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> I need some answers, I started LDN Aug 25, 2005 and have been doing well I

thought, my bladder control had gotten better, numbness and tingling all but

disappeared, I have had some set backs occasionally, but, the last week I seemed

to have lost my bladder control and severe numbness yesterday and last night,

today I'm feeling somewhat better. I have been told a person on LDN sort of gets

better by reversal of MS symptoms and eventually becomes much better, is there

something to this? I have been using Serrapeptase for about three weeks, I don't

know what that could be doing, when I feel better I seem to feel much better,

almost normal, if I remember what that was again. Any advice will be

appreciated.

>

> THANX!

> Jim H.

>

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Relapses of old symptoms while on LDN is not uncommon, it will happen from time

to time. it's good you are feeling a bit better now. What you need to do every

6 months is check yourself for candida yeast overgrowth. Do the spit test, it

does work regardless of what some people say. Go to the link below...ignore the

google ads at top of my forum. Candida can lessen the effects of LDN.

Low Dose Naltrexone Forum - Check yourself for Candida(yeast overgrowth)...

http://www.ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=forum & action=display & thread=112913\

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There apparently is something to what you say, based on the reports of

others in this group. My wife has MS, relapsing remitting, and we have

not especially noticed this trend. She has been on LDN since July

2004. What I did see in the beginning was she felt so much better she

almost seemed to forget she had MS and pushed herself too hard. She's

still cycling between wanting to not accept she's had this disease for

10 years and running herself down and being run down, sleeping 12 hours

a day to recover.

Another consideration is the possiblity of infection. The two most

common infections gets are sinus (most often) or urinary

tract/bladder. A sinus infection is especially dangerous because, at

least in her case, it can remain hidden, symptomless, for quite some

time. Any infection is a set back for those with MS, especially if

there's even a low grade fever associated with it.

Are you unusually stressed lately? Even for those of us without a major

affliction, stress kills. Stress seems to be very hard on those with

MS, though I sometimes think that's a blessing in disguise. It's very

hard on all of us, but " healthy " people don't have the canary in a coal

mine that is MS to slow them down before stress makes a major hit on

their health.

Not advice, per se, just relating our personal experiences, which may

help you.

Jharbott wrote:

> I need some answers, I started LDN Aug 25, 2005 and have been doing

> well I thought, my bladder control had gotten better, numbness and

> tingling all but disappeared, I have had some set backs occasionally,

> but, the last week I seemed to have lost my bladder control and severe

> numbness yesterday and last night, today I'm feeling somewhat better.

> I have been told a person on LDN sort of gets better by reversal of MS

> symptoms and eventually becomes much better, is there something to

> this? I have been using Serrapeptase for about three weeks, I don't

> know what that could be doing, when I feel better I seem to feel much

> better, almost normal, if I remember what that was again. Any advice

> will be appreciated.

>

> THANX!

> Jim H.

>

>

>

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Hi Wesley,

Does your wife take antibiotics for her sinus condition? Typically women

get bladder infections when they are taking antibiotics, and/or changing

their body chemistry to a high alkaline level. The best thing and the

quickest for getting rid of the bladder infection is to drink cranberry

juice (the real stuff). I find that the juice seems to work better than the

pills.

My best

Aletha

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> There apparently is something to what you say, based on the reports of

> others in this group. My wife has MS, relapsing remitting, and we have

> not especially noticed this trend. She has been on LDN since July

> 2004. What I did see in the beginning was she felt so much better she

> almost seemed to forget she had MS and pushed herself too hard. She's

> still cycling between wanting to not accept she's had this disease for

> 10 years and running herself down and being run down, sleeping 12 hours

> a day to recover.

>

> Another consideration is the possiblity of infection. The two most

> common infections gets are sinus (most often) or urinary

> tract/bladder. A sinus infection is especially dangerous because, at

> least in her case, it can remain hidden, symptomless, for quite some

> time. Any infection is a set back for those with MS, especially if

> there's even a low grade fever associated with it.

