Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Kim - I just got mine from Tropical Traditions, it's the Needak brand. It is well built. I have read so many great things about rebounders, and I just received the book " Rebound Exercise- The Ultimate Exercise for the new Millennium " by Albert , and it is literally loaded with info and exercises. I also got his vision book along with that, enhancing vision was one of the first things to get me interested in rebounding, but there's so much more! Probably the perfect aerobic exercise. -- Steve <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I use a coffee bean grinder as a mini mill. It's was inexpensive and available at any place that sells small kitchen appliances. Rebekah Re: probiotics On Saturday, February 5, 2005, at 03:36 PM, Rebekah Dowd wrote: > Also, what about using flax seeds to treat the constipation? There is > a good recipe in NT for this; > > Grind 1 TBLSP. flax seeds in a mini mill and mix with 1 cup filtered > water. Drink immediately. > > Rebekah > Thank you Rebekah...we will give this a try...we need a mini mill. Where do they sell mini mills? Thanks, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Sandy- >We just recently about one week >ago started her on commercial kefir (Helios) and Redwood Hill Farm's >goat's yogurt with s.thermophilus, l. bulgaricus, l. acidophilus & >bifidus added. Helios kefir includes FOS, so I ***STRONGLY*** recommend that you discontinue it immediately. Make your own full-fat kefir instead -- it's pretty easy, and if your daughter has no problems with lactose (and constipation certainly suggests she doesn't) then you don't have to worry about precisely controlling the fermentation. Also, Custom Probiotics (http://www.customprobiotics.com/) makes excellent probiotics. And consider adding more healthy fat to your daughter's diet. Grass-fed animal foods, grass-fed cream and butter, etc. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 On Monday, February 7, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Idol wrote: > Helios kefir includes FOS, so I ***STRONGLY*** recommend that you > discontinue it immediately. What is the problem with FOS? Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 > What is the problem with FOS? > Sandy Some believe ingesting FOS is like throwing gasoline on a fire. It is up to you to determine what to believe. Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 At 06:30 PM 2/7/05 -0600, you wrote: > >> What is the problem with FOS? >> Sandy > >Some believe ingesting FOS is like throwing gasoline on a fire. >It is up to you to determine what to believe. > >Darrell So somebody wanna tell me what FOS means? MFJ Once, poets were magicians. Poets were strong, stronger than warriors or kings - stronger than old hapless gods. And they will be strong once again. ~Greg Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Kyodophilus is the name I keep seeing in the emails for this group. I believe it's one of the brands that Dr. G recommends. Probiotics > > What's the most commonly used brand of probiotics patients use? > Thanks. > > Med. > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yes, i was recently given Cutlurelle by a naturopathic doctor who I went to for the first time . It contains Rhamnosus GG also called lactobacillus GG which has been shown to help with C difficile and rotovirus. It also contains inulin, and tiny amounts of casein and whey. My response was not a good one. I have a bad reaction to a number of foods that cause me to wake in the middle of the night and not be able to return to sleep and be hung over and mentally and physically worthless for a number of days.. I know a many things that cause this in me and am learning to avoid them like the plague, but don't understand the whole story yet. i do not know why this pill caused this reaction. Maybe this was a case of inulin feeding the " bad/overgrown " bacteria. Maybe Rhamnosus is the bacteria that I have too much of. Maybe the tiny amount of casien and whey were the culprits. But several nights of experimenting were enough for me. I threw them out. If you want Rhanmosus in particular, i would try another brand without inulin. If you just want a probiotic, I would get a mixture. Ellen REMOC wrote: > I thought I'd take a break from using Primal Defense. I am wondering > about some other brands.Does anyone know about " Culturelle " made by > ConAgra and marketed by Allergy Research or " Ultra Micro Plex " or > " BioBifidus " by American Biologics? > > Phil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I take HLC (Human Lactic Commensals) by Pharmax and really like this product. vsp On 1/22/06, REMOC <REMOCLIHP@...