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[Guest guest]

Well the only docs who seem to be interested in environmental illness

are the docs who get environmentally ill themselves and so get clued into it:

3 like that I've heard of:

Rea, thoracic surgeon turned EI doc after he was passing out in

the OR from the anesthesia, became MCS, became an EI doc

Dr. Bernhoft, general surgeon, became allergic and EI from the

disinfectant he slathered his arms in before surgery....then turned EI doc

Sherry , had a pesticide exposure, became an EI doc,

oh, and maybe Nagl...

BTW, in Sherry book Detox or Die she says the way they induce

parkinsons in rats to test parkinsons disease is to give them a big

pesticide exposure, and one way they can help some parkinsons patients

is thru sauna detox of the pesticides....

sue v

>

>

>Yes. It is. Polan is Polan's brother. Polan is

>married to J. Fox. Fox has Parkinson's. Evidence is that

>this is an

>environmental illness in some part. Environmental illnesses are caused by

>screwing with the environment.

>

>So tell me again, why can't we get the doctors to treat these illnesses?

>LOL

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes. I agree. No one wants to touch this with a ten foot pole if they

want to be known as cool and hanging with the in crowd of mainstream

medicine. By and large, only those who have lived the devastation comprehend

how

damaging this is to people's lives.

And then there is the minor detail of fear of retribution among one's

peers if they speak directly of the deceit in science and politics of the

matter. I can't even tell you how many times I have read and heard the false

character assassinating concept that Dr. Rea just does this because he is

self absorbed and only motivated to make money. And this is among some of

our own proponents!

Dr. Rea has been very brave to do what he does to help the sick. But

backstabbing in the medical community aids to demean and discredit his valor

and credibility of his work. I swear, from becoming involved in this issue,

I now view much of the medical community as a bunch of junior high " mean

girls " who can't stand the stand out students like Dr. Rea. Sadly, this

isn't junior high and lives are adversely impacted by the idle gossip that

permeates this issue over the medical science and those who practice and

promote it.

I got a rather disheartening message yesterday. Seems the new House is

targeting the EPA for cuts, which means progress made by the CIAQ over this

issue to follow the recommendations of the GAO will be further compromised

to actually accomplish change in policy over this issue anytime soon.

Seems to me that there are now a bunch of " mean girls " in the House, too!

In a message dated 11/12/2010 8:13:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

svican@... writes:

Well the only docs who seem to be interested in environmental illness

are the docs who get environmentally ill themselves and so get clued into

it:

3 like that I've heard of:

Rea, thoracic surgeon turned EI doc after he was passing out in

the OR from the anesthesia, became MCS, became an EI doc

Dr. Bernhoft, general surgeon, became allergic and EI from the

disinfectant he slathered his arms in before surgery....then turned EI doc

Sherry , had a pesticide exposure, became an EI doc,

oh, and maybe Nagl...

BTW, in Sherry book Detox or Die she says the way they induce

parkinsons in rats to test parkinsons disease is to give them a big

pesticide exposure, and one way they can help some parkinsons patients

is thru sauna detox of the pesticides....

sue v

[Guest guest]

Yes, these people deserve our respect and support, including Croft phd, who got

dumped on big time, without much support I might add from the mold 'community'.

>

> Yes. I agree. No one wants to touch this with a ten foot pole if they

> want to be known as cool and hanging with the in crowd of mainstream

> medicine. By and large, only those who have lived the devastation comprehend

how

> damaging this is to people's lives.

>

> And then there is the minor detail of fear of retribution among one's

> peers if they speak directly of the deceit in science and politics of the

> matter. I can't even tell you how many times I have read and heard the

false

> character assassinating concept that Dr. Rea just does this because he is

> self absorbed and only motivated to make money. And this is among some of

> our own proponents!

>

> Dr. Rea has been very brave to do what he does to help the sick. But

> backstabbing in the medical community aids to demean and discredit his valor

> and credibility of his work. I swear, from becoming involved in this issue,

> I now view much of the medical community as a bunch of junior high " mean

> girls " who can't stand the stand out students like Dr. Rea. Sadly, this

> isn't junior high and lives are adversely impacted by the idle gossip that

> permeates this issue over the medical science and those who practice and

> promote it.

>

> I got a rather disheartening message yesterday. Seems the new House is

> targeting the EPA for cuts, which means progress made by the CIAQ over this

> issue to follow the recommendations of the GAO will be further compromised

> to actually accomplish change in policy over this issue anytime soon.

> Seems to me that there are now a bunch of " mean girls " in the House, too!

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent Video! Just Say No To GMO

_http://www.responsibletechnology.org/_

(http://www.responsibletechnology.org/)

In a message dated 11/13/2010 7:30:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

productionking04@... writes:

Here is a link:

_http://www.responsibletechnology.org/_

(http://www.responsibletechnology.org/)

I took a training course with M to be able to lecture on

GMOs. The goal is to stop them in one year between 10-10-10- and 11-11-11.

You can download Don't put that in you mouth on audio ad copy it and pass

it out. There is also an AAEM statement on the dangers of GMOS.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

Here is a link:

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/

I took a training course with M to be able to lecture on GMOs.

The goal is to stop them in one year between 10-10-10- and 11-11-11.

You can download Don't put that in you mouth on audio ad copy it and pass it

out. There is also an AAEM statement on the dangers of GMOS.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

I know dr; Bernhoft is inthe AAEM. Do you are someone have experience with him?