>

> Are you unusually stressed lately? Even for those of us without a major

> affliction, stress kills. Stress seems to be very hard on those with

> MS, though I sometimes think that's a blessing in disguise. It's very

> hard on all of us, but " healthy " people don't have the canary in a coal

> mine that is MS to slow them down before stress makes a major hit on

> their health.

>

> Not advice, per se, just relating our personal experiences, which may

> help you.

>

>

> Jharbott wrote:

>

>> I need some answers, I started LDN Aug 25, 2005 and have been doing

>> well I thought, my bladder control had gotten better, numbness and

>> tingling all but disappeared, I have had some set backs occasionally,

>> but, the last week I seemed to have lost my bladder control and severe

>> numbness yesterday and last night, today I'm feeling somewhat better.

>> I have been told a person on LDN sort of gets better by reversal of MS

>> symptoms and eventually becomes much better, is there something to

>> this? I have been using Serrapeptase for about three weeks, I don't

>> know what that could be doing, when I feel better I seem to feel much

>> better, almost normal, if I remember what that was again. Any advice

>> will be appreciated.

>>

>> THANX!

>> Jim H.

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Hi Aletha;

No change to my prescription, I still use the same pharmacy, I've been on this bottle sense April 17th, now you have me thinking, I've been having the problem since I've been on this last bottle, are you thinking there could be a bad formulation?

I've never had allergies, rarely get a cold, the doctors always tell me I'm a very health person if it weren't for MS, I need to start walking without assistance, then I'm sure I would feel a lot better about myself.

Stress, I don't feel stressed, my son and I started a new business, but, that's going great and expanding rapidly.

Supplement; Omega-3 1000mg 1 a day, D-Phenylanine 500mg 1- 3x a day, Ginkgo Biloba 24% 1 a day, CoQ10 100mg 1 a day & Centrum (SILVER) 1 a day. Could you seen me your welcome package, I could use a good diet plan, I love ice cream, I seem to suffer when I eat it to many days in a row. I'm going to try that candida test.

Best Regards,

Jim

[low dose naltrexone] LDN

I need some answers, I started LDN Aug 25, 2005 and have been doing well I thought, my bladder control had gotten better, numbness and tingling all but disappeared, I have had some set backs occasionally, but, the last week I seemed to have lost my bladder control and severe numbness yesterday and last night, today I'm feeling somewhat better. I have been told a person on LDN sort of gets better by reversal of MS symptoms and eventually becomes much better, is there something to this? I have been using Serrapeptase for about three weeks, I don't know what that could be doing, when I feel better I seem to feel much better, almost normal, if I remember what that was again. Any advice will be appreciated.

THANX!

Jim H.

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> Hi Wesley,

>

> Does your wife take antibiotics for her sinus condition? Typically women

> get bladder infections when they are taking antibiotics, and/or changing

> their body chemistry to a high alkaline level. The best thing and the

> quickest for getting rid of the bladder infection is to drink cranberry

> juice (the real stuff). I find that the juice seems to work better than the

> pills.

>

> My best

> Aletha

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It may take longer for the cranberry pills to work but they are better than

drinking cranberry juice. If she has candida the sugar in the cranberry juice

will add more yeast growth. If she's been on antibiotic treatment for this

condition then there's no doubt she's eaten up with candida. It's a vicious and

never ending cycle if one has candida and does nothing to get rid of it. So

Wesley have your wife do the candida spit test. Go to MSN search engine and

type in Candida Spit Test.

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Jim,

I had a phone consult with Dr. Bihari today, and I have noticed some of my improvements aren't as good as they were as when I first started LDN either, and so I asked him this question, and he said a lot of people don't have improvements on LDN and the improvements lessening has nothing to do with the progression. In other words, I understood him to mean, what everybody else here has said, that the improvements are just a bonus and LDN is to halt progression.

