Re: Stool testing Was: Water Damage Bugs

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The pseudomonas--is this something standard labs test for when they do a stool

culture or do you have to specifically ask for it?

On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

I will attempt to answer you questions. As you pointed out the only information

that is available is on my web site. The bacteria have been ignored.

Testing for the bacteria is by swab samples of infested building materials

and/or bulk samples. You have the lab culture for Gram negative and positive

bacteria, identified to at least the genus level.

The bacteria and their spores as well as their endotoxins can inhabit clothing.

I suspect that a good washing will solve this problem. The health problem is

upper and lower respiratory tract infections. I also have a client with an

overgrowth of Pseudomonas as determined by stool cultures. She was exposed to

high levels of this organism in her apartment.

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[Guest guest]

All a lab does is culture the stools and identify the bacteria that over grow.

No special test. Gram negative bacteria are usually cultured and identified

from sheep blood agar plates.

Re: [] Stool testing Was: Water Damage Bugs

The pseudomonas--is this something standard labs test for when they do a stool

culture or do you have to specifically ask for it?

On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

I will attempt to answer you questions. As you pointed out the only

information that is available is on my web site. The bacteria have been ignored.

Testing for the bacteria is by swab samples of infested building materials

and/or bulk samples. You have the lab culture for Gram negative and positive

bacteria, identified to at least the genus level.

The bacteria and their spores as well as their endotoxins can inhabit

clothing. I suspect that a good washing will solve this problem. The health

problem is upper and lower respiratory tract infections. I also have a client

with an overgrowth of Pseudomonas as determined by stool cultures. She was

exposed to high levels of this organism in her apartment.

.

[Guest guest]

Genova Diagnostics has a GI DNA panel thats pretty good. Ive used this as well

as Doctor's Data Stool Analysis. Dr Amy Yasko says each I is good for diff kind

of bacteria.. aerobic and one for anaerobic.

cant remember which one for what, but it seemed to me the GI DNA panel caught

everything the DD stool analysis did and more. Perhaps I didnt have certain

bacteria to any unbalanced degree that would have shown up on the DD test and

not the Genove GI Panel.. not sure on that one.

For me: clostridia, strep and mycoplasma. Vancomycin helped the most. My

Metabolic Anaylsis MAP from Genova still shows markers for clostrida .. these

markers can also be present for pseudonomas.

It is interesting that the gut test might reflect building water damage. I think

these bugs tested or some of them can be part of the normal gut flora.. the

issue is when they get out of control. So not exactly sure how reflective unless

out of control becausse of constant exposure.

I wonder about respiratory infections and how to diagnose those. Seems like some

tissue sampling might be necessary in lungs? I wonder about deep nasal swabs?

Robin

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

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> All a lab does is culture the stools and identify the bacteria that over grow.

No special test. Gram negative bacteria are usually cultured and identified

from sheep blood agar plates.

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[Guest guest]

Now your are starting to think. Bronchiole washings and/or deep early morning

sputum are good sources for cultures. Lung biopsy materials can also be used.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

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