Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 , welcome aboard. if you want flax for your chickens, you can grow flax right in the ground. When I raised chickens, I divided the chicken runs in to four parts. As your chickens are feeding in one, the other three can be growing a new crop. Stagger your planting so that they don't all mature at once. Also, you need to rotate crops. That means, plant something else every now and then. I suggest something that the birds will like. You can grow in trays, but don't use dirt. BTW, dirt is what gets under you finger nails, soil is what you grow in. In your trays, you want a soil less mix. You can buy potting mix or make you own. A recipe for you own is 1/3 compost, 1/3 peat and 1/3 vermiculite or perlite. This mix is lighter than your soil and eaiser to move than trays. You can grow in your barn if the flax gets plenty of light. The temperature shouldn't matter, if you keep it moist and have a little air movement. As far as sprouting for yourself. Try jars before you invest in a machine. Check .com for info on how to sprout most anything ew new member needs guidance Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:44:27 -0000 Hi to y'all, I am new to the list and sprouting. I live in SE Louisiana. One question I have is: can I sprout flax seed in trays with dirt in my 90+ degree barn? It is for my free range chickens and I really don't want to carry trays from my house to the barn. Or maybe I just don't sprout in the summer? Or maybe this is a goofy idea? <G> What started the idea is " eggs " where the chickens are fed a special diet to increase the DHA in the eggs. Of course, the diet is proprietary, but, I did get a hint that its base is flax. I am also sprouting for the family (4 adults, 1 toddler). I am thinking sproutmaster because it is expandable? All opinions welcome. At this point, my plan is to start with mixed sprouts and soaks, then expand to micro greens and greens in trays? As I write this I am thinking maybe trays for everything? I haven't purchase a thing, just developing " the plan " <gg>. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 EW I'm grabbing this info too, I have chickens and ducks.. Thanks.. Aran Check Out The Raw Divas! www.greensmoothiequeen.com www.rawmom.com -- Re: new member needs guidance , welcome aboard. if you want flax for your chickens, you can grow flax right in the ground. When I raised chickens, I divided the chicken runs in to four parts. As your chickens are feeding in one, the other three can be growing a new crop. Stagger your planting so that they don't all mature at once. Also, you need to rotate crops. That means, plant something else every now and then. I suggest something that the birds will like. You can grow in trays, but don't use dirt. BTW, dirt is what gets under you finger nails, soil is what you grow in. In your trays, you want a soil less mix. You can buy potting mix or make you own. A recipe for you own is 1/3 compost, 1/3 peat and 1/3 vermiculite or perlite. This mix is lighter than your soil and eaiser to move than trays. You can grow in your barn if the flax gets plenty of light. The temperature shouldn't matter, if you keep it moist and have a little air movement. As far as sprouting for yourself. Try jars before you invest in a machine. Check .com for info on how to sprout most anything ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Aran, anytime I can be of service. All my posts are out there for all to take what they need. Comes with Master Gardener training. ew Re: new member needs guidance , welcome aboard. if you want flax for your chickens, you can grow flax right in the ground. When I raised chickens, I divided the chicken runs in to four parts. As your chickens are feeding in one, the other three can be growing a new crop. Stagger your planting so that they don't all mature at once. Also, you need to rotate crops. That means, plant something else every now and then. I suggest something that the birds will like. You can grow in trays, but don't use dirt. BTW, dirt is what gets under you finger nails, soil is what you grow in. In your trays, you want a soil less mix. You can buy potting mix or make you own. A recipe for you own is 1/3 compost, 1/3 peat and 1/3 vermiculite or perlite. This mix is lighter than your soil and eaiser to move than trays. You can grow in your barn if the flax gets plenty of light. The temperature shouldn't matter, if you keep it moist and have a little air movement. As far as sprouting for yourself. Try jars before you invest in a machine. Check .com for info on how to sprout most anything ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Hey , There was a thread on this list about a week and a half ago entitled, Sprouts for Livestock, if you didn't see that thread it leads to this Australian company, http://tinyurl.com/nrzhou called Fodder Solutions. Since they have information about using sprouts for horses, cattle, sheep and goats and nothing about