enemas

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info re tap water enemas. i have a colonic once a month but

feel the need to use an enema once or twice inbetween colonics. ive read

where using distilled water is also a no-no, so what do you recommend using

for enemas? fred

[Guest guest]

> Enemas have to be done with isotonic solutions, i.e. with same osmotic

> activity of the body cell to avoid loss of electrolites.

> This is not possible to be done with colonics when they just flush plain

> water inside you. I have also seen many Doctors, icluding Dr Max Gerson,

> saying that enemas are preferable to colonics for a number or reasons.

> Just add two tea spoons of a good origin salt (Sodium Chloride)

> to a liter of water and the solution will be isotonic.

Does this mean about 2 tablespoons of salt for a 3 quart enema? J.

[Guest guest]

> Enemas have to be done with isotonic solutions, i.e. with same osmotic

> activity of the body cell to avoid loss of electrolites.

Could isotonic enemas be used to help solve an electrolyte deficiency?

I guess you would need more types of salts than just sodium chloride?

J.

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In a message dated 9/27/00 4:07:07 AM, mensa@... wrote:

<<

I started doing home enemas, you can buy them at the drugstore for under a

dollar, I was scared too but knew I needed cleansing. It really helps a lot

and if I'm sick or if I have overindulged in bad food sometimes I do an enema

just to start from a clean slate . . .

>>

Those Fleets-type things are not of sufficient volume to clean out the cecum,

the distal part of the colon where the " bad bugs " live. They are chemical

stimulants, and they WILL prompt a BM, but not one that will clean out the

yeast. Better (and cheaper) is a one-time investment in an enema bag (about

$10), and then you can make your OWN larger volume (2 qt or so) enema with

distilled water and salt from the grocery store. Much cheaper in the

long-run, and much more effective because those WILL reach the cecum.

Lynn ( a nurse)

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In a message dated 9/27/00 10:03:16 AM, studiodanza_nyc@... wrote:

<<

Ok, how long does it take for the enema to completely

work....from start to finish, how much time does it

take? Is this a weekend project, or can it be done

after work....and Im up and running normal by morning?

>>

It is a very quick thing, even if you use the bag and distilled water with

salt. I can do one EASILY in an hour....that's from heating the water and

preparing the bag til " the last drop " is released. The first time might take

you a little longer, but once you get the prep part down, it will move right

along. Keep in mind that this is not rocket science, and there is little

that you can do wrong, so don't make a major production out of it. Warm

water, a tsp (or so) of salt....... that's it, unless you want soap or

whatever).

Once you expell it, you are done. I usually don't empty TOTALLY right

away.... maybe go back again to the BR in about 20 min or so. But no, it's

not a long, drawn-out thing. You don't usually run back and forth to the BR

several times. And the best thing is, it makes a noticible difference

IMMEDIATELY! I notice that my aches and pains decrease, and my " spaciness "

seems to lift. WHen I first started this candida cure, I did daily enemas,

and it really made a BIG difference for me. So much, that I was inspired to

set myself up for a series of colonics, which helped even more. Once you see

how much better they can make you feel, you'll be shocked. It's the best way

I know to get rid of those dying yeast that are causing your toxic die-off

symptoms, and you will be soooooo glad you did it. Don't be afraid of

enemas...... they saved the quality of my life at a time where I was circling

the drain.

Lynn

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In a message dated 9/27/00 10:29:34 AM, lynga1@... wrote:

<<the cecum,

the distal part of the colon where the " bad bugs " live. >>

Just so no one thinks I am an idiot, let me correct MYSELF here, LOL. The

cecum is not the DISTAL part of the colon. (Not sure if anyone other than

medical-folks would know, but I don't want to ruin my credibility, LOL) The

rectum is the DISTAL part, and the cecum is the proximal part. But the cecum

is the hard part to reach, as it is the DISTANT part from where the enema

water goes in. My typing got ahead of my thinking LOL. Just more evidence

of my brain fog, LOL

Lynn

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--- lynga1@... wrote:

> Don't be afraid of

> enemas...... they saved the quality of my life at a

> time where I was circling

> the drain.

