Steroids

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

Very well said...Thank you!

Cheri

Galt, CA

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I agree with you. I don't notice a change in Aidan's behavior as much

as him looking awful for quite a few days after the pred. But then -

it's like he's going to down for several days with or without the

pred. - but at least with the pred. he's not burning up with fever.

Ugg . . . wish there was just one answer that was definate and worked

perfectly.

Thanks for your post!

Hannah

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

Just wondering how your dr's prescribed the steriod meds to your kids?

We have the predilosne (sp?) here but I've been scared to try it out.

The dr says to take it 1 1/2 teaspoon twice per day for 2 days and

then 1 teaspoon once per day for 2 days. He is 2 and 1/2 years old and

weighs around 33-34 lbs. I read here that many of you use predilsone

once per fever episode at the start of an episode. Does this work in

knocking the fever out until the next episode? I am wondering if I'll

be giving my son too much? Does anyone else taper off the

dosage over several days like this, or do most people give just one

dose at the onset of an episode? Thank you for any info you can share.

I hope to start the predilosne next time.

Kind regards,

Ruthie

Mom to , age 2.5, and Gabby 7 months

[Guest guest]

It seems to me that every doctor has a different method for giving

the Prednisone. When my son used to take it, he took about 1/2 tsp.

to 1 tsp (depending on his weight at the time) at the onset of fever

(when we knew it was a fever and not bacterial) and that was

it. There were never instructions to give again during that same

episode.

I have been reading that some of you had some bad experience with

the prednisone affecting your child's mood. We did not have that

experience at all. My son would fall asleep within 1/2 hour of

taking it and then you could feel his temp. dropping as he slept and

he sweated a lot. After an hour or so sleep, he woke up fever free

and totally fine.

It seems that everyone's experience with this drug is so different.

in Tampa, FL

[Guest guest]

Hi -

We were told to use steroids at the onset of a fever with an initial dose of 1

1/2 tsp (7ml), we have since tried to use less and it seemed to work, about 1

tsp and she is now 40 lbs. When did your dr. say to give the steroids and did

he/she say why you need to continue for the next 2 days?

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ruthie,

Wow, that sounds like a lot of prednisolone (Orapred)!

I think that a tapering dose was more common several

years ago until it was discovered that lower doses do

the same job with less side effects.

The very first time we gave the drug, we gave 2mg/kg

(2 tsp for our then 35lb son), and it worked

beautifully. In fact, instead of not eating for 3

days, Eli ate like there was no tomorrow! (increased

appetite can be a side effect of steroids).

We now give 1mg/kg at the beginning of a fever

episode, and try not to repeat the dose. (If Eli's

fever returns at an inopportune time, we have given a

2nd dose on day 3, which is when the fever usually

returns). Incidently, like many of you have

mentioned, if we wait several hours into a fever

episode before giving the steroid, the fever is less

likely to return on day 3. If we give a 2nd dose,

the cycle of fevers comes closer together.

I have not tried a smaller dose than that yet, since

even at the 1mg/kg dose, the fevers more often than

not return by day 3.

Another interesting thing to say:

Two episodes ago I used an Orapred/prednisolones

script filled by Walmart pharmacy for the first time.

It tasted TERRIBLE to my son (completely different

flavor) and DID NOT TAKE HIS FEVER AWAY AT ALL. I

had the script refilled at the hospital where I work,

redosed Eli, and his fever was gone within an hour.

Thanks for listening,

Jen Harvey

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My daughter's Dr. had originally prescribed prednisolone 1x/day to be

taken two consecutive days for each

episode, but I've found that a single dose on the first day aborts

the episode. (2 1/4 tsp of the 15mg/5ml liquid;

50 pound kid). I waited a few YEARS to try it (nervousness about

steroid), and am now so glad we have it; she ends

up getting one dose once or twice a month, in contrast to about 32

doses of alternating acetaminophen & ibuprofin

each episode, plus not eating for a week. She's nasty the day of and

after the prednisolone, but as someone else

pointed out, she'd be cranky anyway in that week of recovery. It

doesn't work for everyone, but right now it is working

for us -- my daughter has big spans of breaks from fevers then spans

of frequent bouts, so right now it'd be hard to tell

how much cimetedine would be helping (not knowing if it was a break

or the medicine).

d Timblin

mdefaye@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Ruthie

I have heard of doctors prescribing a multiple dose. Emma is 2 yrs 3 months but

skinny (24 pounds) and we give her 3ml once in the beginning when the fever

spikes and it then takes it away until the next episode. This works for us so

obviously we wouldn't want to try giving more of the steroid.