poultry I wrote them and asked if they had any poultry specific information to share. That was only a few days ago and I haven't heard back yet, if that leads me to anything I will definitely share it with the list. Also if your chickens are free range they automatically will have omega 3 oil in them. Just like grass fed cattle has some omega 3 while grain fed cattle does not. I went to the Egg web site and didn't find any specific information. The science information page is nonexistent. I found it interesting that they call their eggs " all natural eggs " , because in my opinion any egg that comes out of a giant factory farm is far from natural, no matter what you feed your hens. http://www.roseacre.com/ cagesafe.html That webpage is from the same company. A bunch of propaganda, they love their chickens they keep them safe from harm in cages. Lee PS. I've had problems with my hyperlinks in my mail program, so you might need to copy and paste if you want to see them. On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, mdschrantz wrote: > Hi to y'all, > > I am new to the list and sprouting. I live in SE Louisiana. > > One question I have is: can I sprout flax seed in trays with dirt > in my 90+ degree barn? It is for my free range chickens and I > really don't want to carry trays from my house to the barn. Or > maybe I just don't sprout in the summer? Or maybe this is a goofy > idea? <G> What started the idea is " eggs " where the > chickens are fed a special diet to increase the DHA in the eggs. Of > course, the diet is proprietary, but, I did get a hint that its > base is flax. > > I am also sprouting for the family (4 adults, 1 toddler). I am > thinking sproutmaster because it is expandable? All opinions > welcome. At this point, my plan is to start with mixed sprouts and > soaks, then expand to micro greens and greens in trays? As I write > this I am thinking maybe trays for everything? I haven't purchase a > thing, just developing " the plan " <gg>. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Leron Bouma <leronb@...> wrote: > > > A bunch of propaganda, they > love their chickens they keep them safe from harm in cages. > Lee > Compared to their alternative, those of their chickens that are " free-roaming " & are kept in a " pen " inside of a barn, I suppose the one's in a cage are safer!! I've seen video of penned chickens. Horrible. :~( Thia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 PS. to be clear- I don't think either way is a good one. They should see real daylight, and walk on grass, and have plenty of space to roam, so they are less likely to peck on each other. Thia On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Thia (aka: pixx) <pixxley@...> wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Leron Bouma <leronb@...> wrote: > >> >> >> A bunch of propaganda, they >> love their chickens they keep them safe from harm in cages. >> Lee >> > > > > > > > Compared to their alternative, those of their chickens that are > " free-roaming " & are kept in a " pen " inside of a barn, I suppose the one's > in a cage are safer!! I've seen video of penned chickens. Horrible. > > :~( > Thia > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Ok, one more post, and then I'm leaving this alone. I am slamming on huge factory farms, not small family farms. I do realize that barnes keep them safe from predators, and there are generally way less chickens penned all together in small family farm settings. Thia-> getting off soapbox, and shutting up now. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Thia (aka: pixx) <pixxley@...> wrote: > PS. to be clear- I don't think either way is a good one. They should see > real daylight, and walk on grass, and have plenty of space to roam, so they > are less likely to peck on each other. > > Thia > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Thia (aka: pixx) <pixxley@...>wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Leron Bouma <leronb@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> A bunch of propaganda, they >>> love their chickens they keep them safe from harm in cages. >>> Lee >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Compared to their alternative, those of their chickens that are >> " free-roaming " & are kept in a " pen " inside of a barn, I suppose the one's >> in a cage are safer!! I've seen video of penned chickens. Horrible. >> >> :~( >> Thia >> >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Hello - I've never used a sproutmaster, so I can't give you an opinion, there. But, I'd suggest giving it a go in jars, to see what you think of it all. I first started sprouting close to (and perhaps over) 25 years ago, in jars. I've tried a couple of the fancy setups, and I still prefer my jars. You will need trays for the micro greens and greens; although I have heard of some folks doing sunflower greens in jars, so... for what that's worth. As for the flax, I'd suggest giving it a go. I would think it would work, but if it doesn't, you haven't lost much- and the rest can be used when the weather gets cooler. And, no, I don't think it's a goofy idea at all. :~) Thia On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:44 PM, mdschrantz <mdschrantz@...