Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi, I have the 3M silicone mask in a size MED (doesn't stink like the plastic one) the SML hits into my nose which I don't consider abnormally large. The cartridge is a " Multi Gas/Vapor Cartridge/ [ with a] P100 filter. P100 being the best. The cartridge # is 60926. I need it when I venture out because of fragrance. It's hot pink as if I don't stand out enough :-/ It filters all vapors which I presume is fine enough to filter anything. I get it from a place called Lab Safety Supply 800 356-0783 They're real nice & helped me decide on this filter. Mold or other stuff IMHO you might as well go with the best filter anyway. I couldn't find my mask on the site but found this one that looks good too. It's a silcone one by AO Safety http://www.labsafety.com/search/silicone+respirator/24499971/88976S/?GoButton=Go\ & isredirect=true Might be better as the cartridge is round (smaller) & probably doesn't obstruct your line of vision like the triangular ones that fit my 3M. I use the I Can Breathe refills to line the mask. It serves 2 purposes- the mask doesn't get wet from condensation & it filters even more out...including any materials outgassing from the mask. > > We need a real, working solution for those of us stuck in moldy sick-buildings. > > I'm emailing the people at http://www.icanbreathe.com/organic.htm > > There are sleeping masks for the cpap and bipap machine, but I found no out-breath valve, so I'm not sure how well it would work. They are expensive. This options seems unneccissary now, after discovering the following 3M option: > > There are respirators with replacable cartridges. These things can filter out paint fumes. How long does a cartridge last? How expensive is a cartridge? Which type of cartridge is adequate? These are the questions we need answered. Is HEPA required? How small are the dangerous mold particulates? > > " Most mold is > 2.5 microns in size. " > HEPA filters out .3 microns. > > " Respirable dust is 1.0 - 5.0 microns in size and able to penetrate deep into the respiratory system, past the body's cilia, mucous and natural defense mechanisms. Inhalable dust is bigger, around 10 microns in particle size, enters the body, but gets trapped by the bodies natural filtering mechanisms in the nose, throat and upper respiratory tract. For this atmospheric dust, you need filtration capable of capturing the smallest particles, either electrostatic precipitators (ESP), high quality media or HEPA filters. " > http://www.dustcollectorexperts.com/filters/ > > > " mold puts out organic vapors that are toxic & smelly & need carbon to filter out " > 3m 2097 should do. > http://store.pksafety.net/noname.html > > > " a set has lasted him 3 days while working w/ wood " > http://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Filter-2097-07184/product-reviews/B002XI6YC\ U/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8 & showViewpoints=1 > > 2 cartridges for $6.25 > http://www.google.com/products?q=3m+2097+cartridge & scoring=p > > 1 facepiece for $9.07 > http://www.google.com/products?q=3m+6000 & scoring=p & show=dd & sa=N & lnk=next & start=2\ 0 > > This is affordable, and is " Mold Remediation " class. I hope this is available at Lowe's or Home Depot. It aught to be. > > I'm going to buy one today if I find it. > > If anyone else finds something that works, let me know. > > What are the long-term consequences of sleeping w/ these things on? If the cartridge clogs overnight and becomes unbreathable, will I wake up? What sort of valve must I install to detect and prevent this sort of thing from happening? Perhaps some sort of air-pressure detection device that opens a port to outside air when the pressure gets too high. Perhaps the pressure is not likely to change that much overnight. (experiment at your own risk) > > Is the plastic for the face-piece going to cause allergic-reaction? It probably has BPA, but perhaps cotton can be fitted around the straps, but not the seal. Probably a trade-off worth trying. Maybe some bee's wax can seal it in. Will try to keep you updated on my progress w/ this device. Breathing the air in this house gives me a constant sore-throat. I will know if it works. Sleeping in a tent, many feet from this house makes the soreness go away overnight. Now I'm coughing w/ lots of phlem. It's time to take action that might reveal helpful info for those on here. > > note: all quotes are paraphrases > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 You can't sleep in this, can you?? > > > > We need a real, working solution for those of us stuck in moldy sick-buildings. > > > > I'm emailing the people at http://www.icanbreathe.com/organic.htm > > > > There are sleeping masks for the cpap and bipap machine, but I found no out-breath valve, so I'm not sure how well it would work. They are expensive. This options seems unneccissary now, after discovering the following 3M option: > > > > There are respirators with replacable cartridges. These things can filter out paint fumes. How long does a cartridge last? How expensive is a cartridge? Which type of cartridge is adequate? These are the questions we need answered. Is HEPA required? How