>

> Lynn

>

*******Thanks for the info Lynn.

Jenn

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[Guest guest]

i am afraid of enemas as well. if i were to get the guts up to do one i

would probably do a wheat grass enema. check out dr. ann wigmore's research

on live foods to find out more about wheat grass enemas and the live food

diet. we could all benefit from that i'm sure (i don't completely adhere to

a live food diet but i am trying)

raen

>From: lynga1@...

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>Lynga1@..., mensa@..., candidiasisegroups

>Subject: Re: Re: enemas

>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:51:40 EDT

>

>

>In a message dated 9/27/00 10:29:34 AM, lynga1@... wrote:

>

><<the cecum,

>the distal part of the colon where the " bad bugs " live. >>

>

>Just so no one thinks I am an idiot, let me correct MYSELF here, LOL.

>The

>cecum is not the DISTAL part of the colon. (Not sure if anyone other than

>medical-folks would know, but I don't want to ruin my credibility, LOL)

>The

>rectum is the DISTAL part, and the cecum is the proximal part. But the

>cecum

>is the hard part to reach, as it is the DISTANT part from where the enema

>water goes in. My typing got ahead of my thinking LOL. Just more evidence

>of my brain fog, LOL

>

>Lynn

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Actually, the experiences I've had with enemas and colonics have been very

positive. Neither really hurt or anything...and they do flush out the

intestines quite well. I had to get over the embarrassment factor, but I'd

rather be a little embarrassed than a lot sick.

Best,

Barb Lien

>From: " Raen Fionn-Inish " <raenfinn@...>

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>Subject: Re: Re: enemas

>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:56:14 EDT

>

>

>i am afraid of enemas as well. if i were to get the guts up to do one i

>would probably do a wheat grass enema. check out dr. ann wigmore's

>research

>on live foods to find out more about wheat grass enemas and the live food

>diet. we could all benefit from that i'm sure (i don't completely adhere

>to

>a live food diet but i am trying)

>raen

>

> >From: lynga1@...

> >Reply-candidiasisegroups

> >Lynga1@..., mensa@..., candidiasisegroups

> >Subject: Re: Re: enemas

> >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:51:40 EDT

> >

> >

> >In a message dated 9/27/00 10:29:34 AM, lynga1@... wrote:

> >

> ><<the cecum,

> >the distal part of the colon where the " bad bugs " live. >>

> >

> >Just so no one thinks I am an idiot, let me correct MYSELF here, LOL.

> >The

> >cecum is not the DISTAL part of the colon. (Not sure if anyone other

>than

> >medical-folks would know, but I don't want to ruin my credibility, LOL)

> >The

> >rectum is the DISTAL part, and the cecum is the proximal part. But the

> >cecum

> >is the hard part to reach, as it is the DISTANT part from where the enema

> >water goes in. My typing got ahead of my thinking LOL. Just more

>evidence

> >of my brain fog, LOL

> >

> >Lynn

>

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--- Raen Fionn-Inish <raenfinn@...> wrote:

>

> " ...i am afraid of enemas as well. "

HI Raen,

I did my first one last night....it was quite

unpleasant. It starts to work at once and feels like

you have gas and diarreha. I have always hated

diarreha so that is why this was unpleasant for me.

Took about 15 minutes and I guess I felt better

afterwards but it really knocked me out physically.

Unfortunately I had a bit of rice yesterday and this

morning I am itch city. IT doesnt matter anyway cause

me and the hubby booked plans months ago to go away to

a resort and Im probably going to eat whatever.....Its

all buffet and a lot of alchol so Im going to be shot

come Monday.

I will try to eat well but when everyone is dinning on

eggs & bacon & french toast & coffee hash browns in

the morning and you have to request something totally

off the buffet its a real pain in the ass, not to

mention my husband gets annoyed and angered. I can

deal with the yeast for a week after...lord knows Ive

been dealing with it practically all my life it

seems....Im so used to it....Ill have to go through

die-off again........AARGGGG, Im not quite done with

my first die-off episode.

Forgive me all, believe me, Ill pay for it next week.

Jenn

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[Guest guest]

I think you could eat some eggs and maybe a piece of bacon, or oatmeal, and

be ok. It's up to you, but if you just avoid the bread and the pastries and

the fruit and the alcohol, you could not end up getting as sick as if you

just go whole hog... Too bad about your husband, though, you don't want to

end up having a crummy time because he's mad, but you also don't want to

have a crummy time cause you feel yucky!!