> wrote: > > > Hi to y'all, > > I am new to the list and sprouting. I live in SE Louisiana. > > One question I have is: can I sprout flax seed in trays with dirt in my 90+ > degree barn? It is for my free range chickens and I really don't want to > carry trays from my house to the barn. Or maybe I just don't sprout in the > summer? Or maybe this is a goofy idea? <G> What started the idea is > " eggs " where the chickens are fed a special diet to increase the > DHA in the eggs. Of course, the diet is proprietary, but, I did get a hint > that its base is flax. > > I am also sprouting for the family (4 adults, 1 toddler). I am thinking > sproutmaster because it is expandable? All opinions welcome. At this point, > my plan is to start with mixed sprouts and soaks, then expand to micro > greens and greens in trays? As I write this I am thinking maybe trays for > everything? I haven't purchase a thing, just developing " the plan " <gg>. > > > > __._,_._ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I have a sproutmaster and I've ordered 3 more...I have used jars and little square containers. I like the sproutmaster because of the size and the fact I'm had very good success. B. new member needs guidance Hi to y'all, I am new to the list and sprouting. I live in SE Louisiana. One question I have is: can I sprout flax seed in trays with dirt in my 90+ degree barn? It is for my free range chickens and I really don't want to carry trays from my house to the barn. Or maybe I just don't sprout in the summer? Or maybe this is a goofy idea? <G> What started the idea is " eggs " where the chickens are fed a special diet to increase the DHA in the eggs. Of course, the diet is proprietary, but, I did get a hint that its base is flax. I am also sprouting for the family (4 adults, 1 toddler). I am thinking sproutmaster because it is expandable? All opinions welcome. At this point, my plan is to start with mixed sprouts and soaks, then expand to micro greens and greens in trays? As I write this I am thinking maybe trays for everything? I haven't purchase a thing, just developing " the plan " <gg>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks for the replys y'all<g>. I can't plant my flax outside because the " chicken pen " is also my horse's nighttime paddock, so I'll just try trays in the barn with soil. I just finished reading Ann Wigmore's sprouting book, but I can't see my kitchen with 7 half gallon jars; I won't have any counter space<g>, unless someone has plans for a vertical rack. I'll gather some more info, take measurements and see how it will fit my available counter space. And, duh-h-h-, I'll search the archives<g>. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Try this. http://www.ehow.com/how_2373032_use-wine-rack-as-sprouter.html Lorri in NH mdschrantz wrote: > > > Thanks for the replys y'all<g>. > > I can't plant my flax outside because the " chicken pen " is also my > horse's nighttime paddock, so I'll just try trays in the barn with > soil. I just finished reading Ann Wigmore's sprouting book, but I > can't see my kitchen with 7 half gallon jars; I won't have any counter > space<g>, unless someone has plans for a vertical rack. I'll gather > some more info, take measurements and see how it will fit my available > counter space. And, duh-h-h-, I'll search the archives<g>. > > Thanks again. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks to Lee for the link to FodderSolutions. Chickens are mentioned as benefitting from their barley/sunflower sprout mix. Considering what I have learned in the archives about flax, I think I'll " skid the rig " (oilfield term) to barley/sunflower greens/grass. The chickens might even share with us<g>. I am a research-aholic, so onward to more information . . . I grew up riding at a stable who had a hydroponics house (like FodderSolutions) that grew oat grass/plants for the horses, no soil. Our horses looked slicker with less work than all the full-service stables who had full-time grooms. It never ceased to aggravate the upscale barn owners. Very progressive in the 60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Lorri, great link! ew Re: Re: new member needs guidance Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:30:16 -0400 Try this. http://www.ehow.com/how_2373032_use-wine-rack-as-sprouter.html Lorri in NH mdschrantz wrote: > > > Thanks for the replys y'all<g>. > > I can't plant my flax outside because the " chicken pen " is also my > horse's nighttime paddock, so I'll just try trays in the barn with > soil. I just finished reading Ann Wigmore's sprouting book, but I > can't see my kitchen with 7 half gallon jars; I won't have any counter > space<g>, unless someone has plans for a vertical rack. I'll gather > some more info, take measurements and see how it will fit my available > counter space. And, duh-h-h-, I'll search the archives<g>. > > Thanks again. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 , I lot of stores throw out display racks that they no longer have need for. Drive behind stores in your neighborhood. See whats there. ew Re: new member needs guidance Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:05:34 -0000 Thanks for the replys y'all<g>. I can't plant my flax outside because the " chicken pen " is also my horse's nighttime paddock, so I'll just try trays in the barn with soil. I just finished reading Ann Wigmore's sprouting book, but I can't see my kitchen with 7 half gallon jars; I won't have any counter space<g>, unless someone has plans for a vertical rack. I'll gather some more info, take measurements and see how it will fit my available counter space. And, duh-h-h-, I'll search the archives<g>. Thanks again. -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Interesting idea. Although I find it does help tremendously to keep them at an angle. (I saw they posted this: " As you can see I don't feel the need to keep my sprouting jars at a forty five degree angle. " ) If they are not kept at an angle, you really need to make sure that *all* of the water is out! I find it's easier to tip them over, at an angle, and let them drain on their own, once the bulk of the water is poured off. If I am doing one jar, I put in in my dish drain, or over a soup bowl. When I have several jars going, I use a cookie cooling rack, set into a plastic bin (one of the clear plastic storage bins, that come with a lid. I don't use the lid.) The cooling rack has legs, and sits up off the floor of the bin, and the wires of the rack give me something to rest the opening of the jar on, & the side of the jar rests on the side of the bin. The whole set up is about the size of a large dishpan, and holds 6 jars; Four along one wall, and the other two on either end in front of those. :~) Thia On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Lorri <L.Lacey@...> wrote: > > > Try this. > > http://www.ehow.com/how_2373032_use-wine-rack-as-sprouter.html > > Lorri in NH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 On Aug 30, 2009, at 3:34 PM, mdschrantz wrote: > I grew up riding at a stable who had a hydroponics house (like > FodderSolutions) that grew oat grass/plants for the horses, no > soil. Our horses looked slicker with less work than all the full- > service stables who had full-time grooms. It never ceased to > aggravate the upscale barn owners. Very progressive in the 60's. > > It's amazing that they came up with that forty years ago, to bad there wasn't an Internet back then, maybe more people would have gotten the word about how useful sprouts are. I found another web site that has a lot of interesting information about organic farming and gardening called Journey to Forever. Here's their poultry page, http://tinyurl.com/5o69hd . Their library has a lot of free out of print books on a number of different subjects. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hi Everyone, Thanks to a dear friend on this list (RS), I learned about the role of mold in my health, got most of the Shoemaker testing done through Vinitsky and meet the requirements for CIRS, and just last week tested my home to discover an ERMI of 16.60! I live in a moldy community, and my move to teach in this college town Gambier/Kenyon College) correlated with the demise of my health, which followed the classic pattern of respiratory illness that improved when I left town and eventually turned to serious infections, auto-immune, neurological, and then a viral infection that brought on CFS. All this started in 1982 -- nearly 30 years ago. I have been on disability since 1994. We had a mold remediator out here Thursday (the only local person in a small rural community). With my husband retired and free, we decided last night to put the home up for sale. Now we have a number of choices to make. Here's the first one: The remediation company (Ohio Mold) wants to treat the dormant mold in the crawl space growing on the floor joists of the living room by (a) spraying with Shockwave mold killer to soak everything, ( then scrubbing and removing the mold as well as the moldy insulation, © then using a fogger called MDF 500, and (d) then spot coating just the stained areas with s 40-25. My friend says many people are totally opposed to killing the mold because it fragments the spores, etc. But the remediation company doesn't want to remove it until it is killed. So how does one proceed? Also, any warnings about reactions to the chemicals? A CMR working in the area where my Mom lives said to use BBJ instead of s as it causes fewer reactions in sensitive people. Again, would be interested in opinions of those who've been through it. JanisB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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