> wrote: > > I thought I'd take a break from using Primal Defense. I am wondering about > some other brands.Does anyone know about " Culturelle " made by ConAgra and > marketed by Allergy Research or " Ultra Micro Plex " or " BioBifidus " by > American Biologics? > > Phil > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Thanks Ellen . That's enough for me notto try it as I do have issues with dairy. Phil > > Yes, i was recently given Cutlurelle by a naturopathic doctor who I went > to for the first time . It contains Rhamnosus GG also called > lactobacillus GG which has been shown to help with C difficile and > rotovirus. It also contains inulin, and tiny amounts of casein and whey. > > My response was not a good one. I have a bad reaction to a number of > foods that cause me to wake in the middle of the night and not be able > to return to sleep and be hung over and mentally and physically > worthless for a number of days.. I know a many things that cause this > in me and am learning to avoid them like the plague, but don't > understand the whole story yet. i do not know why this pill caused this > reaction. Maybe this was a case of inulin feeding the " bad/overgrown " > bacteria. Maybe Rhamnosus is the bacteria that I have too much of. > Maybe the tiny amount of casien and whey were the culprits. But several > nights of experimenting were enough for me. I threw them out. > > If you want Rhanmosus in particular, i would try another brand without > inulin. If you just want a probiotic, I would get a mixture. > > Ellen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Ellen- >If you want Rhanmosus in particular, i would try another brand without >inulin. If you just want a probiotic, I would get a mixture. Custom Probiotics sells pure bulk rhamnosus. I don't know of any other filler-free source, though there may be one. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 I just wanted to throw out that the reason for the two hour space between giving the acidophilus and the antibiotic is that the antibiotic will kill the probiotic and therefore render it useless if you give them too close together. I also want to throw in that, if I understand things correctly, Dr. G prefers the acidophilus (also kyodophilus) line of probiotics because they only provide probiotics that should generally be present in a normal digestive tract. Some other probiotics add things in that would NOT normally be found in the average digestive tract and can therefore throw a child off. Caroline > You do still have to use > acidophilus (two hours before or after the antibiotic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 i do know this, that when my son was much younger, he was on antibiotics constantly. i know for a fact that it messed up his gut. im still dealing with gut issues to this day (8 yrs later!). vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Which antibiotics will render the probiotic useless? All of them or just some? Did Dr. G tell you this? He has never told us this. It's a hard thing to do when you give antibiotics 3x per day. It is hard enough for me to remember to do the 3 different dosings of meds. To try to give the probiotics 2 hours separate will make it really hard. Do you do this? --- Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote: > I just wanted to throw out that the reason for the > two hour space between > giving the acidophilus and the antibiotic is that > the antibiotic will kill > the probiotic and therefore render it useless if you > give them too close > together. > > I also want to throw in that, if I understand things > correctly, Dr. G > prefers the acidophilus (also kyodophilus) line of > probiotics because they > only provide probiotics that should generally be > present in a normal > digestive tract. Some other probiotics add things > in that would NOT > normally be found in the average digestive tract and > can therefore throw a > child off. > > Caroline > > > > > You do still have to use > > acidophilus (two hours before or after the > antibiotic) > > > Barb Katsaros barbkatsaros@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Barb, I found this on the web... " Since the invention of antibiotics, a diverse number of antibiotics have been produced. Most are medium- and broad-spectrum antibiotics which, instead of killing the offending bacteria, kill ALL bacteria. These include tetracyclines, ciprofloxacin, bacitracin, erythromycins, penicillin, cephalosporins, and streptomycins. One of the side effects of medium- and, especially, broad-spectrum antibiotics is that they radically change the bacterial population in the intestines. Because these