Re: PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed again ?

[Guest guest]

I'm not a Dr. but I do know I had my arms and hands go numb, painful feet,

Joint/muscle pain, horrible headaches and very difficult to get moving in

the AM. Never did have any hand swelling.

I have some symptoms I would like help with.

1. My arms go to sleep and are painful

2. One toe on my foot is numb.

3. Joint pain

4. swelling hands

5. headaches

6. movement problems when I awake

[Guest guest]

For your arms & legs, feet pain & numbness, you can try Tai Chi Chuh.   I

used

to get a variety of sharp, stabbing, dull pains in arms and legs and even my

toes, and my arms, legs, fingers & hands went numb at night in bed and even

during while sitting in a chair. 

Three times over the last 5 yrs I had those symptoms and each time when I

started doing the Tai Chi faithfully every day, the pain & numbness went away

over a 2- weeks to a few months timeframe, plus my balance has improved & I

rarely fall (I am in my 60s-- am prone to bloodclots, have edema, arthritis). 

Tai Chi Chuh is an easier version to learn, took me about a year to get it all

going (arms, legs) with some coordination.  It takes time and practice.  It is

boring (I used to do aerobics, can't now because of my ankle & knees bothering

me) but well worth doing.  I wake up each day feeling ill, exhausted-- 1st

thing

I do is put a sheet on the living room floor and do the Tai-- makes me feel

better and alive after the session (at least for a few hours), then I get

breakfast.

Like most seniors, I am on limited funds, love to get things for free.  I have

a

DVD recorder, borrowed a number of Tai Chi Chuh discs/ tapes when they still had

them on the shelves and made copies of the 2 sessions/instructors I liked the

best.  I have the 20 movements memorized so now I do them without the tapes/

discs.

It is amazing how the pain went away-- Tai stimulates the muscles, nerves &

bones.  It seems to improve breathing.   I believe it also tones the

muscles.  I

have been doing the Tai 1-2 times a day for 1-1/2 yrs and discovered I could get

into 3 pair of slacks (6 mos ago) that were tight 2 yrs ago.  Recently, I got

into 2 T-shirts that were too snug around the gut-- and I have not lost weight.

Some years ago I got several of my girl friends doing Tai-- by having them do it

with me in their/my living room, then making copies of the version they

liked for them.  I absolutely hated Tai Chi at first, but because I cannot do

aerobics & swimming (chemicals & pollution here) and was afraid of blood

clots/PAD, I had to make the effort and am very glad I did.

If you can afford a class ( & tolerate the room MCS-wise), you might take a class

to get you started.

....Corky

________________________________

From: dragonflymcs dragonflymcs@...

I have some symptoms I would like help with. 

1. My arms go to sleep and are painful

2. One toe on my foot is numb.

3. Joint pain

4. swelling hands

5. headaches

6. movement problems when I awake

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Corky for all the great info.  I have edema too !!

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: corky lux <corkylux1@...>

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:45:44 PM

Subject: Re: [] PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

For your arms & legs, feet pain & numbness, you can try Tai Chi Chuh.   I

used

to get a variety of sharp, stabbing, dull pains in arms and legs and even my

toes, and my arms, legs, fingers & hands went numb at night in bed and even

during while sitting in a chair. 

Three times over the last 5 yrs I had those symptoms and each time when I

started doing the Tai Chi faithfully every day, the pain & numbness went away

over a 2- weeks to a few months timeframe, plus my balance has improved & I

rarely fall (I am in my 60s-- am prone to bloodclots, have edema, arthritis). 

Tai Chi Chuh is an easier version to learn, took me about a year to get it all

going (arms, legs) with some coordination.  It takes time and practice.  It is

boring (I used to do aerobics, can't now because of my ankle & knees bothering

me) but well worth doing.  I wake up each day feeling ill, exhausted-- 1st

thing

I do is put a sheet on the living room floor and do the Tai-- makes me feel

better and alive after the session (at least for a few hours), then I get

breakfast.