During her last fever we gave Prednisone and for the first time it didn't work!

(well it took the fever away but a few hours later it was back up!) and actually

she had tonsillitis not an episode. So we then put her on antibiotics and 24

hours later she was fine.

Good luck!

Inga

[Guest guest]

Hi Ruthie

Our dr advised us to give our son Nikitas 1 1/2 t at the onset of the

fever. We have followed the drs advise and it has knocked out the

fever completely. We never had to give him more than the recommended

dose.

I would try the initial 1 1/2 t your dr advised and you probably won't

need to give the rest of the dosage. For us, the pred. breaks the

fever within 1 to 2 hours. I really don't think you will have to give

your son a second dose. And by the way, our son Nikitas weighs the

same as your son...about 35 lbs.

I hope this helps.

Joann and Nick parents of Lexi 5.5 and Nikitas 4

[Guest guest]

Thank you to all who wrote back to me regarding the dosage of

predilisone. I think we will try it at the next episode, trying 1 1/2

teaspoon at the onset and then waiting to see if we will need any more.

Thanks again, I am so grateful to this group.

Kind regards,

Ruthie

Mom to , age 2.5 and Gabby age 7 months

[Guest guest]

FYI - our daughter is also 35 pounds, but we have found that 3 mls (3/5 of a

teaspoon) of orapred works fine. Our doctor, however, prescribed 2 teaspoons -

but said we could/should use the lowest effective dosage - so we started

reducing it each episode and 3 mls works just as well without the

mean/aggressive behavior. The fevers did get to be 12 days apart when we were

using 2 tsp, but now they are about 35 days apart.

You will likely only need the one dose.

Ginger, Atlanta, GA

Daughter - le, 27 months ( since 7-12 months)

Son - Jay, 6 months.

~Ginger

Systems Solutions Principal, CAR Financial Services

Work: (770) 828-1397

TREO: (404) 915-5035

-----------------------------------------

====================================================

This message contains PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL

information that is intended only for use by the

named recipient. If you are not the named recipient,

any disclosure, dissemination, or action based on

the contents of this message is prohibited. In such

case please notify us and destroy and delete all

copies of this transmission. Thank you.

====================================================

[Guest guest]

Thanks Guillermo,

This helps to know. And, makes sense. I had also had several rounds

of Solumedrol IV treatments prior to starting LDN, too. Yet, my

doctor has prescribed 5 mgs of the Cortef, 2 times/day in divided

doses. I'll have to see whether or not this works for me. And, if

not, will try the once a day dose by 9 AM each morning.

J Lynn

>

> Hi:

> After reading all your posts about adrenal insufficiencies and

other

> complications,I have to tell one thing.

>

> " Plasmatic cortisol(steroid of the body) is produce mainly by

adrenal

> glands between 2am and 9am, so prednisone or any steroid has to be

> taken between this hours to pass unnoticed "

> Someone who takes steroids out of this hours can be expose to all

the

> side effects of steroids, including adrenal insufficiency, because

> when adrenal glands find steroids on unusual hours, they leave

their

> production.

> I remember when I had my first symptom of MS(1993), the doctor

> prescribe me 80mgs of oral prednisone early in the morning and all

> together.

> Some doctors say that if you need a very high dose,you can divide

in

> two takes(1 in the morning 1 in the afternoon), but I dont like

this

> way because if you need a very high dose you better use IV

Solumedrol.

> I have 7 years taking a manteinance dose of prednisone(7.5 mg) and

I

> dont have any of the side effects of steroids.

>

> Guillermo

>

[Guest guest]

You CAN take steroids with LDN without adverse side-effects, but some

feel doing so is contraindicated, that is, they work against each other.

One boosts the immune-system, the other suppresses it.

Art

--

>

> I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN

with

> steroids. Which is it?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if it has changed or not but Dr Skip told me before that steriods, short term, is ok with LDN. Maybe Dr. Skip can answer this...

Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years & 5 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.....

Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website

Crystal's LDN Gift Shop

Crystal's LDN Support Group

Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

LDN Website

[low dose naltrexone] Steroids

I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN with steroids. Which is it?

