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Your recent posting states there are factories where people work 7 days a

week. Do you really know of any? I have not heard of anywhere in the USA

where this has happened in several decades.

When everywhere I look there are more jobs than people to fill them, it seems

unlikely anyone would work 7 days a week unless they wanted to. i.e., they

were earning extra pay at overtime rates. Recently I have read of attractive

incentives businesses are having to pay to keep employees from leaving for

better jobs.

Perhaps you are thinking of people who can't make it in the workforce. These

people, like the poor will always be with us. Always have been. But here of

course you are talking about charity, not work relations, or treatment of

medical disorders, which is what the support group is about.

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Yes, I've heard that. Besides that, candida also releases formaldehyde into

our body. Why would we want to pollute it with more cancer-causing

substances???

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<< Does everyone know that aspertame converts to formaldehyde in the body?

That's why we shouldn't drink it.

With love,

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<< Does everyone know that aspertame converts to formaldehyde in the body?

That's why we shouldn't drink it. >>

I believe that you have to drink it nonstop (like 100 cans of soda pop a day)

and in 100 degree F weather for it to develop formaldehyde. It's been years

since I read that, so I hope I have my fact straight.

Love,

:)

2000/8/5 5:53:17 pm EST

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" I believe that you have to drink it nonstop (like 100 cans

of soda pop a day)

and in 100 degree F weather for it to develop formaldehyde.

It's been years

since I read that, so I hope I have my fact straight. "

Hi All,

That is just Corporate Propaganda. All artificial

sweeteners contain poisons, aspartame being the most toxic.

Quoted from

http://www.tiac.net/users/mgold/aspartame/aspart.p3

" The truth about aspartame's toxicity is far different than

what the NutraSweet Company would have your readers believe.

In February of 1994, the U.S. Department of Health and Human

Services released the listing of adverse reactions reported

to the FDA (DHHS 1994). Aspartame accounted for more than

75% of all adverse reactions reported to the FDA's Adverse

Reaction Monitoring System (ARMS). Many reactions to

aspartame were very serious including seizures and death.

Other reactions reported included:

Headaches/Migraines Dizziness

Joint Pain Nausea

Numbness Muscle spasms

Weight gain Rashes

Depression Fatigue

Irritability Tachycardia

Insomnia Vision Loss

Hearing Loss Heart palpitations

Breathing difficulties Anxiety attacks

Slurred Speech Loss of taste

Tinnitus Vertigo

Memory loss "

--------------------

And another:

Subject: Aspartame Disease!

WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE and the MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS

FOUNDATION & FDA

IS SUING FOR COLLUSION WITH MONSANTO.

Article written by Betty i

I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD

ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on

ASPARTAME: Marketed as 'NutraSweet,' 'Equal,' and

'Spoonful. " ' In the

keynote address by the EPA, they announced that there was an

epidemic of

multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, and they did not

understand what

toxin was causing this to be rampant across the United

States. I explained I

was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the

wood alcohol in

ASPARTAME CONVERTS TO FROMALDEHYDE and then to formic acid,

which in turn

causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found

in the sting of

fire ants.) The methanol toxicity mimics multiple sclerosis;

thus, people

were being diagnosed with having multiple sclerosis in

error. The multiple

sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity

is.

in the case of systemic lupus, we are finding it has become

almost as

rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially Diet Coke and Diet

Pepsi drinkers.

Also, with methanol toxicity, the victims usually drink

three to four 12 oz.

cans of them per day, some even more. In the cases of

systemic lupus, which

is triggered by ASPARTAME, the victim usually does not know

that aspartame

is the culprit. The victim continues its use aggravating the

lupus to such a

degree, that sometimes it becomes life threatening. When we

get people off

the aspartame, those with systemic lupus usually become

asymptotic.

Unfortunately, we cannot reverse this disease.

