Re: Inhalers

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In a message dated 2/19/01 12:41:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

smilinggail@... writes:

<<

I have just put in another week from hell. UGH!!!!!!!!! Seth is an

absolute

mess. Pink eye, ear infections and now the croup. Took him to the ER the

other night because he just couldn't breath. They gave him a steroid shot

and had me walk him outside for 30 minutes. Freezing our butts off cold out

there at 3 AM!!!! It didn't do a thing so they gave him a nebulizer

treatment, which after 3 hours worked. I ended up in the Er this morning

because I couldn't breath. Thought I got pneumonia from being outside with

Seth LOL. They gave me a nebulizer treatment and gave me a puffer to bring

home. What's going on with the breathing? Anyone else going through this?

Wish it would get cold and stay cold long enough to kill all these rotten

germs. The drops they gave me for Seth's eyes aren't working at all. Poor

kid looks awful! Man, this has been one rotten month. Hope everyone else

is

spared from these breathing problems.

Gail >>

Gosh Gail. We're not dealing with the breathing stuff (although Maddie does

have a nebulizer), just flu and strep. An all around BAD winter for us.

But MAN, I can't complain since we've made NO trips to the ER like you have.

Poor Seth and Poor You!!!! Sounds like Spring is NECESSARY!!!!!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Donna

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In a message dated 2/19/01 7:37:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< Gosh Gail. We're not dealing with the breathing stuff (although Maddie

does

have a nebulizer), just flu and strep. An all around BAD winter for us.

But MAN, I can't complain since we've made NO trips to the ER like you have.

Poor Seth and Poor You!!!! Sounds like Spring is NECESSARY!!!!!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Donna >>

Thanks Donna,

Why does Maddie use a nebulizer and is she good about it? Ahhh strep!

That's the next one we shall endure. LOL Half the gymnastics class was out

with it tonight, so I'm sure we will be next. How are your kids doing?

Everyone getting better?

Gail

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In a message dated 2/20/01 2:18:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

smilinggail@... writes:

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Thanks Donna,

Why does Maddie use a nebulizer and is she good about it? Ahhh strep!

That's the next one we shall endure. LOL Half the gymnastics class was out

with it tonight, so I'm sure we will be next. How are your kids doing?

Everyone getting better?

Gail >>

Hi Gail,

They're all still on their anti-biotics and feeling better. n went

skiing twice this weekend, so he's obviously back to normal...LOL But now

my throat is scratchy today....EEK!!!!

Maddie is on a nebulizer because the doc said she had asthma. I don't think

she does though. We had a couple really bad winters with her raspy

breathing (she sounded like a perculating coffee pot from November to April),

but it has gotten better each year. This year I only used the nebulizer

once. She's not good about it Gail, and I have to use the blow by

method....Will NOT wear the thing. I strap her in her little seat, put on a

Barney flick, and blow by. She does like the steam, so she sits the whole

time.

Donna

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Gail,

Sorry you're having such a hard week! I hope you and Seth are already

feeling better. Brook used to have problems breathing too, but fortunately

he hasn't had an attack for a long time now. He still gets sinus infections

and ear infections all the time, but I get him into the doctor right away and

we always start him on antibiotics immediately. This really helps with

Brook. Every cold he gets, gets the full 3 week treatment of antibiotics,

usually we use augmentin. I just started him on Flonase a few weeks ago and

am going to see if this helps lessen the sinus infections. Brook has eartubes

and the ped ENT said to use antibiotic ear drops daily which has also really

helped lessen the occurence of ear drainage.

I hope everyone starts feeling better soon, spring is coming.

Marisa

Mom to Miles 14 yrs, Brook 11, and Gennie 3

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my asthma has been really bothering me lately too. shawna.

inhalers

> I have just put in another week from hell. UGH!!!!!!!!! Seth is an

absolute

> mess. Pink eye, ear infections and now the croup. Took him to the ER the

> other night because he just couldn't breath. They gave him a steroid shot

> and had me walk him outside for 30 minutes. Freezing our butts off cold

out

> there at 3 AM!!!! It didn't do a thing so they gave him a nebulizer

> treatment, which after 3 hours worked. I ended up in the Er this morning

> because I couldn't breath. Thought I got pneumonia from being outside with

> Seth LOL. They gave me a nebulizer treatment and gave me a puffer to

bring

> home. What's going on with the breathing? Anyone else going through

this?

