Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 It's my understanding that it's too young-Our doctors didn't want to diagnose my son with aspergers until puberty- a key component I was told is OCD and prior to puberty the OCD like behaviors can be outgrown.He was diagnosed with HFA. He has no speech delays? I wonder- is his speech advanced- precocious? I would think its too young to determine articulation issues- and pragmatics.What did he do that got him a label that young? Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Asperger syndrome does not have to include OCD, your doctor was wrong.It is not too young to determine some pragmatic and articulation issues, though some more subtle deficits certainly might not yet be obvious.To the OP, my son was diagnosed at 3 1/2. It is a little earlier than many doctors feel comfortable, but it was appropriate. It sounds like it could be possible for your son, too, but I do know some doctors like to use the more broad ASD label until a little more is known. Not much would be different if you called it Asperger Syndrome, though, would it? Just proceed with intervention that you can have. A key area for you to focus on is developing social interaction skills. You can do that by modeling even at that age.Sent from my iPad It's my understanding that it's too young-Our doctors didn't want to diagnose my son with aspergers until puberty- a key component I was told is OCD and prior to puberty the OCD like behaviors can be outgrown.He was diagnosed with HFA. He has no speech delays? I wonder- is his speech advanced- precocious? I would think its too young to determine articulation issues- and pragmatics.What did he do that got him a label that young? Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome.Sent from my iPad I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 ;)Sent from my iPhone Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome.Sent from my iPad I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 To say a doctor is wrong is extreme- like I said- there needs to be more uniformity in how they interpret symptoms and label. My son started with global developmental delay with severe sensory issues.Then he was labeled pdd-nos.Next HFA.Next verbal autisticNext autism. All by itself.Then HFA-and at 12- they're looking to call him an aspie-With no OCD .Sent from my iPhone ;)Sent from my iPhone Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome.Sent from my iPad I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 It is NOT in the criteria for Asperger syndrome that it has to include OCD. Does OCD often co-occur with Asperger Syndrome? Maybe. But they are separate diagnoses, and so I maintain that it is wrong to say that Asperger Syndrome can't be diagnosed before puberty because it includes OCD, and that won't always be apparent until puberty. we often consider any absolute to be extreme in our culture, I know, so it feels extreme to say the doctor is wrong. I am not saying the doctor is wrong about everything, or that the doctor is even wrong about that child's diagnosis, or that the doctor's opinion is wrong. However, if the doctor in fact really meant you have to have OCD to have Asperger Syndrome, that really can't be called anything but wrong. Perhaps he meant that in his experience, he seldom sees Asperger Syndrome without OCD, and in this case he didn't want to diagnose before puberty. In that case, it is his medical decision making right to claim that. But the DSM-IV does not say that Asperger Syndrome has to include OSent from my iPad To say a doctor is wrong is extreme- like I said- there needs to be more uniformity in how they interpret symptoms and label. My son started with global developmental delay with severe sensory issues.Then he was labeled pdd-nos.Next HFA.Next verbal autisticNext autism. All by itself.Then HFA-and at 12- they're looking to call him an aspie-With no OCD .Sent from my iPhone ;)Sent from my iPhone Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome.Sent from my iPad I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 OCD and Autism are mutually exclusive diagnoses so with the current diagnostic manual, they can not be diagnosed together.  -- na LaRossa, M.S. NYS Certified School PsychologistDoctoral Candidate, School-Community Psychology ProgramImportant: This e-mail is meant only for the intended recipient. It may contain confidential information which is legally or otherwise protected by law. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, you are strictly prohibited from reviewing, using, disseminating, distributing or copying this e-mail. Please notify me immediately of the error by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Good grief that is many dx! . Drs are still trying to figure autism out!Sent from my iPhone To say a doctor is wrong is extreme- like I said- there needs to be more uniformity in how they interpret symptoms and label. My son started with global developmental delay with severe sensory issues.Then he was labeled pdd-nos.Next HFA.Next verbal autisticNext autism. All by itself.Then HFA-and at 12- they're looking to call him an aspie-With no OCD .Sent from my iPhone ;)Sent from my iPhone Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome.Sent from my iPad I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 We went through a similar laundry list, but ours looked like this:ODDAD/HDSenory DDAutism NOSAsperger's Syndrome/ AD/HDAnd that's only the main line dx......