I'll be thinking about you, I know how hard this tightrope it!

Good luck,

Louise

Re: Re: enemas

--- Raen Fionn-Inish <raenfinn@...> wrote:

>

> " ...i am afraid of enemas as well. "

HI Raen,

I did my first one last night....it was quite

unpleasant. It starts to work at once and feels like

you have gas and diarreha. I have always hated

diarreha so that is why this was unpleasant for me.

Took about 15 minutes and I guess I felt better

afterwards but it really knocked me out physically.

Unfortunately I had a bit of rice yesterday and this

morning I am itch city. IT doesnt matter anyway cause

me and the hubby booked plans months ago to go away to

a resort and Im probably going to eat whatever.....Its

all buffet and a lot of alchol so Im going to be shot

come Monday.

I will try to eat well but when everyone is dinning on

eggs & bacon & french toast & coffee hash browns in

the morning and you have to request something totally

off the buffet its a real pain in the ass, not to

mention my husband gets annoyed and angered. I can

deal with the yeast for a week after...lord knows Ive

been dealing with it practically all my life it

seems....Im so used to it....Ill have to go through

die-off again........AARGGGG, Im not quite done with

my first die-off episode.

Forgive me all, believe me, Ill pay for it next week.

Jenn

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[Guest guest]

this is not good, your husband needs to be supportive. if you're not well

you're not happy if you're not happy he gets the cantankerous jenn-and that

is not good for anyone. you are one (you and your partner)tell your husband

about the circle of life. surround yourself with helpful people and friends

and plan healthy retreats so you don't have to go backwards again.

raen

p.s. oh, and while i am playing the old wise sage, go vegan.

>From: JENNifer <studiodanza_nyc@...>

>Reply-candidiasisegroups

>candidiasisegroups

>Subject: Re: Re: enemas

>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:36:21 -0700 (PDT)

>

>--- Raen Fionn-Inish <raenfinn@...> wrote:

> >

> > " ...i am afraid of enemas as well. "

>

>

>HI Raen,

>

>I did my first one last night....it was quite

>unpleasant. It starts to work at once and feels like

>you have gas and diarreha. I have always hated

>diarreha so that is why this was unpleasant for me.

>Took about 15 minutes and I guess I felt better

>afterwards but it really knocked me out physically.

>Unfortunately I had a bit of rice yesterday and this

>morning I am itch city. IT doesnt matter anyway cause

>me and the hubby booked plans months ago to go away to

>a resort and Im probably going to eat whatever.....Its

>all buffet and a lot of alchol so Im going to be shot

>come Monday.

>

>I will try to eat well but when everyone is dinning on

>eggs & bacon & french toast & coffee hash browns in

>the morning and you have to request something totally

>off the buffet its a real pain in the ass, not to

>mention my husband gets annoyed and angered. I can

>deal with the yeast for a week after...lord knows Ive

>been dealing with it practically all my life it

>seems....Im so used to it....Ill have to go through

>die-off again........AARGGGG, Im not quite done with

>my first die-off episode.

>

>Forgive me all, believe me, Ill pay for it next week.

>Jenn

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

From what I have been reading, http://www.lifeknox.com/, www.sheilas.com, and

other sources that I can't put a finger on right now, I would say the risks of

taking enemas every day is if you

use improper techniques (i.e. if you take only warm water or too hot of enemas

and never cooler ones. The theory of this is that warm enemas relax the colon

and may not encourage

peristalsis, whereas cooler water may allow it to contract more to aid in

tonifying the colon walls. Personally, I take a warm enema followed by a cooler

one), and if you do not take flora

supplements of some kind to help replenish the good flora that may get swept out

with the water. There may be other risks that I did not cover. My personal

opinion is that if I do not have

a bowel movement naturally or with the help of some supplemental agent (be it

psyllium or natural laxative), then I want to get the waste out before it sits

too long. I was 35 years old

before I knew I was constipated and had other bowel impactions/problems. The

damage done to my colon through years of improper eating and so on may not allow

me to have perfectly moving and

frequent bowel movements, so I may need to assist this process. My concern is

not to become dependent, because in some respects I may be, but to get the waste

out. Lori

Shewolf839@... wrote:

> Is there any risk in doing a cleansing enema every day? Can you become

> dependent upon enemas where you would be unable to have a " normal " bowel

> movement? Do enemas weaken the colon?

