either the NADCA standard or the ANSI-ACCA duct

restoration standard.

None of this means the landlord will pay attention but hopefully he will.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] mold growth in air condition

Another mold problem.

The air condition company found at an inspection that there is mold in the AC.

Air handler has water damage, insulation was wet ...

They want to fog the ducts with an ammonia chloride (I have the details,just

don't find the paper at the moment)and they want to build a UV light in.

The landlord agreed on this.

I have extreme MCS and think if they fog with ammonia I have to move.

Would be thankful for any ideas and if there are alternatives to this

chemical treatment.

October 29, 2010

I had the same problem if you check the photos section you can see a picture of

the mold on the coils. When they first detected the mold the supervisor of the

air duct cleaning service said if theres mold in the a/c coils and the furnace

or the a/c have been turned on its to late the damage is already done. The air

has been circulated through the coils and spores have been distributed

throughout the house. I was hoping he was wrong but deep down I knew he was

right, I moved out 10 days ago and am looking for a safe place to live at this

very moment.

Im not going to get into a long drawn out conversation about what it may or may

not be that caused me to move out. The fact is there was mold in the a/c coils,

air passed through the coils when the a/c was turned on and the mold that was

growing released mold spores that were dispersed throughout the house

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> Another mold problem.

>

> The air condition company found at an inspection that there is mold in the AC.

Air handler has water damage, insulation was wet ...

>

> They want to fog the ducts with an ammonia chloride (I have the details,just

don't find the paper at the moment)and they want to build a UV light in.

> The landlord agreed on this.

>

> I have extreme MCS and think if they fog with ammonia I have to move.

>

> Would be thankful for any ideas and if there are alternatives to this

> chemical treatment.

>

October 30, 2010

i don't think fiberglass should ever be used in air system! i think some day

will be considered like asbestos.

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> I long ago worked in a building with mold in the AC. It was a 25 year old

system with inadequate dehumidification and contained fiberglass insulation in

the ducts. That was the source of my respiratory problems, the reason I took

early retirement at 54. Because my employer was too cheap to fix the problem

correctly, my contaminated system was fogged several times with chlorine

dioxide, pr

October 30, 2010

When you are mold/chemical sensitive, what role does asbestos play in all of

this?? There was plenty of asbestos in my school, in addition to mold.

Kathi

> >

> > I long ago worked in a building with mold in the AC. It was a 25 year old

system with inadequate dehumidification and contained fiberglass insulation in

the ducts. That was the source of my respiratory problems, the reason I took

early retirement at 54. Because my employer was too cheap to fix the problem

correctly, my contaminated system was fogged several times with chlorine

dioxide, pr

>

October 30, 2010

Asbestos can cause lung disease from fibrosis (asbestosis) through cancers,

particularly mesothelioma. Its presence would add to the respiratory toxicity

of the environment.

[] Re: mold growth in air condition

When you are mold/chemical sensitive, what role does asbestos play in all of

this?? There was plenty of asbestos in my school, in addition to mold.

Kathi

> >

> > I long ago worked in a building with mold in the AC. It was a 25 year old

system with inadequate dehumidification and contained fiberglass insulation in

the ducts. That was the source of my respiratory problems, the reason I took

early retirement at 54. Because my employer was too cheap to fix the problem

correctly, my contaminated system was fogged several times with chlorine

dioxide, pr

>

October 31, 2010

Yes, I am well aware of the asbestos relationship with mesothelioma. BUT could

there be something else in the school environment of mold and asbestos that may

be deathly to a multisusceptible person? My first school was definitely mold and

asbestos and I got better with proper treatment and leaving the building.

The second school room in the basement got me sick and the person that used it

after me got sick as well. She is better once she left the room. I saw water

marks in the corner of one wall and there was a pipe wrapped in something in the

closet ( asbestos maybe) It wasn't so obvious there. I am looking at all

possibilities

and the school came back with " there is a legal level of asbestos " when we

asked that they test for mold. They never did any testing. It makes me question

whether they even did testing in the first building where 6 people died from

various cancers and others are still sick?????

Is asbestos considered chemical exposure when exposed??? I wasn't sure of that

thought and needed to ask.

Kathi

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

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> Asbestos can cause lung disease from fibrosis (asbestosis) through cancers,

particularly mesothelioma. Its presence would add to the respiratory toxicity

of the environment.

>

October 31, 2010

Asbestos is a mineral. It is considered a toxic exposure, but not one related to

volatile compounds and/or fungi/bacteria. I usually get involved in legal

cases, therefore the detailed analysis of the environment is very important for

these cases. Also, such an analysis gives us more information on the

contamination that you are being exposed to.