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Hi ,

That makes a lot of since. It would seem that the sugar would contribute.

And you were correct in that my impression of the difference was taken from

how long it takes to make the bladder infection go away. So next time I

will try the pills again and be more patient.

Thanks

Aletha

***********************

" It may take longer for the cranberry pills to work but they are better than

drinking cranberry juice. If she has Candida the sugar in the cranberry

juice will add more yeast growth. If she's been on antibiotic treatment for

this condition then there's no doubt she's eaten up with Candida. It's a

vicious and never ending cycle if one has Candida and does nothing to get

rid of it. So Wesley have your wife do the Candida spit test. Go to MSN

search engine and type in Candida Spit Test.

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the best thing and quickest for a UTI is d-mannose. Works like a charm

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN

> Hi ,

>

> That makes a lot of since. It would seem that the sugar would contribute.

> And you were correct in that my impression of the difference was taken

> from

> how long it takes to make the bladder infection go away. So next time I

> will try the pills again and be more patient.

>

> Thanks

> Aletha

>

> ***********************

> " It may take longer for the cranberry pills to work but they are better

> than

> drinking cranberry juice. If she has Candida the sugar in the cranberry

> juice will add more yeast growth. If she's been on antibiotic treatment

> for

> this condition then there's no doubt she's eaten up with Candida. It's a

> vicious and never ending cycle if one has Candida and does nothing to get

> rid of it. So Wesley have your wife do the Candida spit test. Go to MSN

> search engine and type in Candida Spit Test.

>

> "

>

>

>

>

>

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Annette, that is very interesting. Has it been the experience of

those of you on LDN for more than one year, that you have not

progressed?

And I wonder why symptoms improve in the beginning and then return

later. Seems like everyone has mentioned improvement with bladder

issues, makes me wonder why.

I guess I have to remember to think of the symptoms and the

progression as two separate aspects of MS.

Joyce

>

> Jim,

> I had a phone consult with Dr. Bihari today, and I have noticed

some of my

> improvements aren't as good as they were as when I first started

LDN either,

> and so I asked him this question, and he said a lot of people don't

have

> improvements on LDN and the improvements lessening has nothing to

do with the

> progression. In other words, I understood him to mean, what

everybody else here

> has said, that the improvements are just a bonus and LDN is to halt

progression.

> Annette

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> I've been taking LDN for 5 weeks. I don't feel any difference. Am I

> being to impatient? The Dr said give it 3 months. I'm not sure what

> kind of improvement might occur. I've been reading about Dr Lawrence

> and supplements. I'm kind of new at this. Can someone send me more

> information about this to mossell@... I recently called a

> SSD lawyer and he told me because I have an office job and the

> heaviest thing I have to lift is a piece of paper I will not qualify

> for it but I am having more difficulty just getting to work and the

> walking so I HAVE to keep going. I am getting discouraged. Thanks

> for your help. I've been watching 's experience.

> Debbie

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First, LDN's main purpose is stopping disease progression, not improving

symptoms. If one does happen to get symptom improvement on LDN then that's an

added plus. Some people will see symptom improvement as far down the road as 9

months into starting LDN. If you have candida yeast overgrowth, that can lessen

the effects of LDN and if candida is severe it can eliminate all effects of LDN.

I will provide a link at the bottom of this message for you to click and read on

how to do the simple home spit test to check for candida.

Also make positive your pharmacy is using pure naltrexone powder and not

crushing the 50mg naltrexone tablets, the tablets already contain lots of filler

and an exact measurement of naltrexone is quite difficult to obtain. Pure

Naltrexone Powder has no filler, an exact measurement can be obtained and a

filler added. Make POSITIVELY SURE that your pharmacist is not using any

Calcium Carbonate as a capsule filler. Calcium Carbonate makes LDN release slow

and LDN must release fast. If you are lactose intolerant then ask for Dairy

Free(non-refrigerated) Acidophilus as your capsule filler.