antibiotics kill all bacteria‹even good bacteria that fight infectious bad bacteria‹they put the body at risk for superinfection by fungi and other microorganisms. " I guess that means that a lot of the antibiotics we take do kill everything, but there must be some that don't. My pharmacist told us to space the probiotics so the antibiotics wouldn't kill them. I haven't ever asked Dr. G's opinion... probably one of us should (anyone have a phone consult coming up?). It would be nice to know what he has to say on the subject. Caroline > From: Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> > Reply-< > > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:34:02 -0800 (PST) > < > > Subject: Re: Probiotics > > Which antibiotics will render the probiotic useless? > All of them or just some? Did Dr. G tell you this? > He has never told us this. It's a hard thing to do > when you give antibiotics 3x per day. It is hard > enough for me to remember to do the 3 different > dosings of meds. To try to give the probiotics 2 > hours separate will make it really hard. Do you do > this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I actually did ask Dr G this question in a phone consult a few months ago. He told me 1 hour apart should be OK. I try to do 2 hours to be safe but sometimes its only 1. > > Barb, > > I found this on the web... > > " Since the invention of antibiotics, a diverse number of antibiotics have > been produced. Most are medium- and broad-spectrum antibiotics which, > instead of killing the offending bacteria, kill ALL bacteria. These include > tetracyclines, ciprofloxacin, bacitracin, erythromycins, penicillin, > cephalosporins, and streptomycins. > > One of the side effects of medium- and, especially, broad-spectrum > antibiotics is that they radically change the bacterial population in the > intestines. Because these antibiotics kill all bacteria‹even good bacteria > that fight infectious bad bacteria‹they put the body at risk for > superinfection by fungi and other microorganisms. " > > I guess that means that a lot of the antibiotics we take do kill everything, > but there must be some that don't. > > My pharmacist told us to space the probiotics so the antibiotics wouldn't > kill them. > > I haven't ever asked Dr. G's opinion... probably one of us should (anyone > have a phone consult coming up?). It would be nice to know what he has to > say on the subject. > > Caroline > > > > From: Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> > > Reply-< > > > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:34:02 -0800 (PST) > > < > > > Subject: Re: Probiotics > > > > Which antibiotics will render the probiotic useless? > > All of them or just some? Did Dr. G tell you this? > > He has never told us this. It's a hard thing to do > > when you give antibiotics 3x per day. It is hard > > enough for me to remember to do the 3 different > > dosings of meds. To try to give the probiotics 2 > > hours separate will make it really hard. Do you do > > this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 And my son had to be on antibiotics several times before/after surgeries as an infant. I too have been battling this ever since. It really makes you wonder about the entire impact antibiotics have had our the world's health/ability to fight infection/feeding the super-bug concept! > > i do know this, that when my son was much younger, he was on antibiotics > constantly. i know for a fact that it messed up his gut. im still dealing with > gut issues to this day (8 yrs later!). > > vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Thanks for helping... because I am otherwise CLUELESS. GNC is the only place I can think of that would have anything around here, and they don't carry anything I've seen mentioned other than Primal Defense. Also, I can't afford $30. I'll be borrowing money as it is to do the $80 dentist appointment and what ever treatment I need, then add at least another $25 for an rx. If the cheaper stuff at GNC could work, I really have to go with that or nothing. Here's what Kyo-Dophilus, that was recommended, contains: L. acidophilus, B. bifidum and B. longum. These specially cultured human strains are carefully processed to retain viability at room temperature But GNC has one for $8 that has everything but the B. longum: L. Acidophilus Bifidobacterium bifidum Lactobacillus bulgaricus Lactobacillus lactis sp. lactus Lactobacillus rhamnosus Lactobacillus salivarius steptococcus thermophilus (That one is chewable.) Another that is in pill form called: Natural Brand Acidophilus 1 Billion CFU says it's a probiotic blend and has: 1 billion organisms, L. acidophilus, B. bifidum, L. helveticus, and