Can you tell me anything, including cost as I am sure insurance will deny

anything that will help aas they have in the past.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

I live in NE Ohio and there is a wonderful Environmental Illness doctor, a

colleague of Dr. Rea and Dr . He has offices in Greenville, PA and

Portersville, PA. I put his Greenville contact info. below. Don't everybody

rush in, I want to be able to get my appointments, too

He is wise, sensitive and knowledgeable on a great many areas of environmental

health, not just the medicine. Check him out.

Roy Kerry, M.D.

Advanced Integrative Medicine Center, Inc.

17 6th Avenue

Greenville, PA 16125-1237

(724) 588-2600

On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:24 PM, sue wrote:

> Well the only docs who seem to be interested in environmental illness

> are the docs who get environmentally ill themselves and so get clued into it:

>

> 3 like that I've heard of:

>

> Rea, thoracic surgeon turned EI doc after he was passing out in

> the OR from the anesthesia, became MCS, became an EI doc

>

> Dr. Bernhoft, general surgeon, became allergic and EI from the

> disinfectant he slathered his arms in before surgery....then turned EI doc

>

> Sherry , had a pesticide exposure, became an EI doc,

>

> oh, and maybe Nagl...

>

> BTW, in Sherry book Detox or Die she says the way they induce

> parkinsons in rats to test parkinsons disease is to give them a big

> pesticide exposure, and one way they can help some parkinsons patients

> is thru sauna detox of the pesticides....

>

> sue v

[Guest guest]

Dr Shoemaker was also made sick from mold, and I come from Dr She country, where

the dr's and nurses giggle like the mean girls they are and say " show me the

biotoxin " and call him a quack

> >

> > Yes. I agree. No one wants to touch this with a ten foot pole if they

> > want to be known as cool and hanging with the in crowd of mainstream

> > medicine. By and large, only those who have lived the devastation

comprehend how

> > damaging this is to people's lives.

> >

> > And then there is the minor detail of fear of retribution among one's

> > peers if they speak directly of the deceit in science and politics of the

> > matter. I can't even tell you how many times I have read and heard the

false

> > character assassinating concept that Dr. Rea just does this because he is

> > self absorbed and only motivated to make money. And this is among some of

> > our own proponents!

> >

> > Dr. Rea has been very brave to do what he does to help the sick. But

> > backstabbing in the medical community aids to demean and discredit his

valor

> > and credibility of his work. I swear, from becoming involved in this

issue,

> > I now view much of the medical community as a bunch of junior high " mean

> > girls " who can't stand the stand out students like Dr. Rea. Sadly, this

> > isn't junior high and lives are adversely impacted by the idle gossip that

> > permeates this issue over the medical science and those who practice and

> > promote it.

> >

> > I got a rather disheartening message yesterday. Seems the new House is

> > targeting the EPA for cuts, which means progress made by the CIAQ over this

> > issue to follow the recommendations of the GAO will be further compromised

> > to actually accomplish change in policy over this issue anytime soon.

> > Seems to me that there are now a bunch of " mean girls " in the House, too!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Right. The main floor is the ole estate of Levi Strauss. Haven't been

there in awhile. The way I remember it, is that the offices, etc, are mainly

where the old house is. But the rest is added on. I THINK it was going to

be a luxury hotel and that was the reason for the addition.

I remember it had a gorgeous lecture auditorium and grounds. It was very

peaceful and it seemed the number of employees far out did the number of

guests they can accommodate.

For just a Spa, spa, I like this place, too. Two Bunch Palms in the

desert. They have natural mineral water with lithium in it. Its been around

since the 20s.

_The Resort and Spa in Desert Hot Springs California_

(http://www.twobunchpalms.com/the-resort.htm)

In a message dated 11/14/2010 3:44:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

dianebolton@... writes:

" Believe the doctor that runs it, designed it " . Sanoviv is actually the

former home of Levi Strauss, not built for a hospital at all. I have spoken

with them and even have a doctor consult. When they told me they used

hyperbaric chambers, I decided to not go as I have tried that with no results.

They are extremely expensive, housing was over $100 a day when I spoke to

them in 2005. D

>

> Yes, I have heard about Sanoviv, believe the doctor who runs it designed

> it so that it is EMF shielded also to help patients lower their total

> body burdens for better healing.

[Guest guest]

" Believe the doctor that runs it, designed it " . Sanoviv is actually the former

home of Levi Strauss, not built for a hospital at all. I have spoken with them

and even have a doctor consult. When they told me they used hyperbaric chambers,

I decided to not go as I have tried that with no results. They are extremely

expensive, housing was over $100 a day when I spoke to them in 2005. D

>

> Yes, I have heard about Sanoviv, believe the doctor who runs it designed

> it so that it is EMF shielded also to help patients lower their total

> body burdens for better healing.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I feel wonderful after hyerbaric treatment but it wears off. HOWEVER, if I am

having trouble with *frequent migraines, I will go there and it will blast

migraine away within few minutes of being in it and it WONT come back for

months, and then *thats* a new headache, not the old one returning. I would

imagine it can do many things like help heal skin problems, I know burns. and

that is lasting effect. It probably depends on what is ailing you but it isn't

just a 'feel good' thing for many issues.

>

> I'm not sold on hyberbaric, I saw a number of patients doing it in

> dallas at a different clinic from dr rea's, that treatment is expensive

> and didn't seem to help a lot of them, talked to one woman it helped but

> not sure the help stays when you stop the treatments... sue v

>