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

When you posted this it got me really worried as I am on steroids now and started LDN 3 nights ago. I just started my phasing off of the steroids yesterday but I still have 2 weeks left until I'm phased off of the steroids. I found the following information from this URL http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=651 . Because of this information I am going to stop the LDN for 2 weeks until I'm off of the steroids then start back on the LDN. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention! I thought it was just "opiate-like drugs" that couldn't be taken with LDN but it makes sense immune suppressing drugs would also interfere with LDN."Contraindications and Special Precautions: Because LDN stimulates the immune system and many of the drugs routinely used by the NHS in the treatment of MS further suppress the immune system, LDN cannot be used in company with steroids, beta interferon, methotrexate, azathioprine or mitozantrone

or any other immune suppressant drug. If there is any doubt, please

submit a full list of the drugs you are presently taking so that their

compatibility may be assessed. In addition, because LDN will

also block the analgesic effects of any opiate drugs (includes codeine,

dihydrocodeine, tramadol, morphine, pethidine or diamorphine) presently

being taken, the use of LDN will initially greatly increase the level

of pain experienced. It is therefore advisable that any opiate-like

drugs be discontinued at least two weeks before this treatment is

initiated."This also got me thinking if steroids are bad and I didn't realize that maybe I should check asacol which is the other prescription I'm taking and others here might also be taking. I found the following information at this URL http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=forum & action=post & thread=1192377733 & quote=1194508588 & page=1"I have Crohn's and take Asacol. LDN for 1 1/2 months now

at 4.5 mg. Asacol and Pentasa are the same drug, from what I

understand, just targets a slightly different part of the digestive

tract. Anyway, believe that Asacol is not incompatible with

LDN. In the recent Penn State trial, the participants continued taking

it for the duration (if they were in the beginning). Of course they had

to be off steroid and immuno-suppressant drugs. I take my cue from this

to mean that Asacol/Pentasa/other forms of mesalamine are OK with LDN.

Do you have a particularly bad reaction to Pentasa and a strong reason

to want to stop it? If not, from everything I've gathered, it couldn't

hurt and could very well continue to help, even with LDN."Thanks,Jeff

[low dose naltrexone] Steroids

I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN with steroids. Which is it?

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out.

[Guest guest]

You can take it with prednisone--what my physician told me--but the LDN may take longer to work.

The immune system is very complex. Some of the arthritis drugs I am on suppress the B cells. I have not seen any research to date about which immune related cells are enhanced with LDN?? Anyone know? cc

[low dose naltrexone] Steroids

I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN with steroids. Which is it?

No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 2/9/2008 11:54 AM

[Guest guest]

I think it is a good idea to check with your physician. I am on a short burst of prednisone from bronchitis--the physician said that I should go ahead and use the prednisone and continue the LDN. Apparently, at low dosages of prednisone, there are no very harmful risks--just that the LDN will not work as quickly. I do not want to go into pneumonia--so think this is the best course for me. cc

[low dose naltrexone] Steroids

I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN with steroids. Which is it?

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out.

No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 2/9/2008 11:54 AM

[Guest guest]

Hi Marla,This site discusses steroid use with LDN:http://tinyurl.com/yv4a3kBest regards,Dudley Delany

dudley_delanyFrom: marlaprendergast

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2008 11:26 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Steroids

I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN with

steroids. Which is it?

[Guest guest]

Well then I am going to hope that I do NOT test positive for

Temporal Arteritis, because that is treated only with steroids and I

will probably be told to stop the LDN. Which is a shame because it

has done wonders for my dry-eye syndrome.

>

> Hi Marla,

>

> This site discusses steroid use with LDN:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/yv4a3k

>

> Best regards,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

> dudley_delany

>

>

> [low dose naltrexone] Steroids

>

> I know I read something here about how you can or cannot take LDN

with

> steroids. Which is it?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,-

In India most of the prescription medicines, including steroids, are

avaialable over the counter. On Monday 31st March 2008 during field

work, we were with 16 international participants of promoting

rational use of medicines in community course in Jaipur. During the

simulated patient exercise, 11 participants went to private

pharmacies posing to suffer from cough. The pharmacists, on their

own, gave the participants varieties of medicines which included

steroids as well. Will the concerned participants share more about

this ?

