Going on Leave - Re: Letter/Political Action Group

[Guest guest]

Jack,

Don't leave. This is a tough issue. Sometimes situations call for tough

stances when there are so many lives on the line and so much work to do.

As I understand it, we are hopefully soon to come to a resolution over a

matter that occurred about seven weeks ago that has had a rippling and

dividing effect in the mold community.

I know that you understood my concerns and even voiced a need to correct.

But it wasn't done. The problem was left to fester and grow while a lot

was going on with ACHEMMIC trying to get the POA paper out.

The paper is out. It is a great addition to help the sick and injured.

Now, its time to correct the error, so we can all move on and support each

others' efforts as we work to solve this multifaceted problem from all angles.

You, me, Carl, KC, Melinda, Ritchie and many others have been comrades in

this fight for a looooong time. I think we have found a viable solution to

the problem. As such, there is certainly no reason to part ways forever if

a solution can be reached. Just hang in for a couple days. Hopefully

this matter will be over and put to bed.

WR,

Sharon

In a message dated 8/19/2010 6:36:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

: Everyone: I am also leaving the SickBuilding forum for the same reason

as Carl. I was a member of the original Executive Committee of ACHEMMIC and

voted with many other members of the committee to support the letters to

UC. I also voted and still vote to support Sharon. However, the Executive

Committee no longer exits since the incorporation of ACHEMMIC. I have

attempted in the past to intercede in this matter. I was not successful. Sharon

can

continue to make request of ACHEMMIC. I am not in a position any longer to

breach this subject with ACHEMMIC. It will have to wait for the Board of

Directors, whom ever they may be. I am not one of them.

KC, I trust you will honor my right to speak out and post this.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

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Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

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775-309-3994 - Cell

[Guest guest]

Sharon, I am leaving the group as I have said. As long as the ACHEMMIC issue is

brought up on this forum and addressing me about the issue, I will stay out of

forum. I told you some time ago that I was tired of receiving your emails on

this issue. I even asked you not to email, but have continue to do so. I did

not block you, I wanted to know if you would honor my request. You did nt.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

sandracrawley@...

916-745-4703 - Off

775-309-3994 - Cell

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jack,

Really sorry to see resign from the group. I wish you all the best as you

move forward with your life and put this long experience behind you. You

have been an important part of the process on this board, and you will be

missed.

I hate to bring this up when we are trying to put this matter to bed but

feel I must. There is an error in your parting statement to Sickbuildings

that needs to be set straight. Remember receiving this email from me just

four days ago in response to one you sent to me?

In a message dated 8/16/2010 9:56:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

SNK1955@... writes:

Why are you emailing me? You said you blocked me since I refused to

accept the lack of transparent answers within ACHEMMIC that stimie the type of

work Dina just helped with greatly to expose the deceit in the politics.

You tell me you have blocked my emails - just as you have assisted to

block my message.

Please do not email me anymore when you tell me my words to you are

blocked.

Sharon

In a message dated 8/19/2010 9:48:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

Sharon, I am leaving the group as I have said. As long as the ACHEMMIC

issue is brought up on this forum and addressing me about the issue, I will

stay out of forum. I told you some time ago that I was tired of receiving

your emails on this issue. I even asked you not to email, but have continue to

do so. I did not block you, I wanted to know if you would honor my

request. You did nt.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

In a message dated 8/19/2010 7:02:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

SNK1955@... writes:

Jack,

Don't leave. This is a tough issue. Sometimes situations call for tough

stances when there are so many lives on the line and so much work to do.

As I understand it, we are hopefully soon to come to a resolution over a

matter that occurred about seven weeks ago that has had a rippling and

dividing effect in the mold community.

I know that you understood my concerns and even voiced a need to correct.

But it wasn't done. The problem was left to fester and grow while a lot

was going on with ACHEMMIC trying to get the POA paper out.

The paper is out. It is a great addition to help the sick and injured.

