Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

[Guest guest]

My husband always liked salt and fat.  For me it was and is sugar.   I like

fruits as they have natural sugars in them.  I wish I had liked the Stevia, but

I didn't like the powder.  When I get farther along I'll try a plant and see if

the leaf would be any better for me.  Will be sticking with Splenda until I get

on more greens and sprouts.  If they all tasted like the greens on that turkey

and avocado sandwich, I'd be hurting as that was bitter and nasty tasting.  

Ihope that a vinagarette will make it better when I eat it like a salad. 

 

I'll have to check out the 60 min. on computer.  Thanks.

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 10:12 PM

Subject: RE: 60 Minutes sugar program

 

Yes, I saw it and it's being bandied about on my other newsgroups too,

including my Eat to Live group and my other healthy living group. Sugar is

inherently bad for us, yet as that show indicated, eating it results in the

same response in our brains as cocaine. We eat it, then we want more of it,

and then we become inured pr desensitized to it so we want even more.

Vicious cycle for sure.

I, unfortunately ,do like sweets, but I try to moderate my intake greatly

(like my Avocado chocolate pudding, which I think I may have mentioned on

the group) and watch my intake as much as I can. I definitely know that if

I allow myself some sugar laden concoction, then that's quite capable of

setting me off into almost a binge behavior where I really want more of it

quite soon thereafter.

Good show and I'm glad to see it was on. Here's a link in case anyone

missed it . . . http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n .

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Melody

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:52 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: Crazy Medical question

Did any of you watch the segment on 60 minutes last night about the toxicity

of sugar and products containing sugar? The doctor and scientist on the show

said " Sure causes all diseases and causes cancerous tumors to grow'. Now he

didn't talk about sprouting but he did mention that we all should be eating

NO PROCESSED FOOD at all!!

Anybody see this segment?

Melody

[Guest guest]

Carolyn, not sure that you wouldn't be better off with regular sugar, even as

bad as it is, over the Splenda. Splenda has been banned in Canada and Europe,

per my understanding. It causes headaches, even migraines and has other

deleterious effects on one's health. You may want to Google 'Splenda and side

effects' to get more info. Meanwhile, it may be the best option for you

personally and only you can make that determination. Bottom line is that

everything should be in moderation, especially when it comes to sweet stuff : -

).

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:54 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

My husband always liked salt and fat. For me it was and is sugar. I like

fruits as they have natural sugars in them. I wish I had liked the Stevia, but

I didn't like the powder. When I get farther along I'll try a plant and see if

the leaf would be any better for me. Will be sticking with Splenda until I get

on more greens and sprouts. If they all tasted like the greens on that turkey

and avocado sandwich, I'd be hurting as that was bitter and nasty tasting.

Ihope that a vinagarette will make it better when I eat it like a salad.

I'll have to check out the 60 min. on computer. Thanks.

Carolyn Wilkerson

[Guest guest]

I found a brand of stevia that doesnt have a bad aftertaste..it was introduced

to me as " the Cadillac of Stevia's " LOL  But they were correct!  It's called

NuNaturals Pure Liquid Clear Stevia.  I found some good deals online.. can't

remember where I got it from though, you might google it

 

Patti 

________________________________

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 10:07 PM

Subject: RE: 60 Minutes sugar program

 

Carolyn, not sure that you wouldn't be better off with regular sugar, even as

bad as it is, over the Splenda. Splenda has been banned in Canada and Europe,

per my understanding. It causes headaches, even migraines and has other

deleterious effects on one's health. You may want to Google 'Splenda and side

effects' to get more info. Meanwhile, it may be the best option for you

personally and only you can make that determination. Bottom line is that

everything should be in moderation, especially when it comes to sweet stuff : -

).