Vijay

>

> Hi,

> I am enclosing some information on anabolic steroids (ref:

Wikepedia).

> Can any member like to write more on Gene doping?

>

>

> Anabolic steroids are a class of steroid hormones related to the

hormone testosterone. They increase protein synthesis within cells,

which results in the buildup of cellular tissue (anabolism),

especially in muscles. Anabolic steroids also have androgenic and

virilizing properties, including the development and maintenance of

masculine characteristics such as the growth of the vocal cords and

body hair. The word anabolic comes from the Greek: anabole, " to

build up " , and the word androgenic comes from the Greek:

andros, " man " + genein, " to produce " .

> Anabolic steroids were first isolated, identified and

synthesized in the 1930s, and are now used therapeutically in

medicine to stimulate bone growth and appetite, induce male puberty,

and treat chronic wasting conditions, such as cancer and AIDS.

Anabolic steroids also produce increases in muscle mass and physical

strength, and are consequently used in sport and bodybuilding to

enhance strength or physique. Serious health risks can be produced

by long-term use or excessive doses of anabolic steroids. These

effects include harmful changes in cholesterol levels (increased Low

density lipoprotein and decreased High density lipoprotein), acne,

high blood pressure, liver damage, and dangerous changes in the

structure of the left ventricle of the heart. Some of these effects

can be mitigated by exercise, or by taking supplemental drugs.

> The non-medical use of anabolic steroids is controversial

because of their adverse effects and their use to gain potential

advantage in competitive sports. The use of anabolic steroids is

banned by all major sporting bodies, including the WTA, ITF,

International Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA,the Professional Golf

Association, the National Hockey League, Major League Baseball, the

National Basketball Association, the European Athletic Association

and the National Football League. Anabolic steroids are controlled

substances in many countries, including the United States (U.S.),

Canada, the United Kingdom (UK), Australia, Argentina and Brazil,

while in other countries, such as Mexico and Thailand, they are

freely available. In countries where the drugs are controlled, there

is often a black market in which smuggled or counterfeit drugs are

sold to users. The quality of such illegal drugs may be low, and

contaminants may cause additional health risks. In countries where

> anabolic steroids are strictly regulated, some have called for

less regulation.

>

> Modern times Currently, tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) and

modafinil are causing controversy throughout the sporting world,

with many high profile cases attracting major press coverage as

prominent United States athletes have tested positive for these

doping substances. Some athletes who were found to have used

modafinil protested as the drug was not on the prohibited list at

the time of their offence; however, the World Anti-Doping Agency

(WADA) maintains it is a substance related to those already banned,

so the decisions stand. Modafinil was added to the list of

prohibited substances on August 3, 2004, ten days before the start

of the 2004 Summer Olympics.

> Sports lawyer Gallen has said that the pursuit of

doping athletes has turned into a modern day witch hunt.

>

> Other Many people fall victim to the use of performance

enhancing drugs. Some even have died from usage. This is becoming a

real problem in society. Other doping substances are e.g.:

>

> modafinil (eugeroic)

> In recent years, gene doping has been reported as being an

emerging form of doping. Gene doping would be very difficult to

detect as well as permanent and irreversible

> -Anupama

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Role of steroids in cough? They can be used in asthma (with or without cough). But simply in cough, use is irrational. Moreover, steroids are not OTC drugs. Did the pharmacists dispense them as placebos? -AnupamaVijay <drvijaythawani@...> wrote: Hi,-In India most of the prescription medicines, including steroids, are avaialable over the counter. On Monday 31st March 2008 during field work, we were with 16 international participants of promoting rational use

of medicines in community course in Jaipur. During the simulated patient exercise, 11 participants went to private pharmacies posing to suffer from cough. The pharmacists, on their own, gave the participants varieties of medicines which included steroids as well. Will the concerned participants share more about this ?Vijay>> Hi,> I am enclosing some information on anabolic steroids (ref: Wikepedia).> Can any member like to write more on Gene doping? > > > Anabolic steroids are a class of steroid hormones related to the hormone testosterone. They increase protein synthesis within cells, which results in the buildup of cellular tissue (anabolism), especially in muscles. Anabolic steroids also have androgenic and virilizing properties,