Like most seniors, I am on limited funds, love to get things for free.  I have

a

DVD recorder, borrowed a number of Tai Chi Chuh discs/ tapes when they still had

them on the shelves and made copies of the 2 sessions/instructors I liked the

best.  I have the 20 movements memorized so now I do them without the tapes/

discs.

It is amazing how the pain went away-- Tai stimulates the muscles, nerves &

bones.  It seems to improve breathing.   I believe it also tones the

muscles.  I

have been doing the Tai 1-2 times a day for 1-1/2 yrs and discovered I could get

into 3 pair of slacks (6 mos ago) that were tight 2 yrs ago.  Recently, I got

into 2 T-shirts that were too snug around the gut-- and I have not lost weight.

Some years ago I got several of my girl friends doing Tai-- by having them do it

with me in their/my living room, then making copies of the version they

liked for them.  I absolutely hated Tai Chi at first, but because I cannot do

aerobics & swimming (chemicals & pollution here) and was afraid of blood

clots/PAD, I had to make the effort and am very glad I did.

If you can afford a class ( & tolerate the room MCS-wise), you might take a class

to get you started.

....Corky

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing, I see more than one person has similarities.  Did this

happen while being exposed or surface later ?  

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: " ssr3351@... " <ssr3351@...>

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 11:42:01 AM

Subject: Re: [] PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

I'm not a Dr. but I do know I had my arms and hands go numb, painful feet,

Joint/muscle pain, horrible headaches and very difficult to get moving in

the AM. Never did have any hand swelling.

I have some symptoms I would like help with.

1. My arms go to sleep and are painful

2. One toe on my foot is numb.

3. Joint pain

4. swelling hands

5. headaches

6. movement problems when I awake

[Guest guest]

My symptoms were ongoing while exposed at my school. After leaving and

taking CSM my symptoms are gone. The headache, brain fog and flu like symptoms

return if I've been in a bad place or near certain fragrances.

Thank you for sharing, I see more than one person has similarities. Did

this

happen while being exposed or surface later ?

[Guest guest]

Thank you,

I do not know what is making me sick now, trying to figure it out.  I am not

having a respiratory reaction to building, can left over mold do this ?  can I

be exposed again and not have a respiratory reaction?

 

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: " ssr3351@... " <ssr3351@...>

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 9:50:10 PM

Subject: Re: [] PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

My symptoms were ongoing while exposed at my school. After leaving and

taking CSM my symptoms are gone. The headache, brain fog and flu like symptoms

return if I've been in a bad place or near certain fragrances.

Thank you for sharing, I see more than one person has similarities. Did

this

happen while being exposed or surface later ?

[Guest guest]

Have you had any water intrusions into your home or found mold? Do you feel

better when you leave your home?

>

> Thank you,

> I do not know what is making me sick now, trying to figure it out.  I am not

> having a respiratory reaction to building, can left over mold do this ?  can

I

> be exposed again and not have a respiratory reaction?

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

[Guest guest]

I cannot speak for others, but after my repeated exposures, I no longer just had

to guard against mold and toxins in the air.  I have had to alter my diet

completely, in that my immune system became so hyperalert that I began reacting

adversely to food and allergens to which I had never--in my 56 years--reacted so

adversely.  I no longer can tolerate ANY additives, gluten, dairy, sugar...on

and on.  It seems that the only way I know I can tolerate food is if I eat REAL

foods, likes beans, fruit, and vegetables, and those must be grown without any

pesticides.  So...again, I don't know if others have found that their

sensitivities progressed after years' long exposures to mold and toxins, but

that has been my experience.  In addition, I can only use vinegar and baking

soda for cleaning; otherwise, I am breathless and have

cognitive/bodily/emotional reactions that are frightening.  My life is no

longer

one of casual, cavalier, spontaneous living, but rather one of being very

intentional about my surroundings, my stress levels, and my diet.  Ah, well, at

least I'm alive and know that I can never, ever re-expose myself to toxins, even

if this means I cannot return to work.  Sad, as I love my job, but I can't risk

re-entering the buildings that I believe almost killed me!  Good luck to you,

and I'll look forward to hearing other comments...