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:54 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

My husband always liked salt and fat. For me it was and is sugar. I like

fruits as they have natural sugars in them. I wish I had liked the Stevia, but

I didn't like the powder. When I get farther along I'll try a plant and see if

the leaf would be any better for me. Will be sticking with Splenda until I get

on more greens and sprouts. If they all tasted like the greens on that turkey

and avocado sandwich, I'd be hurting as that was bitter and nasty tasting.

Ihope that a vinagarette will make it better when I eat it like a salad.

I'll have to check out the 60 min. on computer. Thanks.

Carolyn Wilkerson

[Guest guest]

You are sure right about moderation.  I don't take one package of Splenda a

day.  I may add one to a grapefruit.  I do sprinkle one over a salad as the

raspberry vinagarette dressing is not sweet enough for me.   might put some in

apple crisp though I usually put splenda/brown sugar and I need to cut that

down.  I do like icecream at times and can make at home but a lot of trouble. 

I have used splenda a little .  Have used Agave nectar as well.  I don't use

great amounts of it.  I like fruit.  I do use a package of hot chocolate every

so often, not every day.  But I do like chocolate too though I haven't had any

in a while.  I think anything in large amounts will kill us.  But the sugar

video doesn't make it sound like a lot of sugar is needed.  I don't drink

juices very often but try to eat fruit.  If Ihave juice I usually think 3 oz as

a serving.  My grandkids used to drink a huge glass and they thought it was

fine as it was juice and

I was thinking, OH NO, as I knew it had a great deal of fructose in it and was

too much with no fiber. 

I do like to end a meal with sweets though.

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 11:07 PM

Subject: RE: 60 Minutes sugar program

 

Carolyn, not sure that you wouldn't be better off with regular sugar, even as

bad as it is, over the Splenda. Splenda has been banned in Canada and Europe,

per my understanding. It causes headaches, even migraines and has other

deleterious effects on one's health. You may want to Google 'Splenda and side

effects' to get more info. Meanwhile, it may be the best option for you

personally and only you can make that determination. Bottom line is that

everything should be in moderation, especially when it comes to sweet stuff : -

).

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:54 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

My husband always liked salt and fat. For me it was and is sugar. I like fruits

as they have natural sugars in them. I wish I had liked the Stevia, but I didn't

like the powder. When I get farther along I'll try a plant and see if the leaf

would be any better for me. Will be sticking with Splenda until I get on more

greens and sprouts. If they all tasted like the greens on that turkey and

avocado sandwich, I'd be hurting as that was bitter and nasty tasting. Ihope

that a vinagarette will make it better when I eat it like a salad.

I'll have to check out the 60 min. on computer. Thanks.

Carolyn Wilkerson

[Guest guest]

Andresa, you're perfectly correct of course, I remember the book Sugar

Blues. I think one of the differences is that that sort of information is

more in the forefront now, what with Dr. Oz's show and other representatives

of healthy living communicating about lifestyles and how to decrease the bad

and increase the good in our diets.

So, while it is an eye-opener in a sense, it is definitely not a surprise to

me either, and I hope it sways many to cut back, if not eliminate sugar in

their diet. It is highly inflammatory among other things. I work in a

wellness practice and this is something we try to educate our patients about

sugar and its deleterious effects on our bodies.

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of ladybird631017

Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:26 AM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

I didn't find it an eye opener. I actually was a little bemused at the

" surprise " ! Sugar affects the brain the same as an addictive drug.

A year or two ago I read the book " Sugar Blues " which said the same thing.

And it was written back in the 1970's I believe; don't recall exactly, but

it was definitely several decades ago.

Andresa

[Guest guest]

I have switched to stevia and love it. I never did do a lot of sugar but

when I learned about stevia and tried it I found it quite satisfying.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Thea Barbato wrote:

> **

>

>

> Andresa, you're perfectly correct of course, I remember the book Sugar

> Blues. I think one of the differences is that that sort of information is

> more in the forefront now, what with Dr. Oz's show and other

> representatives

> of healthy living communicating about lifestyles and how to decrease the

> bad

> and increase the good in our diets.