Now, its time to correct the error, so we can all move on and support each

others' efforts as we work to solve this multifaceted problem from all angles.

You, me, Carl, KC, Melinda, Ritchie and many others have been comrades in

this fight for a looooong time. I think we have found a viable solution to

the problem. As such, there is certainly no reason to part ways forever if

a solution can be reached. Just hang in for a couple days. Hopefully

this matter will be over and put to bed.

WR,

Sharon

In a message dated 8/19/2010 6:36:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

: Everyone: I am also leaving the SickBuilding forum for the same reason

as Carl. I was a member of the original Executive Committee of ACHEMMIC and

voted with many other members of the committee to support the letters to

UC. I also voted and still vote to support Sharon. However, the Executive

Committee no longer exits since the incorporation of ACHEMMIC. I have

attempted in the past to intercede in this matter. I was not successful. Sharon

can continue to make request of ACHEMMIC. I am not in a position any longer

to breach this subject with ACHEMMIC. It will have to wait for the Board of

Directors, whom ever they may be. I am not one of them.

KC, I trust you will honor my right to speak out and post this.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

That's what it sounded like to me w/Jack & Melinda. Didn't get that

impression about Carl. Who knows? Have not heard from them today.

Sharon

In a message dated 8/20/2010 5:24:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

are you saying they are both gone for good?

[Guest guest]

Boy, this is a real tough time for a lot of people. I'm so sorry you're leaving

and more so that you feel so alone in this. 

I too have had times where posts have gone unanswered and sometimes I felt bad

too-- but I then had to work hard to remind myself that so many are ill on the

list, its hard for everyone to reply or even get through every single email. So

while at times I felt bad for sometimes not getting any replies-- I had to

remind myself of the times when I was so exhausted or out of it that I had to

delete emails totally, or just pick those that I thought I could answer half-way

intelligently or could benefit from. 

I've had some decent energy today for the first time in weeks, and have written

about 7 or so replies today, but I can tell you there were at least three that I

started to reply to and didn;t sent because I could not put the thoughts into

words literally. So, I'd hope that someone else more articulate, experienced or

less exahsuted at the moment would pick up the slack. One thread I could muster

a decent answer to today being the threads on " ionisers " . 

And in your case and mine and others who went unanswered it probebly was very

much like that-- people being so wiped out they hve to pick and choose what they

read and reply to. 

The best thing to do is something like what Sally said, give everyone a pass,

don't assume the worst and ask the question again. This happens on the other

lists I've been on (am so weak am not on any others now, lol).  On another list

I was on, they were aware of the flurry of posts and many going unanswered so

they suggested putting the words " bump " in front of the subject which meant that

this was a post that was made before but not replied to. This would alert

members and then often there would be a few to a bunch of replies. Just a

thought.

You are right, this is so isolating to have this illness. No words can change

that at all. And it is extremely courageous for you to pour your heart out to

people on a list, most of whom we have no idea who they are. I'm sorry that at

times you've gone without a response. But I will bet it was not unheard as there

were probably many that wanted to but could not reply. 

The hardest thing may be to not give into the isolation or the feelings of no

one is caring or understanding. I think sadly due to the amount of posts each

day and the lack of energy and time so many have---  that many people's

heartfelt and often desperate pleas may have gone without a clear or really

helpful reply. I assure it was not intentional. 

You are not alone. Whatever you do, wherever you go-- you are not alone. 

God Bless,Sam

--- On Sat, 8/21/10, ldelp84227 <ldelp84227@...> wrote I am sad to read this

info. I have not been on much because of my husband's illness. I also have not

been on much during the last year because any time I would write something no

one would say a word. It is so isolating to have this illness but when you pour

your heart out and no says a word you lose interest and move on.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sam, Barb, Sharon,etc. just don't want to be invisible.

Your words touched me and I will try to be stronger.

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> Sam, Beautifully said. It is hard to get through the posts.

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