Ignore the google ads at the top of my LDN forum.

Low Dose Naltrexone Forum - Check yourself for Candida(yeast overgrowth)...

http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=forum & action=display & thread=1129136093

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Hi Debbie,

I will send you a copy of the welcome e-mail. It has Dr. Lawrence's

supplements and protocols that can be very helpful.

Supplements and diet can be very helpful with LDN. They all work together

to help the immune system.

My best

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] LDN

I've been taking LDN for 5 weeks. I don't feel any difference. Am I

being to impatient? The Dr said give it 3 months. I'm not sure what

kind of improvement might occur. I've been reading about Dr Lawrence

and supplements. I'm kind of new at this. Can someone send me more

information about this to mossell@.... I recently called a

SSD lawyer and he told me because I have an office job and the

heaviest thing I have to lift is a piece of paper I will not qualify

for it but I am having more difficulty just getting to work and the

walking so I HAVE to keep going. I am getting discouraged. Thanks

for your help. I've been watching 's experience.

Debbie

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> Hi Debbie,

>

> I will send you a copy of the welcome e-mail. It has Dr. Lawrence's

> supplements and protocols that can be very helpful.

>

> Supplements and diet can be very helpful with LDN. They all work

together

> to help the immune system.

>

> My best

> Aletha

>

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Aletha,

Please would you send me a copy of the welcome e-mail and Dr

Lawrence's supplements list also?

Thanks

Phil

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Aletha;

I have noticed the last month I've awaken during the night and the morning, my mouth has such a salty taste, would that be medication or MS reaction? this morning my energy wasn't the best, but, by the time I got to therapy, I couldn't do anything, I've been having more numbness again, do you think the MS is causing other than normal problems?

My Best,

Jim

[low dose naltrexone] LDN

I need some answers, I started LDN Aug 25, 2005 and have been doing well I thought, my bladder control had gotten better, numbness and tingling all but disappeared, I have had some set backs occasionally, but, the last week I seemed to have lost my bladder control and severe numbness yesterday and last night, today I'm feeling somewhat better. I have been told a person on LDN sort of gets better by reversal of MS symptoms and eventually becomes much better, is there something to this? I have been using Serrapeptase for about three weeks, I don't know what that could be doing, when I feel better I seem to feel much better, almost normal, if I remember what that was again. Any advice will be appreciated.

THANX!

Jim H.

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Your in my prayers and I would not be doing anything one bit different than what you are! I think your on the right path and it will turn out just fine. Was the stroke related to the tumor you think? Did he have a TIA? Healing hugs, calgarygoldieblue <masenger@...> wrote: Hello everyone in the group. I have been on the site before but found that too many emails were coming through I couldn't keep up with them. This is my story - I have been on LDN since last Sept. 2005. I was pain free for some three months and then I didn't a stupid thing and tripped over my own two feet and fell hitting my forehead, left shoulder and left knee. Since that time (3 months ago) I have suffered much but still continued to

take ldn. Today I can honestly say that I am just about there feeling much better. My knee hurts a little but I know with time it will heal. Now the main reason for my message. My husband (Tony) had a mild stroke last Dec. 13/05 and since then we have been doctoring - medication etc. and have just gotten the results of an MRI taken March 2nd. Tony has a tumour on the brain - 2cm in size. We were given two options - surgery immediately or wait 6 months and then repeat the MRI and see what is happening with the tumor. We have opted for solution - wait two months and then take an MRI - while we wait we will be putting Tony on ldn, exercise program, a special whole foods diets and a whole lot of prayer from people all over the world. Already we have noticed some change in Tony's sleep pattern being that he has always been a poor sleeper. The last 3 nights have been good and we

attribute to LDN. All I ask that you keep him in your prayers and if you have any other suggestions to shrink the tumor so that surgery won't be necessary, I would dearly love to hear from you.Thanks for taking time to read this lengthy obit. and hope to hear from some.As ever, Margaret Iversen Branch Manager/Broker