S. thermophilus. Would either of these work, gals? They both say they that, among other things, they are used when antibiotics deplete healthy bacteria. Also, should these ONLY be taken while I'm on an antiobiotic, or would they be good to take all the time to fight the yeast issues? If the $8 ones work, I can swing that per month. Thanks...and again, sorry to bother everyone. I know you all must be tired of answering the same questions over and over so I tried the archives, but there are SO many hits for "probiotics," and like I said -GNC only has 1 that's been mentioned, and I can't afford over $10/mo or so. Brig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 I will try the kraut, so long as I can stomach it. I kept the recipe. ---Thank you! Brig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 There is a probiotic that might be covered under insurance. It's called Floraster. I use Dr. Ohhira's Probiotics 12 Plus--worth the money. > > Gals, I'm sorry to bother you all with this... > > Do you all know of any 'probiotics' that are covered by health insurance? I > have a toothache, and if it's no better over the weekend, I am going to have > to get into my dentist. This has resulted in the need of an antibiotic (and > root canal or extraction) every time. (I took 3 10 day rounds of Clindamycin > 450mg/day between May and June and was left lethargic and craving sugar until > I found the group here and figured out why.) I want to be prepared with a > probiotic, but Primal Defense is $45 and $50 at GNC. (I need to go some place in > person to buy, because I can't pay by credit card.) > > Are " Acidophilus " products the same? There are a lot of those that are > pretty cheap. ($8.) > There is one called " Nutrition Now Probiotics Acidophilus, " but it has > Silica. > > The others don't mention " Probiotic " that are " Acidophilus " types. > > I've tried figuring it out myself, and can't make sense of it. They both > mention live... " stuff " in them. (?) lol > > Thanks for any help, > Brig > PS: If it works, here is what came up when I searched " probiotics " on > _www.gnc.com_ (http://www.gnc.com) > The first row shows the Primal Defense 'herbal' type supplements, the second > shows 'health concern' product results. If I could find something cheap > enough, I would go ahead and start taking it all the time due to the yeast issues > I seem to have. (I see my doc about it August 29.) > > _GNC: Search for " probiotics " ._ > (http://www.gnc.com/searchHandler/index.jsp? searchId=18197315162 & change_search=products & keywords=probiotics & y=0 & x =0) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 If you have a local health store near you, go in and ask someone who works there to give you advice. If you're going to get one that is not very much money, try Kyodopholis. It's pretty good, I think. If you can find a store that carries Dr. Ohhira's, it usually cost's around $32. Hope your tooth ache goes away. > > > > Gals, I'm sorry to bother you all with this... > > > > Do you all know of any 'probiotics' that are covered by health > insurance? I > > have a toothache, and if it's no better over the weekend, I am > going to have > > to get into my dentist. This has resulted in the need of an > antibiotic (and > > root canal or extraction) every time. (I took 3 10 day rounds of > Clindamycin > > 450mg/day between May and June and was left lethargic and craving > sugar until > > I found the group here and figured out why.) I want to be > prepared with a > > probiotic, but Primal Defense is $45 and $50 at GNC. (I need to > go some place in > > person to buy, because I can't pay by credit card.) > > > > Are " Acidophilus " products the same? There are a lot of those > that are > > pretty cheap. ($8.) > > There is one called " Nutrition Now Probiotics Acidophilus, " but > it has > > Silica. > > > > The others don't mention " Probiotic " that are " Acidophilus " types. > > > > I've tried figuring it out myself, and can't make sense of it. > They both > > mention live... " stuff " in them. (?) lol > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Brig > > PS: If it works, here is what came up when I > searched " probiotics " on > > _www.gnc.com_ (http://www.gnc.com) > > The first row shows the Primal Defense 'herbal' type supplements, > the second > > shows 'health concern' product results. If I could find something > cheap > > enough, I would go ahead and start taking it all the time due to > the yeast issues > > I seem to have. (I see my doc about it August 29.) > > > > _GNC: Search for " probiotics " ._ > > (http://www.gnc.com/searchHandler/index.jsp? > searchId=18197315162 & change_search=products & keywords=probiotics & y=0 & x > =0) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Brigite . . . The difference between the various probiotics are the types of live (yes, live) organisms in them . . . Acidopholis doesn't contain neary as many as Primal Defense . . . The only kind of acidopholis you should take is the type that's found in the refrigerated section of the store . . . That's expensive too - not as much as Primal Defense though. One thing you can do is to make your own protiotics . .. Homemade sauerkraut is outstanding! . . . In "Patient Heal Yourself", Dr. Rubin recommended two tablespoons three times a day . . . You can also get a starter and make your own yogurt. I haven't tried it, but you can also make Keflir. . . Dr. Rubin recommends eating naturally fermented vegetables . . . You might find that making your own is the cheapest way to go. I posted a recipe for sauerkraut, but the computer with the recipe on it is down right now . . . Maybe Patty or Kathy saved a copy of the recipe. I think it tastes wonderful . .. you can cook, but it's best eaten raw. Grapefruit seed extract may help you with the tooth infection. It's pretty cheap . . . the liquid tastes awful, but you'd know it's going to the source! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 The sauerkraut recipe is in our Recipes section....go to database, and the first folder is recipes. It's there...ruby Sauerkraut. I bet it is good....I haven't had time to make it yet, though I bought the ingredients to do so, several times! I'm going to try once more and this time get it done. I want to focus on losing weight this month for sure, and sticking with my gluten free diet. Reading Donna Gates Body Ecology articles this morning also reminded me just how important it is to get those good flora in abundance in our systems. It's really, really, really important! Fermented foods are the way to go. The long-lived people in the Caucasus mountains relied on fermented foods--yogurt, kefir, fermented wines and vegetables, fermented grains--and they lived healthy, robust lives. Those good bacteria cannot be neglected! PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Brigite . . . The difference between the various probiotics are the types of live (yes, live) organisms in them . . . Acidopholis doesn't contain neary as many as Primal Defense . . . The only kind of acidopholis you should take is the type that's found in the refrigerated section of the store . . . That's expensive too - not as much as Primal Defense though. One thing you can do is to make your own protiotics . .. Homemade sauerkraut is outstanding! . . . In "Patient Heal Yourself", Dr. Rubin recommended two tablespoons three times a day . . . You can also get a starter and make your own yogurt. I haven't tried it, but you can also make Keflir. . . Dr. Rubin recommends eating naturally fermented vegetables . . . You might find that making your own is the cheapest way to go. I posted a recipe for sauerkraut, but the computer with the recipe on it is down right now . . . Maybe Patty or Kathy saved a copy of the recipe. I think it tastes wonderful . .. you can cook, but it's best eaten raw. Grapefruit seed extract may help you with the tooth infection. It's pretty cheap . . . the liquid tastes awful, but you'd know it's going to the source! Hugs, Rogene See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 I looked this recipe up on the net and found this one, that appears the same, but it calls for 1 teaspoon of caraway seeds. I think the one posted calls for 1 Tablespoon. Rogene, when you make it, how much do you use? Patty http://www.rwood.com/Recipes/Ruby_Sauerkraut_with_Caraway.htm Ruby Sauerkraut with Caraway Accompanying article: Fermented Foods Strengthen Immune System Makes approximately 3 ½ cups Raw sauerkraut is a living cultured food that is high in lactic acid. Tangy and delicious, it strengthens your immune system and has other remarkable healing properties. Refrigerated kraut holds well for months and gets sassier as it ages. I vary the seasonings in this easy kraut recipe from batch to batch. My favorite seasonings include cumin, dill, seaweed, garlic, ginger, juniper and chili. This recipe takes its color from the beet, but purple cabbage will yield a similar ruby color. For pale-colored sauerkraut, omit the beet and use green cabbage. Three things that prevent spoilage are salt, an anaerobic (air-free) environment and lactic acid fermentation. Salt is a natural preservative. Secondly, the weight you’ll apply on top keeps the cabbage submerged under the brine and, thus, in an anaerobic (air-free) environment. Lastly, as the cabbage ferments, lactic acid develops which creates an undesirable environment for potential microbial contaminants. 