including the development and maintenance of masculine characteristics such as the growth of the vocal cords and body hair. The word anabolic comes from the Greek: anabole, "to build up", and the word androgenic comes from the Greek: andros, "man" + genein, "to produce".> Anabolic steroids were first isolated, identified and synthesized in the 1930s, and are now used therapeutically in medicine to stimulate bone growth and appetite, induce male puberty, and treat chronic wasting conditions, such as cancer and AIDS. Anabolic steroids also produce increases in muscle mass and physical strength, and are consequently used in sport and bodybuilding to enhance strength or physique. Serious health risks can be produced by long-term use or excessive doses of anabolic steroids. These effects include harmful changes in cholesterol levels (increased Low density lipoprotein and decreased High density lipoprotein), acne,

high blood pressure, liver damage, and dangerous changes in the structure of the left ventricle of the heart. Some of these effects can be mitigated by exercise, or by taking supplemental drugs.> The non-medical use of anabolic steroids is controversial because of their adverse effects and their use to gain potential advantage in competitive sports. The use of anabolic steroids is banned by all major sporting bodies, including the WTA, ITF, International Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA,the Professional Golf Association, the National Hockey League, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the European Athletic Association and the National Football League. Anabolic steroids are controlled substances in many countries, including the United States (U.S.), Canada, the United Kingdom (UK), Australia, Argentina and Brazil, while in other countries, such as Mexico and Thailand, they are freely

available. In countries where the drugs are controlled, there is often a black market in which smuggled or counterfeit drugs are sold to users. The quality of such illegal drugs may be low, and contaminants may cause additional health risks. In countries where> anabolic steroids are strictly regulated, some have called for less regulation.> > Modern times Currently, tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) and modafinil are causing controversy throughout the sporting world, with many high profile cases attracting major press coverage as prominent United States athletes have tested positive for these doping substances. Some athletes who were found to have used modafinil protested as the drug was not on the prohibited list at the time of their offence; however, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) maintains it is a substance related to those already banned, so the decisions stand. Modafinil was added to the list of

prohibited substances on August 3, 2004, ten days before the start of the 2004 Summer Olympics.> Sports lawyer Gallen has said that the pursuit of doping athletes has turned into a modern day witch hunt. > > Other Many people fall victim to the use of performance enhancing drugs. Some even have died from usage. This is becoming a real problem in society. Other doping substances are e.g.:> > modafinil (eugeroic) > In recent years, gene doping has been reported as being an emerging form of doping. Gene doping would be very difficult to detect as well as permanent and irreversible> -Anupama> > > ---------------------------------> Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.>

Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

It was the foreigners who were dispensed steroids, probably since the pharmacist thought that they would not object or come back if any problem arose. less said the better.

I am enclosing some information on stem cell technology in sports.

Stem Cell Technology spin-off

Like gene doping, which involves transferring genes into human cells to blend directly into an athlete's own DNA, it is thought that an athlete's stem cells could be injected back into the body. The regenerative powers of stem cells offer countless sporting possibilities, such as increasing endurance, speed, flexibility and strength.

Griffiths, managing director of CryoGenesis International, which stores umbilical cord blood in its bank for potential later therapeutic use,believes that stem cells technology could produce super-athletes. He believes that injecting stem cells into healthy muscles might increase their size and even restore them to their youthful capacity.

"You could potentially find a 40-year-old man with 20-year-old legs," Griffiths said.

Though such applications remain highly experimental, anti-doping authorities are already gearing for their arrival in sports. And while experts agree that testing for an individual's own stem cells reintroduced into the body would be virtually impossible, that does not mean that stem cell abuse would be undetectable.

what say?

kunda

Hi,-In India most of the prescription medicines, including steroids, are avaialable over the counter. On Monday 31st March 2008 during field work, we were with 16 international participants of promoting rational use of medicines in community course in Jaipur. During the simulated patient exercise, 11 participants went to private pharmacies posing to suffer from cough. The pharmacists, on their own, gave the participants varieties of medicines which included steroids as well. Will the concerned participants share more about this ?Vijay>> Hi,> I am enclosing some information on anabolic steroids (ref: Wikepedia).> Can any member like to write more on Gene doping? > > > Anabolic steroids are a class