On the other hand, in the case of those diagnosed with

Multiple Sclerosis,

(when in reality, the disease is methanol toxicity), most of

the symptoms

disappear. We have seen cases where their vision has

returned and even

their hearing has returned. This also applies to cases of

tinnitus. During

a lecture I said " If you are using ASPARTAME [NutraSweet,

Equal,

Spoonful,etc.] and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms,

spasms, shooting

pains,numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness,

headaches,

tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred

speech, blurred

vision, or memory loss, you probably have ASPARTAME

DISEASE! " People were

jumping up during the lecture saying, " I've got this. Is it

reversible? " It

is rampant. Some of the speakers at my lecture even were

suffering from

these symptoms. In one lecture attended by the Ambassador

of Uganda, he

told us that their sugar

industry is adding aspartame! He continued by saying that

one of the

industry leader's son could no longer walk due in part to

product usage! We

have a very serious problem. Even a stranger came up to Dr.

Espisto, (one

of my speakers) and myself and said, " Could you tell me why

so many people

seem to be coming down with MS? " During a visit to a

hospice, a nurse aid

that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke drinkers,

had all been

diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence.

Here is the problem.

There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was

originally included as a sweetener in 100 different

products. Since this

initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings,

but to no avail.

Nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have

very deep pockets.

Now there are over 5,000 products containing this chemical,

and the PATIENT

HAS EXPIRED!!!!

At the time of this first hearing, people were going blind.

The methanol in

the Aspartame converts to formaldehyde in the retina of the

eye.

FORMALDEHYDE is grouped in the same class of drugs as

cyanide and arsenic -

DEADLY POISONS!!! Unfortunately, it just takes longer to

quietly kill, but

it is killing people and causing all kinds of neurological

problems.

Aspartame changes the brain's chemistry. It is the reason

for severe

seizures. This drug changes the dopamine level in the brain.

Imagine what

this drug does to patients suffering from Parkinson's

Disease. This drug

also causes birth defects. There is absolutely no reason to

take this

product.

It is NOT A DIET PRODUCT!

The Congressional record said, " It makes you crave

Carbohydrates and will make you FAT. " Dr. stated

that when he got

patients off aspartame, their average weight loss was 19

pounds per person.

The formaldehyde stores in the fat cells, particularly in

the hips and

thighs.

Aspartame is especially deadly for diabetics. All physicians

know what wood

alcohol will do to a diabetic. We find that physicians

believe that they

have patients with retinopathy, when in fact, it is caused

by the

aspartame.The aspartame keeps the blood sugar level out of

control, causing

many patients to go into a coma. Unfortunately, many have

died.

People were telling us at the conference of the American

College of

Physicians, that they had relatives that switched from

saccharin to an

aspartame product and how that relative had eventually gone

into a coma.

Their physicians could not get the blood

sugar levels under control. Thus, the patients suffered

acute memory loss

and eventually coma and death.

Memory loss is due to the fact that aspartic acid and

phenylalanine are

neurotoxic without the other amino acids found in protein.

Thus it goes past

the blood brain barrier and deteriorates the neurons of the

brain.

Dr. Blaylock, neurosurgeon, said, " The ingredients

stimulates the

neurons of the brain to death, causing brain damage of

varying degrees.

Dr. Blaylock has written a book entitled " EXCITOTOXINS: THE

TASTE THAT

KILLS "

(Health Press 1-800-643-2665).

Dr. H. J. , diabetic specialist and world expert on

aspartame

poisoning, has also written a book entitled " DEFENSE AGAINST

ALZHEIMER'S

DISEASE " (1-800-814-9800).

Dr. tells how aspartame poisoning is escalating

Alzheimer's Disease,

and indeed it is. As the hospice nurse told me, women are

being admitted at

30 years of age with Alzheimer's Disease.

Dr. Blaylock and Dr. will be writing a position

paper with some case

histories and will post it on the Internet.

