Guest guest Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Right or wrong i always take serrapeptase and either lumbrokinase or nattokinase. All break up fibrinogen and supposedly biofilms. I have read that serrapeptase is partcularly effective in the lungs. I had thickening in the septal walls of my lungs one cat scan 3 years ago that went away (hoepefully not a bad cat) last cat scan this past year. not sure if serrapeptase but its used to treat fibrosis. Robin > > Bacterial interactions in biofilms > > http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/104084109028094 > 31 > > August 2009, Vol. 35, No. 3 , Pages 157-168 > Pieter Moons, W. Michiels, Abram Aertsen Laboratory of > Food Microbiology, Centre for Food and Microbial Technology, > Department of Microbial and Molecular Systems (M2S), Faculty > of Bioscience Engineering, Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, > Leuven, Belgium > > It is generally acknowledged that biofilms are the dominant > lifestyle of bacteria, both in the natural environment as on > manmade settings such as industrial and medical devices. This > attached form of cell growth consists of slime matrix embedded > bacteria of either a single, but mostly of multiple microbial > species that form an interdependent structured community, > capable of coordinated and collective behavior. Although > research on multispecies biofilms is still in its infancy, this review > will focus on these complex communities where cooperation and > antagonism are keys to increase the fitness of the different > species and where intercellular interactions and communication > are means to achieve this goal. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > ----- > molds and biofilms > > http://www.knowthecause.com/Newsletter/NewsletterArticles/tabid/57 > /articleType/ArticleView/articleId/429/Mold-and-Biofilms.aspx > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Those are systemic enzymes not digestive enzymes ?    God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: listspub <listspub@...> Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 3:14:44 PM Subject: [] Re: Bacteria and biofilms  Right or wrong i always take serrapeptase and either lumbrokinase or nattokinase. All break up fibrinogen and supposedly biofilms. I have read that serrapeptase is partcularly effective in the lungs. I had thickening in the septal walls of my lungs one cat scan 3 years ago that went away (hoepefully not a bad cat) last cat scan this past year. not sure if serrapeptase but its used to treat fibrosis. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Reposting Carl's link that was broken, " know the cause " . Good one. Sign behind Doug Kaufman invites you to sign up for his monthly newsletter which I would love to get but cannot find the link to do that and I have looked for it before. > > molds and biofilms > > http://www.knowthecause.com/Newsletter/NewsletterArticles/tabid/57/articleType/A\ rticleView/articleId/429/Mold-and-Biofilms.aspx > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 yes systemic. but digestive enzymes can be systemic if taken on empty stomach, right? These are fibrinogen and biofilm busters. I think the lumbrokinase turned my blood from purple to a deep red. I had a blood draw when taking it and was surprised not to see the dirty looking blood. I also noticed from having lots of blood draws that it seems my blood looks darker, dirtier when I am having cytokine flares or herxing.. which I think is the same thing. Robin > > Those are systemic enzymes not digestive enzymes ?   >  > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > > > > > ________________________________ > From: listspub <listspub@...> > > Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 3:14:44 PM > Subject: [] Re: Bacteria and biofilms > >  > Right or wrong i always take serrapeptase and either lumbrokinase or > nattokinase. All break up fibrinogen and supposedly biofilms. I have read that > serrapeptase is partcularly effective in the lungs. I had thickening in the > septal walls of my lungs one cat scan 3 years ago that went away (hoepefully not > a bad cat) last cat scan this past year. not sure if serrapeptase but its used > to treat fibrosis. > > Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I have watched him on TV for years until his show was taken off our local station. Kathi >>>> Reposting Carl's link that was broken, " know the cause " . Good one. > > Sign behind Doug Kaufman invites you to sign up for his monthly newsletter which I would love to get but cannot find the link to do that and I have looked for it before. > > > > > > molds and biofilms > > > > http://www.knowthecause.com/Newsletter/NewsletterArticles/tabid/57/articleType/A\ rticleView/articleId/429/Mold-and-Biofilms.aspx > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Systemic and digestive are different.   Different combos of enzymes.  God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: listspub <listspub@...> Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 3:00:29 AM Subject: [] Re: Bacteria and biofilms yes systemic. but digestive enzymes can be systemic if taken on empty stomach, right? These are fibrinogen and biofilm busters. I think the lumbrokinase turned my blood from purple to a deep red. I had a blood draw when taking it and was surprised not to see the dirty looking blood. I also noticed from having lots of blood draws that it seems my blood looks darker, dirtier when I am having cytokine flares or herxing.. which I think is the same thing. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I have LYme and fungal infections and what I have learned from my doctors is that you must rotate your biofilm destroyers as well as many other things. My doctor also said that many with fungal infections respond really well to ozone and Glutathione. I went from Glutathione ivs to injections and it seems to be working. All these pathogens often make an army that is hard to dissolve. I am eternally grateful for Dr , my last Lyme doctor Dr Marra, and many other physicians how understand because they too have had to deal with these pathogens and others. cathy > > Systemic and digestive are different.   Different combos of enzymes.  > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > > ________________________________ > From: listspub <listspub@...> > > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 3:00:29 AM > Subject: [] Re: Bacteria and biofilms > > yes systemic. but digestive enzymes can be systemic if taken on empty stomach, > right? These are fibrinogen and biofilm busters. I think the lumbrokinase turned > my blood from purple to a deep red. I had a blood draw when taking it and was > surprised not to see the dirty looking blood. I also noticed from having lots of > blood draws that it seems my blood looks darker, dirtier when I am having > cytokine flares or herxing.. which I think is the same thing. > > Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 http://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=723 may just be the protease, if the digestive enzyme has it in it.. i would not use digestive enzymes to break up biofilm but i think the protease can.. could be wrong.. and i think there are benefits to taking on empty stomach Robin > > Systemic and digestive are different.   Different combos of enzymes.  > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > > ________________________________ > From: listspub <listspub@...> > > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 3:00:29 AM > Subject: [] Re: Bacteria and biofilms > > yes systemic. but digestive enzymes can be systemic if taken on empty stomach, > right? These are fibrinogen and biofilm busters. I think the lumbrokinase turned > my blood from purple to a deep red. I had a blood draw when taking it and was > surprised not to see the dirty looking blood. I also noticed from having lots of > blood draws that it seems my blood looks darker, dirtier when I am having > cytokine flares or herxing.. which I think is the same thing. > > Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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