(primary)He has a expressive/receptive speech delayFine motor delayetc etc etc.... To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Cc: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:59 PM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Good grief that is many dx! . Drs are still trying to figure autism out!Sent from my iPhone To say a doctor is wrong is extreme- like I said- there needs to be more uniformity in how they interpret symptoms and label. My son started with global developmental delay with severe sensory issues.Then he was labeled pdd-nos.Next HFA.Next verbal autisticNext autism. All by itself.Then HFA-and at 12- they're looking to call him an aspie-With no OCD .Sent from my iPhone ;)Sent from my iPhone Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome.Sent from my iPad I am sorry. I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays. Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. ;)Sent from my iPhone Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age-His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh.His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone.It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. LolSent from my iPhone I have heard both situations. Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will. Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty. Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier. Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine.You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services. ;(Sent from my iPhone Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 There is nothing extreme about saying a doctor is wrong about something. Most of them are wrong regularly. Many of them are quite happy to admit that - as long as it isn't a lawyer questioning them. When you consider that so much is unknown about ASD, how could a doctor not be wrong fairly regularly?  To say a doctor is wrong is extreme- like I said- there needs to be more uniformity in how they interpret symptoms and label. My son started with global developmental delay with severe sensory issues. Then he was labeled pdd-nos. Next HFA. Next verbal autistic Next autism. All by itself. Then HFA -and at 12- they're looking to call him an aspie- With no OCD . Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Lori Yurtin wrote:  Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:33 PM, wrote:  Right--articulation and pragmatics don't count when you consider typically developing language skills as a criteria for Asperger Syndrome. Sent from my iPad On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Lori Yurtin wrote:  I am sorry.  I meant I have seen kids with clear Lang delays.  Articulation and pragmatic issues are somewhat common with aspies. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Jane wrote:  Lori- My son is one of those that may get an aspergers label- that had language issues. His vocabulary was extra ordinarily above and beyond his age- His voice monotone- he taught himself expressions by prating in a mirror with songs. He didn't naturally laugh. His articulation was a mess- he has low tone in his mouth- we have a family history of articulation delays with boys. Our doctor believes- his articulation issues are genetic and not related to autism- possibly physically with low tone. It was his use of language- the vocabulary and the tone- that our doctor hears aspergers- What always amazes me is that they use the puzzle peices for symbol of autism- should be used to represent the millions of way our doctors interpret the symptoms. Lol Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Lori Yurtin wrote:  I have heard both situations.  Some Drs won't dx Aspergers until age 4-5 and others will.  Heck I have heard of kids getting Aspergers with a severe Lang delay which drives me batty.  Most early start programs do use speech as main qualifier.  Bummer as our aspie kids need assistance too even though their Lang is relatively fine. You may have many challenges ahead of you getting services.  ;( Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:15 PM, "mom6388" wrote:  Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5097 - Release Date: 06/27/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 But they are. I have both on my psychology report. Perhaps they shouldn't be, but that doesn't mean they aren't. When my son was young I was told he couldn't have both ADHD and ASD, but that has been his (and my) diagnosis for some time now. Just out of curiosity, why do you say they are mutually exclusive? On 28/06/2012 10:49 AM, na LaRossa wrote:  OCD and Autism are mutually exclusive diagnoses so with the current diagnostic manual, they can not be diagnosed together. � -- na LaRossa, M.S. NYS Certified School Psychologist Doctoral Candidate, School-Community Psychology Program Important:� This e-mail is meant only for the intended recipient.� It may contain confidential information which is legally or otherwise protected by law.� If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, you are strictly prohibited from reviewing, using, disseminating, distributing or copying this e-mail.� Please notify me immediately of the error by return e-mail and delete this message from your system.� Thank you for your cooperation. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5097 - Release Date: 06/27/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I too have been told by my son's shrink that ASD and ADHD are not dx that occur together...and, yet, I know several who have been dx with both.Again, it comes down this stuff is so dang subjective!Lori OCD and Autism are mutually exclusive diagnoses so with the current diagnostic manual, they can not be diagnosed together. � -- na LaRossa, M.S. NYS Certified School Psychologist Doctoral Candidate, School-Community Psychology Program Important:� This e-mail is meant only for the intended recipient.� It may contain confidential information which is legally or otherwise protected by law.� If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, you are strictly prohibited from reviewing, using, disseminating, distributing or copying this e-mail.� Please notify me immediately of the error by return e-mail and delete this message from your system.� Thank you for your cooperation. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5097 - Release Date: 06/27/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 We had Classic Autism at 20 months....PDD-NOS at 2 yrs 9 months...PDD-NOS and Dyspraxia at 3 1/2 years old...PDD-NOS/Dyspraxia/Mild CP at 6 years old. What is next? LOL!Lori Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! = = = = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Omg I live what you just described- Sent from my iPhone We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Children with Asperger's are very quirky....I would say it sounds a bit OCD-ish about the parking spots, dinner spots, etc, but she may outgrow some of that as she gets a bit older....hang in there. I think you'll know when her quirkiness interferes with her life and obstructs her potential! To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 She sounds a lot like our daughter (age 8 with Aspergers) down to the monotone voice and the " I MUST control the world " behaviors. OCD behaviors are the way my daughter deals with anxiety (which can go hand in hand with Aspergers). My daughter is on anti-anxiety meds and getting therapy to help teach herself calming methods. This has helped so much as now she has started making friends and can do self calming stuff in the classroom. It also saves on clothes because she used to chew on them or wear holes rubbing her sleeves. We're working on trying to eleminate the remaining bad habits but sometimes you get rid of one and another shows up! Children with Asperger's are very quirky....I would say it sounds a bit OCD-ish about the parking spots, dinner spots, etc, but she may outgrow some of that as she gets a bit older....hang in there. I think you'll know when her quirkiness interferes with her life and obstructs her potential! ___________________________________ To: " autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. ___________________________________ To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has " you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Haha! Total OCD! . I tried to keep things like that from happening by always going different directions in the car, parking in different places, etc etc. But there are still some things my son is very rigid about. 1/2 the time I don't even know he already had a picture in his head of the way it was @suppose" to go!Sent from my iPhone Omg I live what you just described- Sent from my iPhone We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Ha-Ha Lori, Yes I have done the same thing too, going in different directions ends up in an epic fail! I will hear no no no turn here go left there go right there...... I am originally from Chicago and it is easy to get around up there. I now live in a small town somewhere close to the gates of hell. Anyways, I would get so lost if I tried too many different ways on these back roads. Is you son rigid about certain clothing on certain days and extra classes or activities on certain days? I know I am screwed because next week they don't have gymnastics, I have been telling her no gymnastics since last week, I put it in her schedule book but she says we have to go at 6:30... Jane: do you ever change things up and if so how does it turn out? : What age do you think they out grow this? I do see where it does currently interfere with some of her activities and thinking process. : Thanks. I know our daughter has anxiety and lately it has shown up more often. She spins, rocks and stands on her head more often. As for her making friends she is 4.5 but she will talk to other kids and they are not very nice, sort of clicky. The other day I spied on her in the church nursery and she wanted to play with the other kids but the other kids didn’t want a part of it. I felt sad for her. BUT I also wondered if they dissed her because they don’t really know her? BTW she would never go in the nursery and now she has been asking to go there. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Haha! Total OCD! . I tried to keep things like that from happening by always going different directions in the car, parking in different places, etc etc. But there are still some things my son is very rigid about. 1/2 the time I don't even know he already had a picture in his head of the way it was @suppose" to go!Sent from my iPhone Omg I live what you just described- Sent from my iPhone We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Hi, My son also had this "directional spidey sense" (what I call it) and I can only say within the last year, year and a half has he gotten better. We have a trailor on a campground about 90 mins from our house. His grandparents go one way and Dad and I go another. It used to drive him NUTS!! But now it's not an issue. Usually he'll just ask me if we are going a different way. He still gets anxious, but has the vocabulary or the ability to ask anxiety lowering questions. For example we live not far from the Philly airport and I-95 can be murder....I can exit the highway/ freeway and take back roads and pick back up the highway again in another area to get around traffic and he'll just say, "Hey Mom, why are you getting off here? (I'll explain) How long does this way take? Are we going to make it on time?" etc. Once I've answered all his immediate questions he'll usually sit back and relax and know that we are going to get there ok. I think b/c we live in a city-ish area and b/c there are many ways to get to the same place helps!! I think they get this maze programmed into their heads and then it's so hard to break away from whatever route is normal for them. Same thing with food....try getting them to eat it a different way, etc......they are stuck in the pattern. Good luck! I know this is just another layer of difficulty for you, but it gets better. Try to stay calm and talk talk talk about it. When they can communicate and you