of steroid hormones related to the hormone testosterone. They increase protein synthesis within cells, which results in the buildup of cellular tissue (anabolism), especially in muscles. Anabolic steroids also have androgenic and virilizing properties, including the development and maintenance of masculine characteristics such as the growth of the vocal cords and body hair. The word anabolic comes from the Greek: anabole, "to build up", and the word androgenic comes from the Greek: andros, "man" + genein, "to produce".> Anabolic steroids were first isolated, identified and synthesized in the 1930s, and are now used therapeutically in medicine to stimulate bone growth and appetite, induce male puberty, and treat chronic wasting conditions, such as cancer and AIDS. Anabolic steroids also produce increases in muscle mass and physical strength, and are consequently used in sport and bodybuilding to

enhance strength or physique. Serious health risks can be produced by long-term use or excessive doses of anabolic steroids. These effects include harmful changes in cholesterol levels (increased Low density lipoprotein and decreased High density lipoprotein) , acne, high blood pressure, liver damage, and dangerous changes in the structure of the left ventricle of the heart. Some of these effects can be mitigated by exercise, or by taking supplemental drugs.> The non-medical use of anabolic steroids is controversial because of their adverse effects and their use to gain potential advantage in competitive sports. The use of anabolic steroids is banned by all major sporting bodies, including the WTA, ITF, International Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA,the Professional Golf Association, the National Hockey League, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the European Athletic

Association and the National Football League. Anabolic steroids are controlled substances in many countries, including the United States (U.S..), Canada, the United Kingdom (UK), Australia, Argentina and Brazil, while in other countries, such as Mexico and Thailand, they are freely available. In countries where the drugs are controlled, there is often a black market in which smuggled or counterfeit drugs are sold to users. The quality of such illegal drugs may be low, and contaminants may cause additional health risks. In countries where> anabolic steroids are strictly regulated, some have called for less regulation.> > Modern times Currently, tetrahydrogestrinon e (THG) and modafinil are causing controversy throughout the sporting world, with many high profile cases attracting major press coverage as prominent United States athletes have tested positive for these doping substances.

Some athletes who were found to have used modafinil protested as the drug was not on the prohibited list at the time of their offence; however, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) maintains it is a substance related to those already banned, so the decisions stand. Modafinil was added to the list of prohibited substances on August 3, 2004, ten days before the start of the 2004 Summer Olympics.> Sports lawyer Gallen has said that the pursuit of doping athletes has turned into a modern day witch hunt. > > Other Many people fall victim to the use of performance enhancing drugs. Some even have died from usage. This is becoming a real problem in society. Other doping substances are e.g.:> > modafinil (eugeroic) > In recent years, gene doping has been reported as being an emerging form of doping. Gene doping would be very difficult to detect as well as permanent and

irreversible> -Anupama> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.>

Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.

Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here

[Guest guest]

Dear Kunda madam, I don't know whether to blame the pharmacists only for irrational dispensing or to blame the entire system. Everything seems possible here because even banned drugs are advertised and sold off as OTCs. Regarding stem cell therapy as a method of doping, it seems new. But who knows before novel methods to detect their use by atheletes are discovered, many world records would have been broken and gold medals awarded. Even PLATINUM medals would be less for such super-humans. Anti-ageing drugs like Melatonin are coming up, and now stem-cell therapies for turning 40s to 20s! Thanks madam for your valuable posting Waiting to hear more from you. -Anupama.kunda gharpure <gharpurekunda@...> wrote: Hello, It was the foreigners who were dispensed steroids, probably since the pharmacist thought that they would not object or come back if any problem arose. less said the better. I am enclosing some information on stem cell technology in sports. Stem Cell Technology spin-off Like gene doping, which involves

transferring genes into human cells to blend directly into an athlete's own DNA, it is thought that an athlete's stem cells could be injected back into the body. The regenerative powers of stem cells offer countless sporting possibilities, such as increasing endurance, speed, flexibility and strength. Griffiths, managing director of CryoGenesis International, which stores umbilical cord blood in its bank for potential later therapeutic use,believes that stem cells technology could produce super-athletes. He believes that injecting stem cells into healthy muscles might increase their size and even restore them to their youthful capacity. "You could potentially find a 40-year-old man with