>

> So, while it is an eye-opener in a sense, it is definitely not a surprise

> to

> me either, and I hope it sways many to cut back, if not eliminate sugar in

> their diet. It is highly inflammatory among other things. I work in a

> wellness practice and this is something we try to educate our patients

> about

> sugar and its deleterious effects on our bodies.

>

> Thea

>

> From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ]

> On

> Behalf Of ladybird631017

> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:26 AM

> To: sproutpeople

> Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

>

> I didn't find it an eye opener. I actually was a little bemused at the

> " surprise " ! Sugar affects the brain the same as an addictive drug.

>

> A year or two ago I read the book " Sugar Blues " which said the same thing.

> And it was written back in the 1970's I believe; don't recall exactly, but

> it was definitely several decades ago.

>

> Andresa

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do you get it from the store or chop up leaves to use it?

I tried waht was in the store and hated it.  I think it went by name of

truvia.  Even their commercials are lousy.  I couldn't use it and don't

remember if I threw it away or gave to someone else. 

 

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:16 PM

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

 

I have switched to stevia and love it. I never did do a lot of sugar but

when I learned about stevia and tried it I found it quite satisfying.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Thea Barbato wrote:

> **

>

>

> Andresa, you're perfectly correct of course, I remember the book Sugar

> Blues. I think one of the differences is that that sort of information is

> more in the forefront now, what with Dr. Oz's show and other

> representatives

> of healthy living communicating about lifestyles and how to decrease the

> bad

> and increase the good in our diets.

>

> So, while it is an eye-opener in a sense, it is definitely not a surprise

> to

> me either, and I hope it sways many to cut back, if not eliminate sugar in

> their diet. It is highly inflammatory among other things. I work in a

> wellness practice and this is something we try to educate our patients

> about

> sugar and its deleterious effects on our bodies.

>

> Thea

>

> From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ]

> On

> Behalf Of ladybird631017

> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:26 AM

> To: sproutpeople

> Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

>

> I didn't find it an eye opener. I actually was a little bemused at the

> " surprise " ! Sugar affects the brain the same as an addictive drug.

>

> A year or two ago I read the book " Sugar Blues " which said the same thing.

> And it was written back in the 1970's I believe; don't recall exactly, but

> it was definitely several decades ago.

>

> Andresa

>

>

[Guest guest]

The real surprise is that it didn't appear to take a large quantity of sugar to

start making a difference for the negative.  Past research showed that rats

died taking aspartame or something else but they fed them such large quantities

that it would be impossible for a human to consume that amount to their body's

weight.  This was a test with smaller amounts of sugar and it made a difference

and showed up in the brain just as cocaine would. 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:11 PM

Subject: RE: 60 Minutes sugar program

 

Andresa, you're perfectly correct of course, I remember the book Sugar

Blues. I think one of the differences is that that sort of information is

more in the forefront now, what with Dr. Oz's show and other representatives

of healthy living communicating about lifestyles and how to decrease the bad

and increase the good in our diets.

So, while it is an eye-opener in a sense, it is definitely not a surprise to

me either, and I hope it sways many to cut back, if not eliminate sugar in

their diet. It is highly inflammatory among other things. I work in a

wellness practice and this is something we try to educate our patients about

sugar and its deleterious effects on our bodies.

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of ladybird631017

Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:26 AM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

I didn't find it an eye opener. I actually was a little bemused at the

" surprise " ! Sugar affects the brain the same as an addictive drug.

A year or two ago I read the book " Sugar Blues " which said the same thing.

And it was written back in the 1970's I believe; don't recall exactly, but

it was definitely several decades ago.

Andresa

[Guest guest]

I get it at Natural Grocers [Vitamin Cottage] in Santa Fe. KAL brand has a

liquid that has no alcohol and no aftertaste. NOW brand has alsohol and a

slight aftertase.

