Guest guest Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Too many people are confused by diagnosis which is all too often completely wrong, but given in order to collect insurance money. Autism is autism ranging from " mild " to non-verbal. People and particularly MD's forget that people are INDIVIDUALS, and as such, the respond differently to brain problems. In my and many other researchers opinion, there is simply one continuum that ranges from the simplest ADD/ADHD to the non-verbal " vegetable " state. Every autistic child is also ADD/ADHD, but autism begins with some sot of brain damage. That's the dividing line, and it is literally impossible for any MD or other " doctor " to tell this dividing line and how far along any patient is. You cannot measure the unconscious mind, and even measuring the conscious mind is, at best, guesswork. There is a simple and relatively cheap therapy system that is done at home that dramatically improves the ADD/ADHD portion, and gradually improves the autism portion over more time. This is explained fully in a free lengthy article at: http://drbate.com/content/integrated.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Just because a child is non-verbal does NOT mean they are a vegetable. There are many non-verbal autistic children have been proven to be trapped inside. Bonker is one. She is a young teenage girl who is non-verbal but has learned to type conversations and has written beautiful insightful poetry. Tito Mukhopadyay is a teenage boy who is also non-verbal but just like , he writes amazing poetry and can explain many of the things he does and what Autism means to him. Dov Shestack is another. Non-verbal but communicates through typing. These children are not vegetables. They are amazing, inspiring children who are trapped inside their own minds. Making gerneralizations like that is hurtful. " Strange Son " - Portia Iversen " I Am in Here " - Bonker and Virginia Breen > > Too many people are confused by diagnosis which is all too often completely > wrong, but given in order to collect insurance money. Autism is autism > ranging from " mild " to non-verbal. People and particularly MD's forget > that people are INDIVIDUALS, and as such, the respond differently to brain > problems. In my and many other researchers opinion, there is simply one > continuum that ranges from the simplest ADD/ADHD to the non-verbal > " vegetable " state. Every autistic child is also ADD/ADHD, but autism > begins with some sot of brain damage. That's the dividing line, and it is > literally impossible for any MD or other " doctor " to tell this dividing > line and how far along any patient is. You cannot measure the unconscious > mind, and even measuring the conscious mind is, at best, guesswork. > > There is a simple and relatively cheap therapy system that is done at home > that dramatically improves the ADD/ADHD portion, and gradually improves the > autism portion over more time. This is explained fully in a free lengthy > article at: > http://drbate.com/content/integrated.shtml > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Well , I've had success with my 4 part therapy with over 500 ADD-Autism kids and some adults, and if you don't believe that there is brain damage (mostly from mercury), then you are sadly out of the loop on current knowledge, and a victim of Big Pharma's propaganda. You are kidding yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Amen! Although it was thimerosal (mercury in vaccines). I guess the jury might still be out about environmental mercury. But my DS has always had a perfectly healthy one might even say thriving digestive system and gut. No mercury related issues of any kind. Big pharma ain't all that interested in autism. Chelating quacks and supplement snake oil salesmen have a much larger stake. Did you miss when the doctor in England confessed that he made the whole mercury link thing up? And sorry, I’m offended that you refer to me— someone with AS— as brain damaged. Well , I've had success with my 4 part therapy with over 500 ADD-Autism kids and some adults, and if you don't believe that there is brain damage (mostly from mercury), then you are sadly out of the loop on current knowledge, and a victim of Big Pharma's propaganda. You are kidding yourself. -- “A man can be himself only so long as he is alone.”-- Arthur Schopenhauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 As I said to Dr Bate, please think about the words you use before posting. Some people in this group have had good results from chelation and supplements. What I object to is the idea that what works for one person must work for everyone. But you are right, not much money is made out of pharmaceutical treatments for autism. A lot of money has been made from other sorts of treatments, and it appears that none of them are guaranteed to work for everyone. Nothing beats a combination of research and trial and error. It's just a pity that so much of the 'trial and error' is so expensive. When it comes to mercury, etc, could I please suggest everyone do their own research and that we not argue that again here? I don't believe there is any evidence that my son or I have been affected by mercury, but I am not prepared to generalise our experience to everyone. On 7/08/2012 1:14 PM, Shapiro wrote:  Amen!  Although it was thimerosal (mercury in vaccines).  I guess the jury might still be out about environmental mercury.  But my DS has always had a perfectly healthy one might even say thriving digestive system and gut.  No mercury related issues of any kind.  Big pharma ain't all that interested in autism.  Chelating quacks and supplement snake oil salesmen have a much larger stake.  Did you miss when the doctor in England confessed that he made the whole mercury link thing up? And sorry, I�m offended that you refer to me� someone with AS� as brain damaged. On 8/6/12 8:22 PM, "Phil Bate PhD" wrote:      Well , I've had success with my 4 part therapy with over 500 ADD-Autism kids and some adults, and if you don't believe that there is brain damage (mostly from mercury), then you are sadly out of the loop on current knowledge, and a victim of Big Pharma's propaganda. You are kidding yourself.     -- �A man can be himself only so long as he is alone.�-- Arthur Schopenhauer No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5182 - Release Date: 08/06/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 That said, will somebody ban that time-wasting troll?? Amen! Although it was thimerosal (mercury in vaccines). I guess the jury might still be out about environmental mercury. But my DS has always had a perfectly healthy one might even say thriving digestive system and gut. No mercury related issues of any kind. Big pharma ain't all that interested in autism. Chelating quacks and supplement snake oil salesmen have a much larger stake. Did you miss when the doctor in England confessed that he made the whole mercury link thing up? And sorry, I’m offended that you refer to me— someone with AS— as brain damaged. On 8/6/12 8:22 PM, " Phil Bate PhD " > wrote: Well , I've had success with my 4 part therapy with over 500 ADD-Autism kids and some adults, and if you don't believe that there is brain damage (mostly from mercury), then you are sadly out of the loop on current knowledge, and a victim of Big Pharma's propaganda. You are kidding yourself. -- " You have a natural right... a natural right—not a legislated right, a natural right— to refuse to participate in anything that assaults your body or your conscience. " --Dr. Jack Kevorkian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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