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mei,

The issue isn't just about After Shock. It applies to any anti-fungal

for this use. If the wood floor is dry nothing will grow, with or

without this or any anti-fungal.

If the floor isn't dry then the moisture MUST be stopped. Even

with this or any other anti-fungal the mold - and especially

bacteria - will grow. Anti-fungals don't work forever. In fact, if you

read the warranty on any of them, including After Shock, it clearly

states their warranty is void if there is any water or dampness

after it is applied.

So why pay for applying it? If the wood stays dry you don't need it

and if the wood doesn't stay dry the warranty doesn't cover it,

which means it doesn't work in that situation.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Is this safe to be applied to the wood floor, air out for a few hours?

This is supposed to be anti-fungal.

mei

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Carl,

Thanks so much for your fast and informative reply.

They say AfterShock can also kill remaining mold. Ter-Bor ( boric acid ) is a

safer replacement? They may just replace the subfloor( in the hallway next to

the bathroom )which has the black marks on them with a new piece of wood if it

is possible. This wood may go under the tiles of the bathrrom as well.

Yes, moisture is the real issue. I really hope the toilet pipe leak is the only

problem which has been fixed.

Ice demming is possibility for my ceiling stain near the edges of the family

room. My roof has reenforced pipes, new layer of roofing was put on about 5

years ago. ( 30 year old house). There is so much snow this winter,

unbelievable.

mei

Re: AfterShock

Posted by: " Carl E. Grimes " grimes@... grimeshh

Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:32 pm (PST)

mei,

The issue isn't just about After Shock. It applies to any anti-fungal

for this use. If the wood floor is dry nothing will grow, with or

without this or any anti-fungal.

If the floor isn't dry then the moisture MUST be stopped. Even

with this or any other anti-fungal the mold - and especially

bacteria - will grow. Anti-fungals don't work forever. In fact, if you

read the warranty on any of them, including After Shock, it clearly

states their warranty is void if there is any water or dampness

after it is applied.

So why pay for applying it? If the wood stays dry you don't need it

and if the wood doesn't stay dry the warranty doesn't cover it,

which means it doesn't work in that situation.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

Is this safe to be applied to the wood floor, air out for a few hours?

This is supposed to be anti-fungal.

mei

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mei,

Instead of an expensive anti-fungal, they can simply use a non-

VOC sealant (paint). It will be cheaper and will encapsulate any

remaining mold - assuming they properly removed it from the

subfloor to begin with.

Again, why kill it? If the moisture is stopped any mold spores still

on the surface will not and cannot grow. If they get wet again the

the same procedures as now will have to be completed anyway.

Besides, the warranty is voided with new moisture.

Go ahead if you want, but my point is it is not necessary and it

gives you no additional benefit.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

Carl,

Thanks so much for your fast and informative reply.

They say AfterShock can also kill remaining mold. Ter-Bor ( boric acid )

is a safer replacement? They may just replace the subfloor( in the

hallway next to the bathroom )which has the black marks on them with a

new piece of wood if it is possible. This wood may go under the tiles of

the bathrrom as well.

Yes, moisture is the real issue. I really hope the toilet pipe leak is the only

problem which has been fixed.

Ice demming is possibility for my ceiling stain near the edges of the

family room. My roof has reenforced pipes, new layer of roofing was put

on about 5 years ago. ( 30 year old house). There is so much snow this

winter, unbelievable.

mei

Re: AfterShock

Posted by: " Carl E. Grimes " grimes@... grimeshh

Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:32 pm (PST)

mei,

The issue isn't just about After Shock. It applies to any anti-fungal

for this use. If the wood floor is dry nothing will grow, with or

without this or any anti-fungal.

If the floor isn't dry then the moisture MUST be stopped. Even

with this or any other anti-fungal the mold - and especially

bacteria - will grow. Anti-fungals don't work forever. In fact, if you

read the warranty on any of them, including After Shock, it clearly

states their warranty is void if there is any water or dampness

after it is applied.

So why pay for applying it? If the wood stays dry you don't need it

and if the wood doesn't stay dry the warranty doesn't cover it,

which means it doesn't work in that situation.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

Is this safe to be applied to the wood floor, air out for a few hours?

This is supposed to be anti-fungal.

mei

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OK...$60,000 dollar question!

What do you mean " safe " ?

This is a common product, used all over by probably thousands of individuals.

Manuctured by Fiberlock, who calls it a fungal coating, as does the IICRC S520).

It has a fungal inhibitor; I believe it is an elastomeric in a latex base (I

think). It works great for a few purposes. there are other products out there

too.

I have to know why you choose to " seal " the floor in the first place. And then,

what do you plan to do with the floor once it is coated.

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> Is this safe to be applied to the wood floor, air out for a few hours?

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> This is supposed to be anti-fungal.

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" I have to know why you choose to " seal " the floor in the first place. And then,

what do you plan to do with the floor once it is coated. "

Because there are some black stain on the subfloor near the bathroom that I had

a recent flood, it is suggested to coat it with AfterShock. Is it better to just

replace this part of the subfloor, so, there is no need to coat it?

mei

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Stains, ok, but why are you going to seal them anyway? are they a hazard? if so,

will sealing them make them a non-hazard? are they unsightly?

Those are the questions you need to answer, or have answer.

You may want a different product, one that waterproofs better, or one that looks

better.

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> " I have to know why you choose to " seal " the floor in the first place. And

then, what do you plan to do with the floor once it is coated. "

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> Because there are some black stain on the subfloor near the bathroom that I

had a recent flood, it is suggested to coat it with AfterShock. Is it better to

just replace this part of the subfloor, so, there is no need to coat it?

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> mei

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