> Wish it would get cold and stay cold long enough to kill all these rotten

> germs. The drops they gave me for Seth's eyes aren't working at all.

Poor

> kid looks awful! Man, this has been one rotten month. Hope everyone else

is

> spared from these breathing problems.

> Gail

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 2/20/01 9:42:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< Hi Gail,

They're all still on their anti-biotics and feeling better. n

went

skiing twice this weekend, so he's obviously back to normal...LOL But now

my throat is scratchy today....EEK!!! >>

Donna,

Glad to hear your kids are doing better, but sure hope you're not getting it.

Take care and get some rest.

Gail

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In a message dated 2/20/01 4:50:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, poggim@...

writes:

<< Gail,

Sorry you're having such a hard week! I hope you and Seth are already

feeling better. >>

Thanks Marissa,

Hope Brook is getting through the winter okay too.

Gail

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What I tend to do with my son is spray first twice out of sight and then put over his mouth - the flap will only let the vapour out when you breath it in.

Inhalersautism Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 11:51 PM

My ds age six was just diagnosed with asthma on top of eczema, allergies and autism. He cannot tolerate the mask or the spacers used with the nebulizer (he says that he is afraid of them), however I cannot seems to be able to teach him to use his inhaler properly. He just cannot get the hang of it down. Short of holding him down against his will and traumatizing him with the breathing treatments does anyone have any good ideas or experience on getting one of our kids to use an inhaler??Thanks and God Bless,

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: Caleb was diagnosed with asthma at the age of 6 months. We have been doing the neubulizer since he was 2 months old. Caleb fought me tooth and nail but it was a life threatening situation. I didn't give him a choice. I had to have alot of help to get him to use the neubulizer but I don't regret it. We have inhalers but they don't work like the neubulizer. Caleb doesn't have to use the machine as often but I always keep medicine on hand. The ER visits were a lot worse than family holding him down to do the treatments. Remember too (as hard as it is) the more they scream the more medicine is entering their bodies. I hope I'm not sounding cruel because I'm not trying to but I have been there. Many of nights I watched my son's chest sink into his body as he struggled to breathe. I did what I felt I had to do of course this was before I found out he had autism. They also make mask that look like fish or dinosaurs to help with the little ones. Caleb still uses the special mask. The mask lasts for six months and is covered under insurance. Caleb has an inhaler and he still can't figure it out. We tried the air chamber and I didn't feel like he was getting the medicine. We are now on a new inhaler that I think works 100% better for Caleb. It is called Moxair. Caleb now sits by himself and doesn't fight me for the breathing treatment. He finally realizes that he needs that medicine to make him feel better. Caleb will even go get the machine and ask me to give him a treatment when he is feeling bad. That is a huge accomplishment but it took 7 years to get there. Be patient but persistent. Asthma is a LIFE THREATENING condition. You can e-mail me off line if you would like. I have tried it all. Caleb wasn't diagnosed with autism until he was 5 years old. We kept blaming all the symptoms on his asthma. Caleb had RSV as 2 months old and again at 2.5 years old. He also suffered with pneumonia and was put in the hospital on many occasions. His oxygen level was so bad they had to put him on 3 liters of oxygen in order for him to breathe. It would take 5 to 6 days of being in the hospital to ween him off the oxygen. The breathing machine is sooo very important. I'm not trying to scare you I just want you to realize how important the machine can be. Caleb is now on allergy shots. He takes two shots a week. Caleb is severly allergic to dust, dust mites, cats, and red ants. We stopped taking the allergy shots 2 years into them because we found out Caleb had autism. Only to end up back on them again and having to start from scratch. The allergy shots are a four year commitment. Eventually Caleb will be weened from taking them twice a week to once a week to once every other week to once a month and so on until he is completely off the shots. I will be praying for your family. I know how scary asthma can be especially when your child can't tell you they are having a hard time breathing. Sorry for writing a book but this topic is so close to my heart. Asthma ruled Caleb's life for his first 5 years of life. It does get better and you learn how to pick up on the early signs just like with autism. Autism does get better and you learn how to pick up on the signs of a meltdown coming on. Thanks for reading my book. Gwen autism From: kenmeljones@...Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:35:35 +0000Subject: Re: Inhalers  What I tend to do with my son is spray first twice out of sight and then put over his mouth - the flap will only let the vapour out when you breath it in. Inhalersautism Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 11:51 PM My ds age six was just diagnosed with asthma on top of eczema, allergies and autism. He cannot tolerate the mask or the spacers used with the nebulizer (he says that he is afraid of them), however I cannot seems to be able to teach him to use his inhaler properly. He just cannot get the hang of it down. Short of holding him down against his will and traumatizing him with the breathing treatments does anyone have any good ideas or experience on getting one of our kids to use an inhaler??Thanks and God Bless,