According to the Conference of the American College of

Physicians, " We are

talking about a plague of neurological diseases caused by

this deadly

poison. " Dr. realized what was happening when

aspartame was first

marketed. He said, " His diabetic patients presented memory

loss, confusion,

and severe vision loss. " At the Conference of the American

College of

Physicians, doctors admitted that they did not know. They

had wondered why

seizures were rampant (the phenylalanine in aspartame breaks

down the

seizure

threshold and depletes serotonin, which causes manic

depression, panic

attacks, rage and violence).

Just before the Conference, I received a fax from Norway,

asking for a

possible antidote for this poison because they are

experiencing so many

problems in their country. This " poison " is now available

in 90 PLUS

countries worldwide. fortunately, we had speakers and

ambassadors at the

Conference from different nations who have pledged their

help. We ask that

you help too. Print this article out and warn everyone you

know. Take

anything that contains aspartame back to the store. Take the

" NO ASPARTAME

TEST " and send us your case history. I assure you that

MONSANTO, the creator

of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is. They fund the American

Association,

American Dietetic Association Congress, and the Conference

of the American

College of Physicians. The New York Times, November 15,

1996, ran an article

on how the American Dietetic Association takes money from

the food industry

to endorse their products. Therefore, they cannot criticize

any additives or

tell about their link to MONSANTO.

How bad is this?

We told a mother who had a child on NutraSweet to get off

the product. The

child was having grand mal seizures every day. The mother

called her

physician, who called the ADA, who told the doctor not to

take the child off

the NutraSweet. We are still trying to convince the mother

that the

Aspartame is causing the seizures. Every time we get someone

off of

aspartame, the seizures stop. If the baby dies, you know

whose fault it is,

and what we are up against.

There are 92 documented symptoms of aspartame, from coma to

death. The

majority of them are all neurological, because the aspartame

destroys the

nervous system. Aspartame Disease is partially the cause to

what is behind

some of the mystery of the Desert Storm health problems. The

burning tongue

and other problems discussed in over 60 cases can be

directly related to the

consumption of an Aspartame product. Several thousand

pallets of diet drinks

were shipped to the Desert Storm troops. (Remember heat can

liberate the

methanol from the aspartame at 86 degrees F.) Diet drinks

sat in the 120

degree F Arabian sun for weeks at a time on pallets. The

servicemen and

women drank them all day long. All of their symptoms are

identical to

aspartame poisoning.

Dr. says consuming Aspartame at the time of

conception can cause

birth defects. " According to Dr. Louis Elsas, Pediatrician

and Professor of

Genetics, at Emory University, in his testimony before

Congress. The

phenylalanine concentrates in the placenta, causing mental

retardation. In

the original lab tests, animals developed brain tumors,

phenylalanine breaks

down into DXP, a brain tumor agent.) When Dr. Espisto was

lecturing on

aspartame, one physician in the audience, a neurosurgeon,

said, " When they

remove brain tumors, they have found high levels of

aspartame in them. "

STEVIA,

a sweet food, NOT AN ADDITIVE, which helps in the

metabolism of sugar,

which would be ideal for diabetics, has not been approved as

a dietary

supplement by the FDA for years, the FDA has outlawed this

sweet food

because of their loyalty to MONSANTO. If it says " SUGAR

FREE " on the label -

DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

Senator Hetzenbaum wrote a bill that would have

warned all infants,

pregnant mothers and children of the dangers of aspartame.

The bill would

have also instituted independent studies on the problems

existing in the

population (seizures, changes in brain chemistry, changes

inneurological and

behavioral symptoms). It was killed by the powerful drug and

chemical

lobbies, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an

unsuspecting

public. Since the Conference of the American College of

Physicians, we hope

to have the help of several world leaders. Again, please

help us, too.

There are a lot of people out there who must be warned,

please let them know

this information.

--------------------

There's more if this is not enough.

Gloria

Re: Aspertame

In a message dated 08/04/2000 9:17:53 AM Eastern Daylight

Time,

kj-mj@... writes:

<< Does everyone know that aspertame converts to

formaldehyde in the body?

