Re: HOW FREE do you have to be of mold to heal?

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Ive been out of my WDB for five years. In some ways I am better but VERY

reactive still

Janet

In a message dated 1/8/2011 6:28:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betsyanderson55@... writes:

This may seem a silly question, but how free do you have to be of mold to

heal?

[Guest guest]

Avoidance is the key to getting better as is with MCS.   You do have to be rid

of the mold contamination or you are just fighting it.  Mold exposure with most

is for life if it made you ill. 

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: " Gingersnap1964@... " <Gingersnap1964@...>

Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 6:35:29 PM

Subject: Re: [] HOW FREE do you have to be of mold to heal?

 

Ive been out of my WDB for five years. In some ways I am better but VERY

reactive still

Janet

In a message dated 1/8/2011 6:28:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betsyanderson55@... writes:

This may seem a silly question, but how free do you have to be of mold to

heal?

[Guest guest]

Maybe here is a better way to state my question.

I understand and it makes perfect sense to me that you need to be free of a WDB

to heal.

But what I think I'm coming across, and I've read others talking about, is

feeling unwell in something that is not a WDB. Just somewhere that maybe

somebody walked into from a WDB. Or used a computer that was in an area that

had mold. It seems the building is ok, maybe it has a slightly elevated spore

count. Do you need to be away from even that? Or if you follow the protocols

doing your best to stay away from WDBs, will they still work for you and maybe

help you feel better in your non-WDB?

Betsy

>

> This may seem a silly question, but how free do you have to be of mold to

heal?

>

> I know you have to leave the WDB, and we did that in September. But our

health (3 children and me) keeps declining, at least for myself and my son. We

have bounced around between hotels and apartments since.

>

> Over the holidays we stayed in a hotel room that felt ok for a few days but

then not great. I have now reached a point of incredible sensitivity -- in a

" safe " place now, but my husband visited and laid down on the bed wearing

clothes that had been in the dubious hotel room (though washed with Borax) and

after he had using his computer (not in this house) that he has used in a few

moldy places -- and now I have mold reactions in the bedroom. My kids are not

reacting. I cleaned my credit cards and they now make me feel nauseous.

>

> I am wondering whether it is possible to get completely away. We are not

horribly ill, not disabled -- feel pretty much fine when not around mold. We

are taking CSM. But can the healing process really be stopped by being in a

place where the bedroom makes me unable to sleep because my husband was there?

>

> Betsy

>

[Guest guest]

It's really hard-everyday there seems to be a new thing I react to. Newest

thing-dollar bills. Seems that some are really moldy and I threw away a wallet

because I thought it was the moldy culprit but it was the money! Ridiculous.

To answer your question as to how long-I'm afraid the answer is probably

forever. And once I was made sick by the mold, I becamse really chemically

sensitive too and react to all kinds of stuff. Sounds like that's what's going

on with you now. In your hypersensitive state everything is bad. Especially

hotel rooms where you can't control the cleaners they use or the cleanliness of

the carpeting, etc. And the healing doesn't exactly stop-it's more like it gets

stalled for a while. I've used Jin Shin energy work for years to keep me at a

place where small exposures don't send me into a tailspin. Are you doing any

kind of treatment or therapy?

It takes a long time and re-exposures happen and send me back to square one. Get

as much fresh air as you can and eventually you will be feeling better.

Good luck, Surella

>

> This may seem a silly question, but how free do you have to be of mold to

heal?

>

> I know you have to leave the WDB, and we did that in September. But our

health (3 children and me) keeps declining, at least for myself and my son. We

have bounced around between hotels and apartments since.

>

> Over the holidays we stayed in a hotel room that felt ok for a few days but

then not great. I have now reached a point of incredible sensitivity -- in a

" safe " place now, but my husband visited and laid down on the bed wearing

clothes that had been in the dubious hotel room (though washed with Borax) and

after he had using his computer (not in this house) that he has used in a few

moldy places -- and now I have mold reactions in the bedroom. My kids are not

reacting. I cleaned my credit cards and they now make me feel nauseous.

>

> I am wondering whether it is possible to get completely away. We are not

horribly ill, not disabled -- feel pretty much fine when not around mold. We

are taking CSM. But can the healing process really be stopped by being in a

place where the bedroom makes me unable to sleep because my husband was there?

>

> Betsy

>

[Guest guest]

good question, i am in the same place.

It seems the building is ok, maybe it has a slightly elevated spore count. Do

you need to be away from even that?

but where do we go? i was told to clean the safe place and try to REMOVE all

mold spores, with wiping everything down with water and use hepa vacuum, open

window air out a lot, possible take csm, which i am. i think it is a constant

ongoing thing to clean, be careful of others coming in , but how can we know

where everyone has been, and things like computers. many say it is a hard

plastic and should be fine. i took my to the apple store, it had some little

cracks so apple replaced the entire casing, so the only original piece on the

computer is the screen, took off backing and blow out the inside (you could that

) yet i am reacting to it. is it mold? or is it the new plastic?

how do i know, do i buy a new one, and if it was the plastic will i react to the

new one? and the expense? i guess after i clean house, remove all items i react

to , bed, sheets, pillow, use air purifiers, if the only thing i react to is

computer i will have to replace. i worry all the time

i feel you.

denise

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From: betsyhomeed <betsyanderson55@...>

Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 2:09:15 AM

Subject: [] Re: HOW FREE do you have to be of mold to heal?