> Thanks

>

> -

[Guest guest]

I have question on the colema bord things. I was reading one of the web

sites and it mentioned all the stuff that comes out after using one. My

question is this: How come all this stuff does not come out when one

releives themselfs. Sometimes when I am super consipated, why does this

stuff not get pushed out with all the rock hard bowel movements? Isnt this

the way an intestinal tract is supposed to work,???

Re: Enemas

> From what I have been reading, http://www.lifeknox.com/, www.sheilas.com,

and other sources that I can't put a finger on right now, I would say the

risks of taking enemas every day is if you

> use improper techniques (i.e. if you take only warm water or too hot of

enemas and never cooler ones. The theory of this is that warm enemas relax

the colon and may not encourage

> peristalsis, whereas cooler water may allow it to contract more to aid in

tonifying the colon walls. Personally, I take a warm enema followed by a

cooler one), and if you do not take flora

> supplements of some kind to help replenish the good flora that may get

swept out with the water. There may be other risks that I did not cover.

My personal opinion is that if I do not have

> a bowel movement naturally or with the help of some supplemental agent (be

it psyllium or natural laxative), then I want to get the waste out before it

sits too long. I was 35 years old

> before I knew I was constipated and had other bowel impactions/problems.

The damage done to my colon through years of improper eating and so on may

not allow me to have perfectly moving and

> frequent bowel movements, so I may need to assist this process. My

concern is not to become dependent, because in some respects I may be, but

to get the waste out. Lori

>

> Shewolf839@... wrote:

>

> > Is there any risk in doing a cleansing enema every day? Can you become

> > dependent upon enemas where you would be unable to have a " normal " bowel

> > movement? Do enemas weaken the colon?

> > Thanks

> >

> > -

>

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The answer is simple -- in our " civilized " lifestyle one NEVER

RELIEVES COMPLETELY. First, our " modern " diet and lifestyle promotes

constipation and hardened stools. Second -- the toilet seat is

completely unnatural for humans. When we squat (the normal eliminating

position) all of our internal organs are held in the proper position

that ensures a complete elimination. That's why we find that the

Indians and Africans that live in primitive conditions never had any

rectal troubles; they have no hemorrhoid troubles whatsoever. Here's

what the studies show:

(from the book " Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management from

http://cleansing.n3.net ):

" Their research indicates that the increase in disease rates in

Westerners were caused by changes occurring in the food makeup that

reaches the large bowel. In former times, ingested food was much

coarser, contained more bulk and indigestible fiber. The processing of

foods today makes them mushy, soft, fiberless and bulkless.

These researchers claim that this situation is having a detrimental

effect upon the American and British health.

In England, Africa and India experiments were conducted to compare

eating habits, foods and bowel waste products. These studies indicated

that people living under primitive conditions on diets high in

indigestible fiber passed from 2-1/2 to 4-1/2 times as much feces

as those in the Western countries, and these people were found to be

relatively free of most of the diseases studied. "

===========================================

> I have question on the colema bord things. I was reading one of the

web

> sites and it mentioned all the stuff that comes out after using one.

My

> question is this: How come all this stuff does not come out when

one

> releives themselfs. Sometimes when I am super consipated, why does

this

> stuff not get pushed out with all the rock hard bowel movements?

Isnt this

> the way an intestinal tract is supposed to work,???

>

>

>

> Re: Enemas

>

>

> > From what I have been reading, http://www.lifeknox.com/,

www.sheilas.com,

> and other sources that I can't put a finger on right now, I would

say the

> risks of taking enemas every day is if you

> > use improper techniques (i.e. if you take only warm water or too

hot of

> enemas and never cooler ones. The theory of this is that warm

enemas relax

> the colon and may not encourage

> > peristalsis, whereas cooler water may allow it to contract more to

aid in

> tonifying the colon walls. Personally, I take a warm enema followed

by a

> cooler one), and if you do not take flora

> > supplements of some kind to help replenish the good flora that may

get

> swept out with the water. There may be other risks that I did not

cover.