That's why we shouldn't drink it. >>

I believe that you have to drink it nonstop (like 100 cans

of soda pop a day)

and in 100 degree F weather for it to develop formaldehyde.

It's been years

since I read that, so I hope I have my fact straight.

Love,

:)

2000/8/5 5:53:17 pm EST

~~~

Some people come into our lives and quickly go

Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts and souls

Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

Of Love and Respect on our hearts

And we are never, ever the same.

(^..^)~ (^..^)~ (^..^)~ (^..^)~ (^..^)~

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As some of you know, I had a sore throat recently and went to my

chemists' shop to research what I could take for it. He had twenty

different types of medicine for throats. 19 contained a lot of sugar.

the last was for diabetics and contained aspartame.

The chemist saw me browsing and came up to me saying this one is the

most popular. I had a look at it and the list of ingredients went like

this: " sugar, sucrose, dextrose, honey, aspartame. " I nearly screamed.

Lee

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In a message dated 8/5/00 10:32:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Lee@... writes:

<< I had a sore throat recently >>

Lee and list,

For sore throat, gargle with acidophilus! It knocks it right out. You can get

it in powder form, and just add a little water and gargle away!

Donna

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Lyn...glad you are safe and I hope well...you guys are on the edges of

tornado alley aren't you? Well the thunderstorms are arriving in Ohio

now and I hope the tornados don't follow.

I'm belaboring this because I ran across this topic a month or so ago.

It seems that every sugar substitute has gotten bad raps since they were

introduced and for no real reason other than they may have been started

by the sugar institute or some other organization with a vested interest

.. Tests after tests have been run by independent scientific

organizations and there has been absolutely no proof that ANY of the

sugar substitutes cause dreadful conditions or diseases.....yet there

persists dialogue which tells of them causing MS or cancer or some such

problem. There has never been one documente case where this has been

proved so. Most of the rap against these products have been done by word

of mouth until it is now taken as fact...which is just not the case....

I hope no one gets me wrong...I'm not touting these items.... I don't

even use any that I know of since they always leave me with an after

taste and I like real things.

It's just that we seem to latch on to this product or that med etc. to

the exclusion of getting along with our lives.....we've got to stop

worrying so much about everything and get on with living. Worry doesn't

change a thing and most are unfounded...most of us here will live to be

in our 80s which is more than enough time to enjoy what God has

supplied..

I personally have a life expectancy of less than 10 yrs. but i don't

plan on worrying myself into only 6 or 7. Seek serenity we'll live

longer.

love jerry

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I agree with Jerry. A little bit of sugar (the real thing) is better than a lot of fake sugar, whatever it is. Moderation in all things!

Marty

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Lyn...glad you are safe and I hope well...you guys are on the edges oftornado alley aren't you? Well the thunderstorms are arriving in Ohionow and I hope the tornados don't follow. I'm belaboring this because I ran across this topic a month or so ago.It seems that every sugar substitute has gotten bad raps since they wereintroduced and for no real reason other than they may have been startedby the sugar institute or some other organization with a vested interest. Tests after tests have been run by independent scientificorganizations and there has been absolutely no proof that ANY of thesugar substitutes cause dreadful conditions or diseases.....yet therepersists dialogue which tells of them causing MS or cancer or some suchproblem. There has never been one documente case where this has beenproved so. Most of the rap against these products have been done by wordof mouth until it is now taken as fact...which is just not the case....I hope no one gets me wrong...I'm not touting these items.... I don'teven use any that I know of since they always leave me with an aftertaste and I like real things.It's just that we seem to latch on to this product or that med etc. tothe exclusion of getting along with our lives.....we've got to stopworrying so much about everything and get on with living. Worry doesn'tchange a thing and most are unfounded...most of us here will live to bein our 80s which is more than enough time to enjoy what God hassupplied..I personally have a life expectancy of less than 10 yrs. but i don'tplan on worrying myself into only 6 or 7. Seek serenity we'll livelonger.love jerry

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