KICKBACK or HARD EARNED WAGE?

[Guest guest]

Is all WELL in the WELL centres?

This year, 2010, the Big Pharma companies have started to divulge which people

get what money. Less than half so far but at least it exposes some who say the

world

is safe (and your wife and child) in your doctors hands.

It makes interesting reading with many people (doctors and government) getting

nothing and lots getting sums which seem insignificant. A hundred dollars is not

much in

today's world with many getting more than this for an hours work in the legal or

government fields.

Many doctors are defending the payouts as normal. Give a talk and you expect

someone to pay you. NORMAL.

Do research and we know already from public knowledge that the sums involved are

more normally in the millions than in the sums discussed here. Some seem to run

off

with the millions rather than do much work to justify at least a few percent of

it.

Just a few months ago there was a discussion on perks from Big Pharma showing

the total ignorance of people. The idea that people would get paid more than a

free

biro was not considered possible, with claims of: Where is the evidence and the

notion that all is well in the WELL industry.

VIOXX is taken as the exception of one drug that we know can cause harm.

The truth is very, very disturbing. Dozens of drugs under suspicion are STILL

being used in 2010. But with sales of a billion or many billions, to stop them

because of the

obvious fact they kill is unthinkable while DOUBT of their harm can be seen by

some doctors.

Top earnings for SPEAKERS are tens of thousands of dollars, while others get

amounts reflecting a working persons expectations. In the crazy world of Big

Pharma we

see people getting hundreds of thousands who are in the clear with the FDA and

hundred dollar earners who get warning letters, fines and more sanctions from

the

FDA.

It is difficult to explain why one speaker gets a hundred dollars with other

speakers getting a hundred thousand dollars for the SAME job. While transparency

is getting

clearer on payouts, the reasons why some get a thousand times more than others

is UNCLEAR.

While no one, except the justice department can say if these payments are

illegal, it is certain that some training institutes have specifically BANNED

their staff from these

payments and are embarrassed to find that they are still getting these payments

in defiance of the institute rules. The institute is embarrassed and not the

training staff

who cannot it seems refuse this money and do not understand embarrassment

perhaps. Not many say they will stop just that they will think for a few seconds

only

before carrying on as before perhaps.

The 1 500 pound UK per day to Sir Doll from Monsanto opened up the fact

that such payments were being made decades ago but still the obligation to

divulge

payments does not become compulsory this year, next year or the year after. And

of course their is nothing illegal in receiving a hundred dollars or a hundred

thousand

dollars for the same lecture for different people. So we are being told.

Time enough for some forward payments or other ways to make such payments

without the public knowing.

We have no way, as members of the public to get this information and rely on

those with the ability who are prepared to name if not shame these people. It

was not the

CNN, nor NBC nor Fox News nor most of the known journalists and companies that

got this information to us.

We know government employees also get these payments and here it is less clear

why they get the money but they do. Here the word lobbying seems to explain why

they get huge suls of money from Big Pharma. So what are they lobbying for?

Certainly in the vaccine world you can inject a person to death a million times

over and not

even have an accusation of serial killer levelled at you. Harold Shipman had two

hundred criminal deaths and no one even noticed this death rate in one medical

practice.

Only when a new patient dropped dead and left all possessions including a house

to him did the police and medical world think that all was not right.

Looking at these million sudden unexpected deaths and rising numbers of children

with permanent illness you realise that uncertainty makes any jusdgement on

doctors

or the injection of a brain destroying chemical is in ordinary terms an

IMPOSSIBILITY just as much as saying that a secret, unknown payout of a hundred

thousand dollars

to a man earning less than that in his only known occupation is NORMAL and

HONEST.

The sums involved naturally make those of Al Capone and the MAFIA look like they

are mean organisations and even the Big Pharma while it can pay some several

hundred thousand dollars for many years is only able to pay some a few dollars,

just enough to get them in the same bracket as those for whom the amounts cannot

be

conceived by the normal person as remuneration for speaking in the normal world

of commerce.

Not only are some decidely poor speakers but poorly qualified and dishonoured

already in their medial past.

It would be interesting to have a list of those who refused money given by Big

Pharma but we all know those hundred dollar payouts can easily become hundred

thousand dollar payouts too. Common sense tells us those top earners did not

just get those sums for no good reason. Common sense tells us those that refuse

payouts

will be quite a short list if a list at all.

Even from my own amateur dealings I have seen in similar spheres people who

understood the harm of say an insecticide or some product ( thimerosal

containing

vaccines and its harm for example) only then to turn round and say that we have

no knowledge for harm for what they said earlier was clearly harmful to all only

months

or years before. Usually when they get promoted into higher levels or even take

the world of the revolving door, government to industry and back and forth. For

the GMO

regulator of Europe again in defiance of legal contracts forbidding such

actions.