20-year-old legs," Griffiths said. Though such applications remain highly experimental, anti-doping authorities are already gearing for their arrival in sports. And while experts agree that testing for an individual's own stem cells reintroduced into the body would be virtually impossible, that does not mean that stem cell abuse would be undetectable. what say? kunda Hi,-In India most of the prescription medicines, including steroids, are avaialable over the counter. On Monday 31st March 2008 during field work, we were with 16 international participants of promoting rational use of

medicines in community course in Jaipur. During the simulated patient exercise, 11 participants went to private pharmacies posing to suffer from cough. The pharmacists, on their own, gave the participants varieties of medicines which included steroids as well. Will the concerned participants share more about this ?Vijay>> Hi,> I am enclosing some information on anabolic steroids (ref: Wikepedia).> Can any member like to write more on Gene doping? > > > Anabolic steroids are a class of steroid hormones related to the hormone testosterone. They increase protein synthesis within cells, which results in the buildup of cellular tissue (anabolism), especially in muscles. Anabolic steroids also have androgenic and virilizing

properties, including the development and maintenance of masculine characteristics such as the growth of the vocal cords and body hair. The word anabolic comes from the Greek: anabole, "to build up", and the word androgenic comes from the Greek: andros, "man" + genein, "to produce".> Anabolic steroids were first isolated, identified and synthesized in the 1930s, and are now used therapeutically in medicine to stimulate bone growth and appetite, induce male puberty, and treat chronic wasting conditions, such as cancer and AIDS. Anabolic steroids also produce increases in muscle mass and physical strength, and are consequently used in sport and bodybuilding to enhance strength or physique. Serious health risks can be produced by long-term use or excessive doses of anabolic steroids. These effects include harmful changes in cholesterol levels (increased Low density lipoprotein and decreased High density lipoprotein) ,

acne, high blood pressure, liver damage, and dangerous changes in the structure of the left ventricle of the heart. Some of these effects can be mitigated by exercise, or by taking supplemental drugs.> The non-medical use of anabolic steroids is controversial because of their adverse effects and their use to gain potential advantage in competitive sports. The use of anabolic steroids is banned by all major sporting bodies, including the WTA, ITF, International Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA,the Professional Golf Association, the National Hockey League, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the European Athletic Association and the National Football League. Anabolic steroids are controlled substances in many countries, including the United States (U.S..), Canada, the United Kingdom (UK), Australia, Argentina and Brazil, while in other countries, such as Mexico and Thailand, they are freely

available. In countries where the drugs are controlled, there is often a black market in which smuggled or counterfeit drugs are sold to users. The quality of such illegal drugs may be low, and contaminants may cause additional health risks. In countries where> anabolic steroids are strictly regulated, some have called for less regulation.> > Modern times Currently, tetrahydrogestrinon e (THG) and modafinil are causing controversy throughout the sporting world, with many high profile cases attracting major press coverage as prominent United States athletes have tested positive for these doping substances. Some athletes who were found to have used modafinil protested as the drug was not on the prohibited list at the time of their offence; however, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) maintains it is a substance related to those already banned, so the decisions stand. Modafinil was added to the list of

prohibited substances on August 3, 2004, ten days before the start of the 2004 Summer Olympics.> Sports lawyer Gallen has said that the pursuit of doping athletes has turned into a modern day witch hunt. > > Other Many people fall victim to the use of performance enhancing drugs. Some even have died from usage. This is becoming a real problem in society. Other doping substances are e.g.:> > modafinil (eugeroic) > In recent years, gene doping has been reported as being an emerging form of doping. Gene doping would be very difficult to detect as well as permanent and irreversible> -Anupama> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here

Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.

[Guest guest]

Venizia,

You wrote:

> ... However, last Monday I

> came down with something call iritis; an inflammation inside my eye

> (apparently an autoimmune condition) I did not realize it was

> prednisone drops that he gave me. He gave me something called pred-forte.

Opthalmic suspensions are only 1% concentrations. Even with frequent

drops, you will be getting at most a few mg of prednisone per day. In

contrast, the " shock " treatments they sometimes prescribe orally can

involve up to 200 mg per day. They also have strategies where you take

something like 80 mg every other day, so you can stay on the stuff

longer without much risk.

Most of the possible side effects listed for Pred-forte are directly for

the eye. Unless you are allergic, systemic effects are very unlikely

unless you keep using the drops for an extended time.

Iritis is not necessarily an autoimmune problem.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

>

> Iritis is not necessarily an autoimmune problem.

>

> Chuck

Thanks Chuck it eases my mind somewhat. My doctor did say it was

autoimmune like arthritis etc.

Venizia

>