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Life is fragile and out of our hands. Everyone has something going on in

their life. Mine is MS, but I have so many blessings. I pray that you both

find healing as you continue on in God's grace, Kathy

>From: " calgarygoldieblue " <masenger@...>

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>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] ldn

>Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 05:28:11 -0000

>

>Hello everyone in the group. I have been on the site before but

>found that too

>many emails were coming through I couldn't keep up with them. This is my

>story - I have

>been on LDN since last Sept. 2005. I was pain free for some three months

>and then I

>didn't a stupid thing and tripped over my own two feet and fell hitting my

>forehead, left

>shoulder and left knee. Since that time (3 months ago) I have suffered

>much but still

>continued to take ldn. Today I can honestly say that I am just about there

>feeling much

>better. My knee hurts a little but I know with time it will heal.

>Now the main reason for my message. My husband (Tony) had a mild stroke

>last Dec. 13/

>05 and since then we have been doctoring - medication etc. and have just

>gotten the

>results of an MRI taken March 2nd. Tony has a tumour on the brain - 2cm in

>size. We

>were given two options - surgery immediately or wait 6 months and then

>repeat the MRI

>and see what is happening with the tumor. We have opted for solution -

>wait two months

>and then take an MRI - while we wait we will be putting Tony on ldn,

>exercise program, a

>special whole foods diets and a whole lot of prayer from people all over

>the world.

>Already we have noticed some change in Tony's sleep pattern being that he

>has always

>been a poor sleeper. The last 3 nights have been good and we attribute to

>LDN. All I ask

>that you keep him in your prayers and if you have any other suggestions to

>shrink the

>tumor so that surgery won't be necessary, I would dearly love to hear from

>you.

>Thanks for taking time to read this lengthy obit. and hope to hear from

>some.

>As ever, Margaret

>

>

>

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-- [low dose naltrexone] ldn

Hello everyone in the group. I have been on the site before but found that too many emails were coming through I couldn't keep up with them. This is my story - I have been on LDN since last Sept. 2005. I was pain free for some three months and then I didn't a stupid thing and tripped over my own two feet and fell hitting my forehead, left shoulder and left knee. Since that time (3 months ago) I have suffered much but still continued to take ldn. Today I can honestly say that I am just about there feeling much better. My knee hurts a little but I know with time it will heal. Now the main reason for my message. My husband (Tony) had a mild stroke last Dec. 13/05 and since then we have been doctoring - medication etc. and have just gotten the results of an MRI taken March 2nd. Tony has a tumour on the brain - 2cm in size. We were given two options - surgery immediately or wait 6 months and then repeat the MRI and see what is happening with the tumor. We have opted for solution - wait two months and then take an MRI - while we wait we will be putting Tony on ldn, exercise program, a special whole foods diets and a whole lot of prayer from people all over the world. Already we have noticed some change in Tony's sleep pattern being that he has always been a poor sleeper. The last 3 nights have been good and we attribute to LDN. All I ask that you keep him in your prayers and if you have any other suggestions to shrink the tumor so that surgery won't be necessary, I would dearly love to hear from you.Thanks for taking time to read this lengthy obit. and hope to hear from some.As ever, Margaret

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YES!!!

nne, It is like that for me too. In the daytime i can hardly type at all because my right hand is partially paralysed and extremely weak and typing is horribe for me.i use mostly my left hand.But if i stay up late at night(I take my LDN usually at about 11 pm).about an hour later i can type much better and it always amazes me but in the morning i'm back to the same old drag again. I do see a diff right after I take the LDN.

I do take the DLP in the daytime because i hope it wil lkeep the LDN efect going but it doesnt do this at all- I mean htere is no improvement in my hand after taking the DLP in the daytime.

Isn't it weird?

