Re: ANITA/ CARL ////// Vaccuming

[Guest guest]

I wonder about vaccumming. If the tiniest particles are the most dangerous bec

they cannot be caught by a mask or your lungs but go directly into your blood

stream, then I would think vaccuuming ANYTHING would be a bad idea, since when

you vaccuum, you only catch large particles and the fine particles are sprayed

into the air. The smaller the particle, the longer it stays airbourne too.

Could stay airborne for hours. After vaccumming here a number of time even with

a new 'outer' bag on vaccuum realized air smelled so may get rid of few things I

still need to vaccuum, like area rugs and not vaccum anymore.

Hard surface I would damp wipe and after that has dried, damp wipe again, bec

inevitably you won't get it all. I would only vaccuum an area you cannot get to

damp wipe but of course if you can't reach it to damp wipe, it probably will

never be airborne anyway.

I don't have a hepa vaccuum though so my vaccumm puts out larger particles but

if it is hepa, it still puts out particles, they are just limited to the most

dangerous ones.

>

> (non washable items) if only spores can put them outside for a few days be ok

or in the dryer?

> YES, LET THEM AIR OUT OUTSIDE, THAT WILL DO JUST FINE. I WOULDN'T PUT THEM IN

THE DRYER.

>

> don't want to drive you crazy but do you vacuum first then wipe down or vice

> versa?

> I WOULD VACUUM FIRST

[Guest guest]

I mentioned it as more of a long term plan...to not have as many things that

need vaccuming. If you have carpet, you really have no choice. You mentioned

an air cleaner. That should help to run right afterwards but there will be

particles smaller than air cleaner can catch. This is suggestion for really

dangerous situations...to think, do I really want to vaccum area and aerosolize

tiniest of particles...not specifically your own situation, just something I had

wanted to bring up in general. Maybe vacuum to a minimum, and not vaccum hard

floors which I know many people, including myself do before mopping. Damp

mopping is so easy, you could almost do it daily and that would be better than

running a vaccum cleaner at any time but rugs and carpet etc, that is only way

to clean.

>Re: vaccuming...

> then what is the solution?

[Guest guest]

, I didn't mean to make life so hard on you! You have an excellent vacuum

cleaner if you are going to vacuum. Answer from me would be " depends on if you

are in a sick house " or not. I did not read your other posts. I was just

commenting on 'vacuuming in general versus damp wiping' which was subject a few

posts ago. If you can clean by damp wiping alone that is better than vacuuming.

If you can only vacuum, then you don't want to let it get dirty and using the

good vac you bought is best option. If you are very sick, perhaps someone else

can vacuum who is not sick, or air out house or put air cleaner on and leave

rooms afterwards. This is being very fussy though..most people do vacuum and if

you do, the hepa you have bought is one of the best. If you used broom, I'd

wouldn't sweep it vigorously, not to get things airborne, but just enough to get

visible crumbes, pet hair up. Using swiffer might help for pet hairs etc and

then damp wipe. If your house has been very sick and you can afford it and you

are staying, you might get rid of carpet eventually, but then again ...I

don't know your story.

>

> is sweeping better than vacuuming? we have 3 pets and need to pick up somehow.

i

> thought the walls, all wood items, pictures nic nacks, soft furniture would

need

> to vacuum off spores? then wiped off. i do have one room that is carpet,

> so was barb right that the small particles go airborne and into blood sys? the

> dangerous ones

> i just bought this vacuum last thursday. i contacted consumer report for the

> best hepa and tightest seal.

> it is a miele and supposed to not put particle back out, i am so confused and

> tired of being sick, thinking i maybe have a plan and a way out and every time

> it comes to a hopeless end with no solutions.

>

> thanks for your help

>

[Guest guest]

, on further thought running a hepa air cleaner may not do much if you

have used a good hepa vacuum cleaner since particle size it catches would be the

same, UNLESS just running the vacuum disturbed air around it, kicked up stuff

around it, then it might help. I'd just vacuum before I was to leave house for

errands or something like that. Here's something on particle size and your

health at link below.

If your house is not a sick house, it shouldn't be a problem to vacuum; but if

house had water damage, and the carpet you are cleaning was there through the

water damage, then you may want to be careful...maybe wear a mask, maybe one of

those half masks that were just posted and after vacuuming go on errands.

Sometimes you need to be creative in solution.

I was interested in topic bec I had considered investing in a good hepa vacuum,

but then thought perhaps I would move toward not having things that need

vacuuming...but now I do have to vacuum. I vacuum weekly. Bedrooms are

carpeted.

Particle pollution:

http://www.airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=particle_health.page1#1

In , Danel <denise.danel@> wrote:

> >

> > is sweeping better than vacuuming?

[Guest guest]

, where did you get your air purifiers? Dr Brunschwig at the Helios clinic

can get them for you at cost. If your looking for a mold Dr be may be able to

help you. Also, when your wiping your things down make sure you have plenty of

clean rags. The mold remediater we hired folded his rags in fourths, whenever he

wiped something down he was always using a the clean part of the rag when he

used the entire rag he'd get a clean one and start the process all over.

>

> thank you,

> then how do we clean on a daily basis? i have hard wood floors except one

small

> area, with animals need to clean floors, i think sweeping would be worse. i

> bought a miele hepa, supposed to be a tighter canister than any other and gets

> the small particle, i'm sure not everything, made in germany, has a 7 yr

> warranty, very good very expensive. i am hoping in this case i get what i paid

> for:))))))))

>

> i have air purifiers coming to hopefully catch the airborne particles. will

this

> help? should i wait to clean until i have purifiers so after vacuum they catch

> the air borne stuff. very confusing and hard to life with

>

> thanks denise