The only sense I can make for these payments is NO SENSE but the fact they have

been paid out in presumably ever increasing amounts shows that they do get their

loyalty and the money just keeps coming in.

In a NORMAL world, all of these payouts would be INVESTIGATED directly by the

police. In fact I am not clear if a police complaint was made that an

investigation would

and shoul begin.

One of the top earners for Pfizer actually being one of those former heros who

were first to name and shame VIOXX when the harm was only clear to Merck

researchers and not their rivals, Pfizer.

Medical doctors thought of as heros for denouncing bad drugs were in fact rather

just denouncing them to up sales for their paymasters and their paymasters

products.

If past esperience is anything to go by we will never control these payouts and

the defiance by training teachers who go against their own employers wishes show

clearly: He who pays the piper, does call the tune.

Anyone who places the least reliance on those research papers or quangos with

parties with interest even when declared should ask whether they will tell the

truth for

the price of a cheap pen and again ask if they will tell the truth for payments

of hundreds of thousands of dollars for the past twenty years.

Industry studies of thimerosal containing vaccines are one example of total

control of data usually by eliminating most of it and burying the findings of

harm by explaining

them in some mathematical reduction to seemingly harmless amounts or just

forgetting to include damning data. The sudden unexpected deaths after

thimerosal vaccines

such as the six hours to death for Harry and a million others just seem to

self select themselves out of all safety studies by vaccine companies and

government

regulators. FUNNY that. How do you prove harm by ignoring it?

Those that are not honest for the sake of a cheap pen seem to work as drug reps

and those that are not honest for hundreds of thousands of dollars do not exist

as

these payments are still legal, still going on and no law will stop this in the

near future. I am not sure of the amount of embarrassment you can stand for a

few hundred

thousand dollars but I suspect these people have no sense of embarrassment as

some are happy to get themselves undressed in front of their patients rather

than their

patients during consultations.

So we are left to believe these people are being completely honest even if they

have been found to go directly against their former and to the average man their

only

paymasters, the training colleges for future doctors. Propaganda tells us these

payments are legal. Whose definition of legal does not seem to include natural

justice

anyway. It would be interesting to see if the students went on to get the sums

their teachers got from Big Pharma as secret payments.

What your doctor doesn't tell his patient seems to be the secret handouts by the

drug companies whose medicine he is just about to prescribe to you. Here again

we may

have examples of people's health being harmed from such payments and the direct

follow on consequences.

When this amounts to TOXIC LEVELS of organomercury in your one day old baby or

now in the womb of your wife and hopefully to be born healthy child you can rest

assured that these payments do not affect their decision in any way. One million

sudden unexpected deaths and STILL rising.

How do we know this?

No doctor has been punished for giving TOXIC MERCURY vaccines EVER but many

mothers, fathers and carers are in prison today for the after effects of these

toxic

vaccines.

LONG SINCE removed say government.

LONG SINCE removed say doctors.

And of THEORETICAL HARM say government.

And of THEORETICAL HARM say doctors.

But who is getting payout from the vaccine makers?

Doctors and Government ONLY.

Certainly not the mothers, fathers and carers of children just vaccinated with

THEORETICAL HARMLESS though the worlds chemically most TOXIC element.

You can buy lots more than you think for TEN THOUSAND dollars.

And in a crazy world EVEN from a hundred dollars.

And even in December 2010 most of the information of secret payouts is EXACTLY

that: STILL secret.

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The " Big Pharma " bonus crap is a common fallacious argument that the alties use,

the appeal to conspiracy. When they use this argument it basically means they

have no

evidence to support their claims and it's question/answer FAIL from that point

onwards.

Here you have fooling all of the people for all of the time it seems? Extended

to denying that anyone gets payments and those that say it happens are the bad

people.

http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/

ProPublica (http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/), a Pulitzer Prize

winning, independent, non-profit newsroom focusing on public interest

journalism, has launched an

investigation into the pharmaceutical industry’s practice of paying doctors to

promote their drugs and has just released its findings.

In October 2010, we tallied up and individually researched the 384 doctors and

other health providers who received at least $100,000 from drug companies in

2009 and

early 2010, according to our research.

Here you get someone who knows we have all been fooled, can't do anything about

it but can make sure people KNOW if they want to KNOW.

One person from one organisation STANDING up however briefly to the DISHONEST

and SECRETIVE WORLD of those who can put more than 50 times the toxic amount

of a brain destroying chemical into every child and CLAIM we are saving more

lives than ever in the history of MEDICINE.

RIP: HARRY CLARK and a MILLION OTHERS.

Is all WELL in the WELL centres?