Nola

[low dose naltrexone] LDN

I was wondering if anyone can help with this. I have been on LDN for a little over a week. I am secondary progressive and was diagnosed in 1999 (although i think I've had it for about 25 yrs). I decided not to take any of the CRAB drugs. I walk with a cane and I decided to try LDN last year. I didn't give it enough time so i'm on it again. The weird thing is i feel great after I take it (about 10:00 pm) I can lift my left leg which is very weak. I can wiggle the toes on my left foot which is also very weak. In the morning I'm back to the usual. Then at night I feel terrific again. Has anyone else experienced this? I wish we can take it in the morning. nne

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Like anything involving a doctor and the off - label use of a prescription

drug. Some are jerks about it and some are not. My doctor's view of the

situation was that there was nothing there that could hurt me and to go for

it. He has since prescribed this for a number of other people that I am

aware of.

The printout does explain what is going on with it and a reasonable person

should not have a problem dispensing it. The only thing here, and my

cynical side is now showing, is that it is very, very cheap and what doctor

likes a cheap fix? With my insurance co-pay, it costs me $7. per year.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org> http://survivecancerfoundation.org

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day

has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:50 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] LDN

Do you have any difficulty obtaining LDN?

Joe C.

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Literally thousands of people use it for cancer, although it was originally

used strictly for MS. The LDN group has a number of them on it. Dr

Bihari in NYC is the doctor who has done the work with it since the early

1980's. Dr Ian Zagon of the University of Pennsylvania has done lots of

research into cancer and using LDN. He is the one I talked with before I

started using it myself.

Its like a lot of things however, I would not want it to be the only thing I

was doing. I know that some use it exclusively, but most use it with a

combination of other things.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

http://survivecancerfoundation.org

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day

has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

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Behalf Of Ian Dixon

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:42 PM

Subject: [ ] LDN

Bruce

This sounds too good to be true????

And why is this the first time I have heard about it.

Do you know anyone where this has changed a stage IV terminal prognosis into

NED?

Regards

Ian

From: " Bruce Guilmette PhD "

Date: Mon May 22, 2006

Subject: Re: another interesting article

I have long been a proponent of LDN and use it myself for maintenance. I

have mentioned it here numerous times and is really well worth looking at

even though it is a prescription drug. There are virtually no known side

effects.

There is a group devoted to ldn as well that can be accessed through

the LDN.org website.

The cancers it is known to work on are:

Breast Cancer -Carcinoid -Colon & Rectal Cancer -Glioblastoma

Liver Cancer -Lung Cancer (Non-Small Cell) -Lymphocytic Leukemia

Lymphoma (Hodgkin's and Non-Hodgkin's) -Malignant Melanoma

Multiple Myeloma -Neuroblastoma -Ova rian Cancer -Pancreatic Cancer

rostate Cancer (untreated with hormone therapy) Renal Cell Carcinoma Throat

Cancer -Uterine Cancer

It is a remarkably cheap way to fight cancer and appears to have a track

record around or above 2/3 success even in late stages.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

http://survivecancerfoundation.org <http://survivecancerfoundation.org/>

LDN and Cancer

<http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/index.htm>

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Absolutely does. The key to pc is whether or not hormone therapy has been

done. If so, the chances are marginal it will have effect.

U Penn at Hershey did a lot of studies on cancer, but I can't tell you all

the stuff about them. I know in the LDN group, there are a number of

PC people there.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org> http://survivecancerfoundation.org

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day

has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of jpking@...

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:04 PM

Subject: Fwd: [ ] LDN

Bruce, do you know if LDN works on prostate cancer? Any clinical studies you

know of?

Thanks.

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lol, You used doctors and facts in the same sentence. Thats an oxymoron isnt it?

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Dave,why don't you start your own liquid LDN group? You seem to have a lot of the answers and, you wouldn't be confronted or confused by doctors or facts. Cat

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