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Hi, my son has had asthma for 4 of his 9 years. Initially it was bad experience

with neb treatments until he was on singular cause he flared up a lot. Like gwen

mentioned they do make fish mask which helps. Generally I used the fish masked

and rocked with wrapped up in his fave blanket while we watch the wiggles or

handy mandy. Now my son uses a " peace pipe " one while (again distracting with tv

lol) he actually helps set

it up now. Maybe you can get your kiddo to

help and maybe feel somewhat in control. Hope it helps a little.

christine

My ds age six was just diagnosed with asthma on top of eczema, allergies and

autism. He cannot tolerate the mask or the spacers used with the nebulizer (he

says that he is afraid of them), however I cannot seems to be able to teach him

to use his inhaler properly. He just cannot get the hang of it down. Short of

holding him down against his will and traumatizing him with the breathing

treatments

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Dear ,

 

Great question! 

 

Usually on the package it will say how many ' metered actuations or

inhalations'  are in one inhaler.

 

For example each time the inhaler is activated (actuation) it gives the same

amount of spray or mit that contains the same amount of drug.

 

Albuterol Inhalaiton Aerosol by Goldline has 17 grams in the canister

(inhalation device).

It has 200 metered inhalations.

Some times a physician will use the word 'puff' for inalation.

 

So if the Rx were: ii puffs po q6hr

 

That would mean Inhale 2 puffs orally every 6 hours

Which is 2 puffs/dose  x 4 doses/day  = 8 puffs/day  

200 metered doses (or puffs) in the canister divided by 8 puffs/day = 25 days

200 mpuffs/8 mpuffs/day = 25 days

 

If the sig was prn then some doses may not necessarily be taken the canister may

last a bit longer. Therefore it is possible that 30 days would be entered into

the computer for prn administration.

 

 

Hope this helps.

Anyone care to explain their way feel free!

 

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner

 

 

 

From: Chaplain <chappy12172000@...>

Subject: Inhalers

Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 7:25 AM

How do I figure days supply for inhalers for adults and children what is the

formula?

Thanks

Steph C.

     

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Mayleen, you did say that everyone died in research you read and since Pat and

Ginger take steriods, that would strongly imply to them that you are saying they

will die...if their illness was due to WDB so I think Ginger is reading it okay

but you were not talking to her, that's true, but she can draw conclusion from

what you said.

Anyway, I think what is missing here is an acknowledgement that Pat at

least..don't know about Ginger...are talking about an entirely different

application of steriods, a " replacement " treatment that is life saving.

Cortisol, like many hormones, are essential for normal functioning of the body.

If you don't have any or level is too low, you cannot be healthy.

Cortisol is centrally important to the immune system so that if she didn't

supplement w the cortisol her immune system would not function right or function

at such a low level that she would be endanger of any type of infection wiping

her out. Just like people who have very low thyroid really need the thyroid

supplemented. What you are talking about is the usual treatment w steriods

which is to " pump up " a person's immune system, to give the person a 'high'

cortisol level to get a high immune response. It's this latter one, giving

someone a high level of cortisol that Dr Shoemaker I'm sure is talking about.

Why not send him a note and ask him, instead of going back and forth here,

everyone over the same territory. I'm sure this is true but would be

interesting to hear what Dr Shoemaker or Dr Thrasher says on this.

The difference here is someone w a normal cortisol level being given cortisol

type medicine to pump their immune response up, VERSUS someone w a low or

deficient cortisol level being given enough cortisol to bring their immune

system up to normal functioning. There is a huge difference between these two

that I think you are not acknowledging or don't see.

> I don't know how told you that but please read the post properly before

> responding to them. If needed read multiple times.

>