Maybe here is a better way to state my question.

I understand and it makes perfect sense to me that you need to be free of a WDB

to heal.

But what I think I'm coming across, and I've read others talking about, is

feeling unwell in something that is not a WDB. Just somewhere that maybe

somebody walked into from a WDB. Or used a computer that was in an area that

had mold. It seems the building is ok, maybe it has a slightly elevated spore

count. Do you need to be away from even that? Or if you follow the protocols

doing your best to stay away from WDBs, will they still work for you and maybe

help you feel better in your non-WDB?

Betsy

[Guest guest]

many of us not only have to avoid mold but also many things that produce VOC's,

other chemicals, purfumes, gasses, ect.

>

> Maybe here is a better way to state my question.

>

> I understand and it makes perfect sense to me that you need to be free of a

WDB to heal.

>

> But what I think I'm coming across, and I've read others talking about, is

feeling unwell in something that is not a WDB. Just somewhere that maybe

somebody walked into from a WDB. Or used a computer that was in an area that

had mold. It seems the building is ok, maybe it has a slightly elevated spore

count. Do you need to be away from even that? Or if you follow the protocols

doing your best to stay away from WDBs, will they still work for you and maybe

help you feel better in your non-WDB?

>

> Betsy

>

>

[Guest guest]

But what I think I'm coming across, and I've read others talking about, is

feeling unwell in something that is not a WDB. Just somewhere that maybe

somebody walked into from a WDB. Or used a computer that was in an area that had

mold.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER BE TOTALLY SHELTERED FROM ALL CHEMICAL ASSAULTS ALL

THE TIME, THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY. WE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR BEST. WE CAN HEAL

EVEN THOUGH LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN BETWEEN.

It seems the building is ok, maybe it has a slightly elevated spore count. Do

you need to be away from even that?

IT DEPENDS. HOW ELEVATED? YOU SAY MAYBE SLIGHTLY. IF IT IS JUST A SUSPICION

BASED ON STILL FEELING SICK BUT YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PROTOCOLS AND ARE MAKING

PROGRESS THEN IT SEEMS LIKE NO WORRIES.

Or if you follow the protocols doing your best to stay away from WDBs, will they

still work for you and maybe help you feel better in your non-WDB?

ABSOLUTELY! YES! NEVER STOP DETOXING, TAKING ANTIFUNGALS AND DOING ALL YOUR

PROTOCOLS. IT JUST TAKES SUCH A LONG TIME TO IMPROVE ONCE WE GET LIKE

THIS........ VERY SLOW PROGRESS........

[Guest guest]

I am sitting in my kitchen babysitting my 7 month old moldy granddaughter who

lives in a moldy apartment and even though I have wiped down her head with a

babywipe (don't tell her Mommy), changed her clothes and put her blankie outside

with all the rest of her stuff, I am still affected.

It takes one second of exposure for me and I'm compromised-not sick yet today, I

used a mask when i changed her clothes, but definitely compromised. For me this

means another unlucky exposure or two this week WILL bring me down.

It's so tricky because I adore my grandchildren (all of whom are moldy) and take

tremendous precautions in order to take care of them but still, it's an

exposure.

Surella

>

> But what I think I'm coming across, and I've read others talking about, is

feeling unwell in something that is not a WDB. Just somewhere that maybe

somebody walked into from a WDB. Or used a computer that was in an area that had

mold.

> I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER BE TOTALLY SHELTERED FROM ALL CHEMICAL ASSAULTS ALL

THE TIME, THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY. WE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR BEST. WE CAN HEAL

EVEN THOUGH LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN BETWEEN.

>

> It seems the building is ok, maybe it has a slightly elevated spore count. Do

you need to be away from even that?

> IT DEPENDS. HOW ELEVATED? YOU SAY MAYBE SLIGHTLY. IF IT IS JUST A SUSPICION

BASED ON STILL FEELING SICK BUT YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PROTOCOLS AND ARE MAKING

PROGRESS THEN IT SEEMS LIKE NO WORRIES.

>

> Or if you follow the protocols doing your best to stay away from WDBs, will

they still work for you and maybe help you feel better in your non-WDB?

> ABSOLUTELY! YES! NEVER STOP DETOXING, TAKING ANTIFUNGALS AND DOING ALL YOUR

PROTOCOLS. IT JUST TAKES SUCH A LONG TIME TO IMPROVE ONCE WE GET LIKE

THIS........ VERY SLOW PROGRESS........

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

baby wipes cause me a horriable reaction, so does most other baby products.

>

> I am sitting in my kitchen babysitting my 7 month old moldy granddaughter who

lives in a moldy apartment and even though I have wiped down her head with a

babywipe (don't tell her Mommy), changed her clothes and put her blankie outside

with all the rest of her stuff, I am still affected.

> It takes one second of exposure for me and I'm compromised-not sick yet today,

I used a mask when i changed her clothes, but definitely compromised. For me

this means another unlucky exposure or two this week WILL bring me down.

> It's so tricky because I adore my grandchildren (all of whom are moldy) and

take tremendous precautions in order to take care of them but still, it's an

exposure.

> Surella