Answering a portion of my own question--drycleaning and Apple computers

[Guest guest]

Okay for drycleaning...

Obviously those who react to drycleaning solvents are not going to be helped by

this, but drycleaning solvents don't cause the kind of reaction for me that

dryer sheets do...go figure.

Anyway, I don't know the qualifications of moldinspector.com, but that person

says:

" Dry cleaning clothes is usually but not always effective in killing and remove

mold spores from the items dry cleaned. " I guess I'm going to call around for

someone that understands mold in my area and try to get my items drycleaned.

Apple.com (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3988?viewlocale=en_US) says that Clorox

or Lysol wipes can be used. Again, those don't affect me. Thank goodness for

small favors.

But after reading a page in a book (When Technology Fails) about a guy who

thinks his computer contaminated his new home, I'm thinking the computer will

have to be replaced. ..this is so frustrating.

I hope this information helps others. Nothing's definitive though--an eternal

source of frustration!

I'm going to have to buy the cheapest furniture imaginable. I just don't know

how I will afford replacing all my possessions...some strive for the simple

life. Others are forced into it, no?

[Guest guest]

I think until you know what to do, folding furniture, patio furniture, simple

stuff, minimal amt and expense, etc. There are those chairs made with frame and

cloth, like you carry, stadium chairs? You can take fabric off of frame and

wash, kind of hammock style. Simple, cheap probably best, if contaminated, you

don't lose much. I'm really anxious to move myself due to worry about this much

property but the market won't allow it right now.

>

> I'm going to have to buy the cheapest furniture imaginable. I just don't know

how I will afford replacing all my possessions...some strive for the simple

life. Others are forced into it, no?

>

[Guest guest]

AN: Dr.Sherry writes in her book that if you wear an item of clothing

that has been dry cleaned for one hour, the chemicals used will remove 1/2 of

the glutathione your body makes in a day. That alone would keep me from

dry-cleaning anything or wearing it after I did. D

>

> Okay for drycleaning...

>

> Obviously those who react to drycleaning solvents are not going to be helped

by this, but drycleaning solvents don't cause the kind of reaction for me that

dryer sheets do...go figure.

> Anyway, I don't know the qualifications of moldinspector.com, but that person

says:

>

> " Dry cleaning clothes is usually but not always effective in killing and

remove mold spores from the items dry cleaned. " I guess I'm going to call around

for someone that understands mold in my area and try to get my items drycleaned.

>

> Apple.com (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3988?viewlocale=en_US) says that

Clorox or Lysol wipes can be used. Again, those don't affect me. Thank goodness

for small favors.

>

> But after reading a page in a book (When Technology Fails) about a guy who

thinks his computer contaminated his new home, I'm thinking the computer will

have to be replaced. ..this is so frustrating.

>

> I hope this information helps others. Nothing's definitive though--an eternal

source of frustration!

>

> I'm going to have to buy the cheapest furniture imaginable. I just don't know

how I will afford replacing all my possessions...some strive for the simple

life. Others are forced into it, no?

>

[Guest guest]

The EPA site used to say that Dry Cleaning neither kills or removes spores. Have

not looked at it for years. When I moved from my moldy house, I spent a fortune

on dry cleaning, did not help at all. I put all the dry cleaning in a small

closet in my new rental house, put in a ozone generator on high, closed the door

and tapped around it. A month later my clothes where fine. Worked for me but I

know not everything works for everyone. Never breathe from an ozone generator,

and it must run for a long time, to both kill spores and remove toxin, and

de-grade spores so they are not allergenic. Does not work on suede, unless you

want it bleached. Will loosen threads on hem and buttons.

>

> Okay for drycleaning...

>

> Obviously those who react to drycleaning solvents are not going to be helped

by this, but drycleaning solvents don't cause the kind of reaction for me that

dryer sheets do...go figure.

> Anyway, I don't know the qualifications of moldinspector.com, but that person

says:

>

> " Dry cleaning clothes is usually but not always effective in killing and

remove mold spores from the items dry cleaned. " I guess I'm going to call around

for someone that understands mold in my area and try to get my items drycleaned.