small are the dangerous mold particulates? > > > > " Most mold is > 2.5 microns in size. " > > HEPA filters out .3 microns. > > > > " Respirable dust is 1.0 - 5.0 microns in size and able to penetrate deep into the respiratory system, past the body's cilia, mucous and natural defense mechanisms. Inhalable dust is bigger, around 10 microns in particle size, enters the body, but gets trapped by the bodies natural filtering mechanisms in the nose, throat and upper respiratory tract. For this atmospheric dust, you need filtration capable of capturing the smallest particles, either electrostatic precipitators (ESP), high quality media or HEPA filters. " > > http://www.dustcollectorexperts.com/filters/ > > > > > > " mold puts out organic vapors that are toxic & smelly & need carbon to filter out " > > 3m 2097 should do. > > http://store.pksafety.net/noname.html > > > > > > " a set has lasted him 3 days while working w/ wood " > > http://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Filter-2097-07184/product-reviews/B002XI6YC\ U/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8 & showViewpoints=1 > > > > 2 cartridges for $6.25 > > http://www.google.com/products?q=3m+2097+cartridge & scoring=p > > > > 1 facepiece for $9.07 > > http://www.google.com/products?q=3m+6000 & scoring=p & show=dd & sa=N & lnk=next & start=2\ 0 > > > > This is affordable, and is " Mold Remediation " class. I hope this is available at Lowe's or Home Depot. It aught to be. > > > > I'm going to buy one today if I find it. > > > > If anyone else finds something that works, let me know. > > > > What are the long-term consequences of sleeping w/ these things on? If the cartridge clogs overnight and becomes unbreathable, will I wake up? What sort of valve must I install to detect and prevent this sort of thing from happening? Perhaps some sort of air-pressure detection device that opens a port to outside air when the pressure gets too high. Perhaps the pressure is not likely to change that much overnight. (experiment at your own risk) > > > > Is the plastic for the face-piece going to cause allergic-reaction? It probably has BPA, but perhaps cotton can be fitted around the straps, but not the seal. Probably a trade-off worth trying. Maybe some bee's wax can seal it in. Will try to keep you updated on my progress w/ this device. Breathing the air in this house gives me a constant sore-throat. I will know if it works. Sleeping in a tent, many feet from this house makes the soreness go away overnight. Now I'm coughing w/ lots of phlem. It's time to take action that might reveal helpful info for those on here. > > > > note: all quotes are paraphrases > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 It's been done. I haven't. The most diffucult thing I'v encountered with it is heavy physical labor...moving out of a moldy house. I got dizzy from the lack of oxygen. I've worn it long periods - sitting still in a library for instance. There were times when I really didn't feel bad but felt better after the mask was on for awhile. > > > > Hi, > > I have the 3M silicone mask in a size MED (doesn't stink like the plastic one) the SML hits into my nose which I don't consider abnormally large. The cartridge is a " Multi Gas/Vapor Cartridge/ > > [ with a] P100 filter. P100 being the best. The cartridge # is 60926. I need it when I venture out because of fragrance. It's hot pink as if I don't stand out enough :-/ It filters all vapors which I presume is fine enough to filter anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 I bought the 3M mask & cartridges for $40 at (Home Depot?). I put it on and could smell a lot of fumes off-gassing from the plastic! What garbage! There's no way I wouls sleep with that crap on. I'd have to be very desperate. My throat remained hard and sore even w/ it on for a few hours. I just took it off and left it. I hope it off-gasses quickly so it can be usable. 3M needs to get their stuff together. That's rediculous. > > We need a real, working solution for those of us stuck in moldy sick-buildings. > > I'm emailing the people at http://www.icanbreathe.com/organic.htm > > There are sleeping masks for the cpap and bipap machine, but I found no out-breath valve, so I'm not sure how well it would work. They are expensive. This options seems unneccissary now, after discovering the following 3M option: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 That's why I was thrilled to find out they make a silicone one. This is how I used to offgas the plastic one. Put it in the hot sun of summer. It will start to get soft & sweat out the oils in the plastic. Then fill it with baking soda...over & over. > > I bought the 3M mask & cartridges for $40 at (Home Depot?). I put it on and could smell a lot of fumes off-gassing from the plastic! What garbage! There's no way I wouls sleep with that crap on. I'd have to be very desperate. My throat remained hard and sore even w/ it on for a few hours. I just took it off and left it. I hope it off-gasses quickly so it can be usable. 3M needs to get their stuff together. That's rediculous. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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