1 large head organic cabbage1 medium beet2 minced garlic cloves1 teaspoon caraway seeds1 tablespoon sea salt Remove any coarse or dry outer cabbage leaves. Cut the cabbage lengthwise into quarters. Grate the cabbage, core and all, and beet on ¼-inch holes of a hand grater or in a food processor using the fine grater. Mix the vegetables with the garlic, caraway seeds and salt. Firmly pack into a wide-mouth quart jar, filling it almost to the brim. Set the jar on a plate to collect any potential overflow. To apply pressure to the top of the vegetable shreds, use a weight that’s small enough to nest inside of the wide-mouth jar. This weight may be a clean rock or a water-filled glass bottle or a zip-lock baggie. Rest the weight atop the grated cabbage. Brine will form and rise to the surface within 24 hours. (If brine fails to rise and/or remain at the top, dissolve ¼ teaspoon salt in ½ cup water and pour it on top of the cabbage.) The kraut will be ready in 5 to 7 days, or when it has a pleasant and tangy fermented flavor and the cabbage shreds are translucent rather than opaque. (To heighten the sour flavor, ferment it for 10 days.) Remove the weight. Remove and discard any bubbly foam or discolored kraut from the top of the jar. Wash and tightly cover the jar. The kraut will keep refrigerated for 6 months. Serve as a condiment, allowing 1 -2 tablespoons per person. You can also add kraut to salads, sandwiches or use it as a flavoring agent in dressings and soups. May you be well nourished, WoodTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: The sauerkraut recipe is in our Recipes section....go to database, and the first folder is recipes. It's there...ruby Sauerkraut. I bet it is good....I haven't had time to make it yet, though I bought the ingredients to do so, several times! I'm going to try once more and this time get it done. I want to focus on losing weight this month for sure, and sticking with my gluten free diet. Reading Donna Gates Body Ecology articles this morning also reminded me just how important it is to get those good flora in abundance in our systems. It's really, really, really important! Fermented foods are the way to go. The long-lived people in the Caucasus mountains relied on fermented foods--yogurt, kefir, fermented wines and vegetables, fermented grains--and they lived healthy, robust lives. Those good bacteria cannot be neglected! PattyRogene S <saxony01 > wrote: Brigite . . . The difference between the various probiotics are the types of live (yes, live) organisms in them . . . Acidopholis doesn't contain neary as many as Primal Defense . . . The only kind of acidopholis you should take is the type that's found in the refrigerated section of the store . . . That's expensive too - not as much as Primal Defense though. One thing you can do is to make your own protiotics . .. Homemade sauerkraut is outstanding! . . . In "Patient Heal Yourself", Dr. Rubin recommended two tablespoons three times a day . . . You can also get a starter and make your own yogurt. I haven't tried it, but you can also make Keflir. . . Dr. Rubin recommends eating naturally fermented vegetables . . . You might find that making your own is the cheapest way to go. I posted a recipe for sauerkraut, but the computer with the recipe on it is down right now . . . Maybe Patty or Kathy saved a copy of the recipe. I think it tastes wonderful . .. you can cook, but it's best eaten raw. Grapefruit seed extract may help you with the tooth infection. It's pretty cheap . . . the liquid tastes awful, but you'd know it's going to the source! Hugs, Rogene See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Here is another article I wanted to share on KEFIR. Anita has also told me that she thinks kefir has made a HUGE difference in her health. It's simple to make! http://www.rwood.com/Articles/Kefir.htm Kefir Kefir—Homemade Kefir is a delicious fermented milk beverage that you can easily make at home. More healthful than yogurt, kefir builds immunity and imparts a sense of well being. Plus, here’s information about two similar cultured milk beverages, fil mjolk and viili. A delicious and fuss-free way to build immunity, inhibit cancer, soothe the nervous system, and support energy is with a daily glass of kefir. You can purchase this fermented milk beverage ready-to-drink or you can culture it at home. Kefir is as easy to make as a cup of tea. It’s creamy, tangy and imparts a “feel good” sensation. Unlike health insurance, kefir supports prevention. Though less well known and researched, fil mjolk or viili may do the same. But