>

> Apple.com (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3988?viewlocale=en_US) says that

Clorox or Lysol wipes can be used. Again, those don't affect me. Thank goodness

for small favors.

>

> But after reading a page in a book (When Technology Fails) about a guy who

thinks his computer contaminated his new home, I'm thinking the computer will

have to be replaced. ..this is so frustrating.

>

> I hope this information helps others. Nothing's definitive though--an eternal

source of frustration!

>

> I'm going to have to buy the cheapest furniture imaginable. I just don't know

how I will afford replacing all my possessions...some strive for the simple

life. Others are forced into it, no?

>

[Guest guest]

carondeen,

I am so glad that you were able to finally use your clothing without adverse

health effects. However, I caution against the use of ozone for this purpose.

First of all, the spores and toxins from mold on the clothing are not living.

Therefore they do not need to be killed. Ozone can react with dry cleaning

chemicals and other organic material. The odors left behind by chemicals from

ozone oxidation can be quite offensive. Some of the by-products are toxic.

Additionally, ozone seepage from cracks can create harmful exposures, especially

for children, elderly, and asthmatics.

I have had some luck with a dry cleaner that filters the cleaning solution to

remove mold spores. However, many people that have been exposed to WDB develop

sensitivities to chemicals, including dry cleaning solutions.

Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

sanit-air, inc.

>

> The EPA site used to say that Dry Cleaning neither kills or removes spores.

Have not looked at it for years. When I moved from my moldy house, I spent a

fortune on dry cleaning, did not help at all. I put all the dry cleaning in a

small closet in my new rental house, put in a ozone generator on high, closed

the door and tapped around it. A month later my clothes where fine. Worked for

me but I know not everything works for everyone. Never breathe from an ozone

generator, and it must run for a long time, to both kill spores and remove

toxin, and de-grade spores so they are not allergenic. Does not work on suede,

unless you want it bleached. Will loosen threads on hem and buttons.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Connie, where would ozone seep through cracks?

>

> Additionally, ozone seepage from cracks can create harmful exposures,

especially for children, elderly, and asthmatics.

>

> I have had some luck with a dry cleaner that filters the cleaning solution to

remove mold spores. However, many people that have been exposed to WDB develop

sensitivities to chemicals, including dry cleaning solutions.

>

>

> Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

> sanit-air, inc.

[Guest guest]

Hi Barb, I made this statement for people who might be thinking of using ozone

in a room of the house or other occupied building. Even with doors shut, ozone

could exist the " chamber " and potentially harm building occupants.

Connie

> >

> > Additionally, ozone seepage from cracks can create harmful exposures,

especially for children, elderly, and asthmatics.

> >

> > I have had some luck with a dry cleaner that filters the cleaning solution

to remove mold spores. However, many people that have been exposed to WDB

develop sensitivities to chemicals, including dry cleaning solutions.

> >

> >

> > Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

> > sanit-air, inc.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry for using the kill word; after studying the enemy for 20 years, I

certainly know spores are not alive. And I did make sure cracks around doors

were taped, no leaks. Sunning after ozone got rid of any odor. This was part of

my one year campaign to find what would clean my things. As a professional

restorer of art works, I was constantly annoyed by remediators saying to send

your heirlooms to a restorer. I did not know how to do it, and neither did any

of the restorers I know. I became an official tester for a university school of

environmental studies, to try out all there products, and write up little

reports. I did find a few things that work for me, which I have posted here many

times

>

> carondeen,

> I am so glad that you were able to finally use your clothing without adverse

health effects. However, I caution against the use of ozone for this purpose.

First of all, the spores and toxins from mold on the clothing are not living.

Therefore they do not need to be killed. Ozone can react with dry cleaning

chemicals and other organic material. The odors left behind by chemicals from

ozone oxidation can be quite offensive. Some of the by-products are toxic.

>

> Additionally, ozone seepage from cracks can create harmful exposures,

especially for children, elderly, and asthmatics.

>

> I have had some luck with a dry cleaner that filters the cleaning solution to

remove mold spores. However, many people that have been exposed to WDB develop

sensitivities to chemicals, including dry cleaning solutions.

>

>

> Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

> sanit-air, inc.

>

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