This site saved me in so many ways, by the way.  I found my doctor--and my

life-saving treatment here!!!  

Thanks, everyone!

 

________________________________

From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...>

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 10:35:46 AM

Subject: Re: [] PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

Thank you,

I do not know what is making me sick now, trying to figure it out.  I am not

having a respiratory reaction to building, can left over mold do this ?  can I

be exposed again and not have a respiratory reaction?

 

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: " ssr3351@... " <ssr3351@...>

Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 9:50:10 PM

Subject: Re: [] PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

My symptoms were ongoing while exposed at my school. After leaving and

taking CSM my symptoms are gone. The headache, brain fog and flu like symptoms

return if I've been in a bad place or near certain fragrances.

Thank you for sharing, I see more than one person has similarities. Did

this

happen while being exposed or surface later ?

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing,

I find myself to be very much like you and I do all those things you mentioned,

which is why I am considering some kind of exposure. 

I know I was pesticided in May and since everyone has been in a decline of some

sort.  My little girl passed Ms Honey) and my boy became paralized ) he is

 walking again.  Both he and I have are having over active nerve problems.

My problem is I am having a hard time making out what it is. Left over pesticide

contamination, mold again, (but I am not having a respiratory reaction ) so I am

confused and stumped right now.  Usualy I can figure out what it is.  Now I am

cluless. 

  Can I be tested instead and tell the difference betwwen one and the other?

We are once again trying to get out.  That is going to take us a while.  (not

new) wish we could just run out.  Any imput would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: sally braithwaite-marshalll <mustangsally2254@...>

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 3:33:20 PM

Subject: Re: [] PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

I cannot speak for others, but after my repeated exposures, I no longer just had

to guard against mold and toxins in the air.  I have had to alter my diet

completely, in that my immune system became so hyperalert that I began reacting

adversely to food and allergens to which I had never--in my 56 years--reacted so

adversely.  I no longer can tolerate ANY additives, gluten, dairy, sugar...on

and on.  It seems that the only way I know I can tolerate food is if I eat REAL

foods, likes beans, fruit, and vegetables, and those must be grown without any

pesticides.  So...again, I don't know if others have found that

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tug,

I have not noitced any water intrusion.  Have not found mold but that does not

mean there is none, having gone threw that in my home.  It was not very visible

but the report was devastating.  Behind drywalls etc.  There is one room here

,

which we do not use that has had an odor I cannot figure out.  But it is gone

lately.  We are going to seal all the ducts and air handler and see it there is

a difference in anything or until we get out again. 

This county went threw 4 hurricanes , 2 storms  flooding and I know there is

mold in  many places, I react to those almost immediately,  can left over mold

by products from a clean up do this ?? 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 2:00:19 PM

Subject: [] Re: PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

Have you had any water intrusions into your home or found mold? Do you feel

better when you leave your home?

[Guest guest]

yes, things you eat can play a role and sometimes you just cant smell what is

getting to you.

>

> Thank you for sharing,

>

> I find myself to be very much like you and I do all those things

you mentioned,

> which is why I am considering some kind of exposure. 

>

> I know I was pesticided in May and since everyone has been in a decline of

some

> sort.  My little girl passed Ms Honey) and my boy became paralized ) he is

>  walking again.  Both he and I have are having over active nerve problems.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, this time I cannot smell what is making me sick, nor feel it in my lungs to

guide me in a direction.

 

 God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 8:12:58 PM

Subject: [] Re: PLEASE How do you Know if you are being exposed

again ?

 

yes, things you eat can play a role and sometimes you just cant smell what is

getting to you.

>

> Thank you for sharing,

>

> I find myself to be very much like you and I do all those things

>you mentioned,

> which is why I am considering some kind of exposure. 

>

> I know I was pesticided in May and since everyone has been in a decline of

some

> sort.  My little girl passed Ms Honey) and my boy became paralized ) he is

>  walking again.  Both he and I have are having over active nerve

problems.

>

>