I know there are packed packets also but those are " refined " so I prefer

the liquid stevia.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Carolyn Wilkerson <

carolyn.wilkerson@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Do you get it from the store or chop up leaves to use it?

> I tried waht was in the store and hated it. I think it went by name of

> truvia. Even their commercials are lousy. I couldn't use it and don't

> remember if I threw it away or gave to someone else.

>

>

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:16 PM

>

> Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

>

>

> I have switched to stevia and love it. I never did do a lot of sugar but

> when I learned about stevia and tried it I found it quite satisfying.

>

> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Thea Barbato <tbarbato@...

> >wrote:

>

> > **

>

> >

> >

> > Andresa, you're perfectly correct of course, I remember the book Sugar

> > Blues. I think one of the differences is that that sort of information is

> > more in the forefront now, what with Dr. Oz's show and other

> > representatives

> > of healthy living communicating about lifestyles and how to decrease the

> > bad

> > and increase the good in our diets.

> >

> > So, while it is an eye-opener in a sense, it is definitely not a surprise

> > to

> > me either, and I hope it sways many to cut back, if not eliminate sugar

> in

> > their diet. It is highly inflammatory among other things. I work in a

> > wellness practice and this is something we try to educate our patients

> > about

> > sugar and its deleterious effects on our bodies.

> >

> > Thea

> >

> > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ]

> > On

> > Behalf Of ladybird631017

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:26 AM

> > To: sproutpeople

> > Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

> >

> > I didn't find it an eye opener. I actually was a little bemused at the

> > " surprise " ! Sugar affects the brain the same as an addictive drug.

> >

> > A year or two ago I read the book " Sugar Blues " which said the same

> thing.

> > And it was written back in the 1970's I believe; don't recall exactly,

> but

> > it was definitely several decades ago.

> >

> > Andresa

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I had packets and it was not good or I didn't think so.  You saved yourself

that mistake.

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

 

I get it at Natural Grocers [Vitamin Cottage] in Santa Fe. KAL brand has a

liquid that has no alcohol and no aftertaste. NOW brand has alsohol and a

slight aftertase.

I know there are packed packets also but those are " refined " so I prefer

the liquid stevia.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Carolyn Wilkerson <

carolyn.wilkerson@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Do you get it from the store or chop up leaves to use it?

> I tried waht was in the store and hated it. I think it went by name of

> truvia. Even their commercials are lousy. I couldn't use it and don't

> remember if I threw it away or gave to someone else.

>

>

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:16 PM

>

> Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

>

>

> I have switched to stevia and love it. I never did do a lot of sugar but

> when I learned about stevia and tried it I found it quite satisfying.

>

> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Thea Barbato <tbarbato@...

> >wrote:

>

> > **

>

> >

> >

> > Andresa, you're perfectly correct of course, I remember the book Sugar

> > Blues. I think one of the differences is that that sort of information is

> > more in the forefront now, what with Dr. Oz's show and other

> > representatives

> > of healthy living communicating about lifestyles and how to decrease the

> > bad

> > and increase the good in our diets.

> >

> > So, while it is an eye-opener in a sense, it is definitely not a surprise

> > to

> > me either, and I hope it sways many to cut back, if not eliminate sugar

> in

> > their diet. It is highly inflammatory among other things. I work in a

> > wellness practice and this is something we try to educate our patients

> > about

> > sugar and its deleterious effects on our bodies.

> >

> > Thea

> >

> > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ]

> > On

> > Behalf Of ladybird631017

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:26 AM

> > To: sproutpeople

> > Subject: Re: 60 Minutes sugar program

> >

> > I didn't find it an eye opener. I actually was a little bemused at the

> > " surprise " ! Sugar affects the brain the same as an addictive drug.

> >

> > A year or two ago I read the book " Sugar Blues " which said the same

> thing.

> > And it was written back in the 1970's I believe; don't recall exactly,

> but

> > it was definitely several decades ago.

> >

> > Andresa

> >

> >