> My personal opinion is that if I do not have

> > a bowel movement naturally or with the help of some supplemental

agent (be

> it psyllium or natural laxative), then I want to get the waste out

before it

> sits too long. I was 35 years old

> > before I knew I was constipated and had other bowel

impactions/problems.

> The damage done to my colon through years of improper eating and so

on may

> not allow me to have perfectly moving and

> > frequent bowel movements, so I may need to assist this process.

My

> concern is not to become dependent, because in some respects I may

be, but

> to get the waste out. Lori

> >

> > Shewolf839@a... wrote:

> >

> > > Is there any risk in doing a cleansing enema every day? Can

you become

> > > dependent upon enemas where you would be unable to have a

" normal " bowel

> > > movement? Do enemas weaken the colon?

> > > Thanks

> > >

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> >

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[Guest guest]

I know that doing colonics, a little more than an enema, is productive when done two times a day for a week, then once a day for a month, then 3 times a week for a couple weeks, then once a week for a month. No harm comes to the colon when doing this, so I would assume that doing an enema every day for a while will not hurt. Enemas Is there any risk in doing a cleansing enema every day? Can you becomedependent upon enemas where you would be unable to have a "normal" bowelmovement? Do enemas weaken the colon?Thanks-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>eGroups eLertsIt's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!>Subscription'>1/9698/0/_/478268/_/975601642/-------------------------------------------------------------------->Subscription email:mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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sistah, i think its best to have the enema first thing in the morning when the digestive tract is most at rest. fred

[Guest guest]

Hello All...

Ok I have a question....would it be safe to give an enema to my six year old

son who has Candidia? has a rare form (Chronic Mucocutaneous

Candidiasis) and has battled it since he was 2 1/2 years old. We started him

out on a candidia diet and supplements, natural antifungals (the whole nine

yards) a year ago. We were doing VERY well until this last month....seem to

be getting more frequent onsets on the sores and I'm not too sure as to

why...... yes he does the probiotics and has a good supply of vitamins,

minerals, nutrition on a daily basis. He has been getting constipated more

and more lately and I know that this can only lead to problems......any

advice????? He can eat two servings of fruit per day without any kind of

problems, he also takes psyllium husk. I am also concerned that his little

body maybe becoming resistant to the antifungals that he takes....could it be

time to do a different protocol? weights 43 3/4 pounds right now,

stands 46 inches tall. We rotate the antifungals every four days (as

suggested by NEEDS.com) He takes: liquid Oil of Oregano 5-7 drops in a

1/4 teaspoon of purified water, Capryl, GFSE, Garlic, Yeast Fighters, Garlic.

If it SOOOOOOO frustrating to see him have a set back after doing so

remarkably well for so long

Any input would be a welcomed help from all of you......

Loving this forum and friends,

Angie

[Guest guest]

I would think it was time to change his anti fungals, i'm surprised he is

taking all this so well. If you think he could take an enema or colonic i

would try it, i think maybe i would do the enema first & see how well he

does, maybe after he gets his bowels going he will be ok & maybe increase

his fiber cleanse, i feel real bad for him! Mog

[Guest guest]

Mog,

Thanks for the reply! Now my question is: how much of an enema should I

give him? I assume to use just plain water at first to see how he does...2

quarts seems like alot for his little body...talk about washing him away!!

I'm thinking about trying a half a quart the first time, what do ya think??

Next question: should we wait on changing the antifungals until after the

enema to see how he does? Maybe a good bowel clense will help to kick the

antifungals back up to par.....? If we do change the antifungals what do you

suggest we use? Should we switch to another kind of fiber supplement other

than the psyllium? is a great kid with a positive attitude, we have

tried to teach him about his health problems so when he gets older he will

continue to follow his diet and know how to take care of his needs.

Good health wishes.....

Angie

[Guest guest]

Angie, I don't know if you considered this. But don't

give

your child tap water. Or anyone else. The chlorine in the

water kills good bacteria in the gut, so the pro-biotic he is

getting could be rendered useless just because of the bad

water. I would do the enema only at a last resort. He is

still very young for this kind of treatment. Also the second

thing I would do is CHANGE the brand of pro-biotic he

is on. I was reading another lists and it was posted that

most of the pro-biotic supplements that are sold is junk.