let’s first look at kefir. This lightly effervescent treat originated in the Caucasus Mountains, where it’s still widely consumed and accredited as a longevity aid. You can purchase kefir ready to drink from natural food stores. Or, for a superior culture, you can buy traditional starter grains and ferment your own. Making your own kefir is satisfying and economical and guarantees you the most healthful drink possible. And you can make it from any milk, be it low or full fat, raw or pasteurized, dry or wet, cow or goat. Soymilk kefir works ok, while kefir made from almond or coconut milk is a sensory treat. Kefir is in a different class of ferments than live-cultured yogurt. When made from a grain starter, kefir literally colonizes your gut, whereas yogurt’s bacteria are transient. Kefir contains major strains of friendly bacteria and beneficial yeasts not commonly found in yogurt. Its dynamic mixture of various organisms is self-sustaining from generation to generation, while yogurt weakens with each batch you make. Traditional kefir works as a remedy for anyone with digestive disorders. It’s an excellent source of protein, calcium, magnesium, biotin and vitamins B1, B12 and K. It’s also an abundant source of tryptophan, the “relaxant” amino acid. For the fun of it, you may also wish to try the less well known cultured milk beverages—fil mjolk (also known as piima) and viili. Like kefir, these Scandinavian cultures originated in cold climes and ferment at ambient room temperature. Fil mjolk is as hardy and versatile as kefir but, unlike traditional kefir, it doesn’t need straining. I appreciate its one-step process, its tart taste and that when made with whipping cream or half ‘n half it yields a wondrous “crème fraiche”. I made viili a few times but then let the culture slip into oblivion. Although its flavor was pleasurable, I didn’t take to its texture which can be imagined from the following story. A friend poured a cup of viili and unintentionally filled it a drop over the brim. The ringing phone distracted him and, upon return, he found an empty cup in a thick puddle of viili. The overfull drop had oozed down the cup’s side and, like a slinky, had emptied it. Kefir is my passion. Because traditional kefir grains multiply, I’ve enjoyed sharing the starter with many friends. I make a batch once a week from goat’s milk and daily enjoy a glass—sometimes two. I also use kefir (or fil mjolk) as a buttermilk substitute in baked goods or, I further separate out their whey to make a soft cheese. Making your own kefir is so easy, here are instructions a 5-year old could follow. Purchase a plain, unflavored kefir beverage that contains living cultures. Fill a jar two-thirds full of goat’s or cow’s milk. Top off the jar with the prepared liquid kefir or add the starter packet contents, stir once and loosely cover. Let it stand out on your counter for 24 to 48 hours and occasionally give it a stir. After a day its flavor will be mildly tart. If you let it ferment longer, the kefir coagulates and becomes bubbly and more tart. Drink it at the flavor stage you enjoy and refrigerate the rest. It’s that easy. If you’re new to culturing milk, making your first batch may take a leap of faith. But, you can do it. Just consider the fermented foods that you may already enjoy—sourdough bread, chocolate, beer, coffee, tea, dill pickles and pepperoni. Give home culturing a try. And here’s your safety net: culturing makes a food taste better. Should a fermented food smell or taste bad—it’s probably bad—so toss it. Unfortunately, both store-bought kefir beverages and the dried kefir starter packets are manipulated. They lack the kefir species that provides the matrix for the grains to build upon, making you dependent upon repeat purchases. Authentic kefir contains the complete range of beneficial flora that only self-sustaining ferments offer. It's available from G.E.M. Cultures, 30301 Sherwood Road, Fort Bragg, CA 95437. The dried, not self-perpetuating kefir starter packets are available on line from various sources including www.lifeway.net. Both sources provide detailed directions for use, including how to make dairy-free beverages. Or, find a kefir aficionados willing to share grains by visiting the on-line kefir chat group at Kefir_making. For a comprehensive kefir web page visit http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html, or simply enter “dom kefir” in your search engine. For accompanying recipes see Cornbread in a Skillet, Home Brewed Cider and Homemade Kefir. May you be well nourished, Wood How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. 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