Re: Treatment Protocol Inflamation

[Guest guest]

Glutithione nasal spray, glutithione nebulized.  Hydroxycabolimine B-12

nasal. 

Mycotoxins are still a chemical.   they use the same protocol for most

chemicals

[Guest guest]

kristina,

are there any studies on the use of nebulized glutathione. dr gray

prescribed all these things for my son, they didn't seem to help though,

and sometimes he thought the nebulized gluathione was irritating. Dr.

Rea says it can irritate and damage the lungs. I am wondering what kind

of studies have been done if any on mold exposed patients rather than CF

patients.

thanks, sue v.

>Glutithione nasal spray, glutithione nebulized.  Hydroxycabolimine B-12

>nasal. 

>

>Mycotoxins are still a chemical.   they use the same protocol for most

>chemicals

>

[Guest guest]

I have not been involved in the thread. This is not an easy concept to grasp.

From my experience in lymeland and some in cfs land....

IgM means recent exposure or current immune battle (esp with lyme which presents

a little diff immune wise), IgG past exposure but with people with chronic

illness some docs are using elevated IgGs as indicators along with clinical

symptoms to diagnose a disease or illness. They are also using IgMs... along

with symptoms. Viral infections for example.. high Ebstein Barr antibodies IgG

are something to explore.

With lyme, the body can produce no IgG and IgM and one can have lyme disease..

the antibodies can actually pop up when treatment has been undertaken for some

and people get all excited abotu that because they have concrete evidence of

" exposure " which also means immume reaction to the spirochete. Sign of ammue

activity is a good sign. Some docs do an abx or herbal challege. They put the

patient on a trial course of abx and then wait for a period of time them test

for antibodies to access immune response. If it presents with the challenge test

then it helps one with the clinical diagnosis.

Some also test pos for lyme IgG and IgM and are not in a disease process. They

have been exposed and infected. IgG and mo symptoms.. exposed (you can debate

what it means to be infected)

Some go back and forth IgG then IgM then IgG only then IgM pops back out.. this

I think would indicate at least an ongoing immune response with a bacteria.. a

battle taking place. and with symptoms would indicate a disease process.. or be

a tool for analysis and putting pieces together..

You could also PCR for blood pathogens but even with XMRV, some are pos and neg

for disease process or dont have CFS. They are finding a percentage of the

popluation is carrying xmrv and not sick.

Robin

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> It is to reduce the inflammation. Robin, you are too focused on antibodies.

Antibodies only mean exposure, they do not necessarily indicate illness.

Elevated IgE means allergy is present. The rest (IgA, IgM,. and IgG) do not

necessarily mean a disease process is occurring from the mold exposure. They

just mean exposure has occurred.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you,  This is for a friend suffering from brain inflamation from an

indusrial chemical injury.

 

Does anyone know if MEDICARE pays for treatment with these products ??

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: a Townsend <kmtown2003@...>

Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 11:15:48 PM

Subject: Re: [] Treatment Protocol Inflamation

 

Glutithione nasal spray, glutithione nebulized.  Hydroxycabolimine B-12

nasal. 

Mycotoxins are still a chemical.   they use the same protocol for most

chemicals