I believe that since I tried many kinds and did not get any

results at all.

I know the water is a problem first hand. I always had

slow bowl movements but out city installed a new water

treatment plant and now the water smells like a swimming

pool when you run it. I feel so much better on filtered water.

And not the simple carbon filtered water. I don't know the

name of it, it could be the reverse osmosis filter.

It was confirmed these products weren't working when I

had a stool test analysis done. It showed NO good live

bacteria in my stool, even though I was taking it. One of

the problems is having it live long enough in your system to

reach as far as the colon. It is important that you take the

pro-biotic about 1 hour after eating. That way most of

the digestion is being done on your meal and not your bacteria.

So more lives.

Also look for food allergies. Sugar, wheat and milk products

can cause constipation in anyone. With me it is sugar for sure.

Even if I eat a small amount my gut feel like lead. Since we

both had candida overgrowth, ingesting sugar in a yeasty gut

will stop you up badly, especially so it will overpower the

good bacteria that is present.

Slippery elm is good for getting a smoother movement. I take

it in capsules but you can make a pudding out of it. Weny

mentioned

it some time ago. Her family makes it with cinnamin and eats it

by

the cup fulls. I haven't tried it yet, let me know if you do.

Liz D

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bUcKsNdOeS

[Guest guest]

>He has been getting constipated more

> and more lately and I know that this can only lead to problems......

Hi Angie,

I have a 41/2 year old daughter who is coming out of a three year

battle with constipation. She would become so constipated that she

ended up with an enlarged colon and frequent intestinal bleeding. We

were repeatedly told to increase her fiber intake with more

flax/psyllium/vegetables/dried fruit/whole wheat/extra water, etc.

After two years of our lives revolving around this very serious

problem we discovered that we were being given very bad advice. We

discovered that they were treating the wrong problem. As it turns

out, she has an intolerance to soy, citrus, wheat, and dairy. When

she has one of those foods, it irritates her intestinal lining

causing her discomfort and interfering with her body's signals to

go. When she is in pain (even minor), she doesn't recognize the urge

to go and she then holds her stools too long, this results in the

water being absorbed out of the stools, causing them to be hard and

difficult to move, and the cycle begins.

We have found that soy is particularly bad for causing the

constipation cycle. Our most effective tool is to give her a

balanced calcium/magnesium supplement. This works as a natural

laxative by adding more water into the bowel (it does take 1-3 days

to kick in). It does not cause any bloating, discomfort, gas, or any

other problems. I would recomend trying this before you try anything

more drastic. After having to do numerous suppositories and enemas

on my daughters little body, I think that it is something that should

only be done when there are no other options and they are needing

immediate relief. It is just too invasive and traumatic to their

small bodies. I hope this helps! Good luck.

-Jen N

[Guest guest]

Liz,

I agree that tap water is extremely harmful. drinks filtered water

only. Sugar has been out of his diet for the past year now, it was a MAJOR

problem for him. I am looking into a different probiotic for him and also

looking into Primal Defense to see if it may help...I have heard good things

about it thus far....time will tell! I will try the slippery elm to see if

it does better than the psyllium...here hoping! When we first started his

diet, we went thru the " testing phase " of every food that he ate. The only

thing he has a reaction to is corn, yeast and of course sugar. He eats more

veggies than any kid I know, thank GOD he loves them! Absolutely no processed

foods of any kind, every veggie and fruit is FRESH, never canned. He does eat

meats for the protien but we buy it from a farm and we know the farmer that

raise the meats. My food budget is like the national debt but, at least we

are alive to tell about it!

I love reading your posts Liz, keep passing on the good info!

Angie

[Guest guest]

Have you looked on the internet for an enema bag? if you can't find one you

might try!

[Guest guest]

Try Walmart. They carry a water bottle/ enema bag in one.

Liz K.

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> For those of you doing enemas where do you get your supplies at a

> reasonable cost. Most drug stores only carry the bottle (eg Fleet)

> enemas. If you don't want to invest in an enema board where do you

> find the enema bags. Thanks JonB