can communicate it seems to lower at least my son's anxiety about a new path or a new way.... To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Ha-Ha Lori, Yes I have done the same thing too, going in different directions ends up in an epic fail! I will hear no no no turn here go left there go right there...... I am originally from Chicago and it is easy to get around up there. I now live in a small town somewhere close to the gates of hell. Anyways, I would get so lost if I tried too many different ways on these back roads. Is you son rigid about certain clothing on certain days and extra classes or activities on certain days? I know I am screwed because next week they don't have gymnastics, I have been telling her no gymnastics since last week, I put it in her schedule book but she says we have to go at 6:30... Jane: do you ever change things up and if so how does it turn out? : What age do you think they out grow this? I do see where it does currently interfere with some of her activities and thinking process. : Thanks. I know our daughter has anxiety and lately it has shown up more often. She spins, rocks and stands on her head more often. As for her making friends she is 4.5 but she will talk to other kids and they are not very nice, sort of clicky. The other day I spied on her in the church nursery and she wanted to play with the other kids but the other kids didn’t want a part of it. I felt sad for her. BUT I also wondered if they dissed her because they don’t really know her? BTW she would never go in the nursery and now she has been asking to go there. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Haha! Total OCD! . I tried to keep things like that from happening by always going different directions in the car, parking in different places, etc etc. But there are still some things my son is very rigid about. 1/2 the time I don't even know he already had a picture in his head of the way it was @suppose" to go!Sent from my iPhone Omg I live what you just described- Sent from my iPhone We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 And I forgot to mention my son is almost 10, so maybe around 8 he started to calm down and communicate his anxiety better about directions/ driving issues. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:06 PM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Hi, My son also had this "directional spidey sense" (what I call it) and I can only say within the last year, year and a half has he gotten better. We have a trailor on a campground about 90 mins from our house. His grandparents go one way and Dad and I go another. It used to drive him NUTS!! But now it's not an issue. Usually he'll just ask me if we are going a different way. He still gets anxious, but has the vocabulary or the ability to ask anxiety lowering questions. For example we live not far from the Philly airport and I-95 can be murder....I can exit the highway/ freeway and take back roads and pick back up the highway again in another area to get around traffic and he'll just say, "Hey Mom, why are you getting off here? (I'll explain) How long does this way take? Are we going to make it on time?" etc. Once I've answered all his immediate questions he'll usually sit back and relax and know that we are going to get there ok. I think b/c we live in a city-ish area and b/c there are many ways to get to the same place helps!! I think they get this maze programmed into their heads and then it's so hard to break away from whatever route is normal for them. Same thing with food....try getting them to eat it a different way, etc......they are stuck in the pattern. Good luck! I know this is just another layer of difficulty for you, but it gets better. Try to stay calm and talk talk talk about it. When they can communicate and you can communicate it seems to lower at least my son's anxiety about a new path or a new way.... To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Ha-Ha Lori, Yes I have done the same thing too, going in different directions ends up in an epic fail! I will hear no no no turn here go left there go right there...... I am originally from Chicago and it is easy to get around up there. I now live in a small town somewhere close to the gates of hell. Anyways, I would get so lost if I tried too many different ways on these back roads. Is you son rigid about certain clothing on certain days and extra classes or activities on certain days? I know I am screwed because next week they don't have gymnastics, I have been telling her no gymnastics since last week, I put it in her schedule book but she says we have to go at 6:30... Jane: do you ever change things up and if so how does it turn out? : What age do you think they out grow this? I do see where it does currently interfere with some of her activities and thinking process. : Thanks. I know our daughter has anxiety and lately it has shown up more often. She spins, rocks and stands on her head more often. As for her making friends she is 4.5 but she will talk to other kids and they are not very nice, sort of clicky. The other day I spied on her in the church nursery and she wanted to play with the other kids but the other kids didn’t want a part of it. I felt sad for her. BUT I also wondered if they dissed her because they don’t really know her? BTW she would never go in the nursery and now she has been asking to go there. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: aspergers at 2? Haha! Total OCD! . I tried to keep things like that from happening by always going different directions in the car, parking in different places, etc etc. But there are still some things my son is very rigid about. 1/2 the time I don't even know he already had a picture in his head of the way it was @suppose" to go!Sent from my iPhone Omg I live what you just described- Sent from my iPhone We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Hi;-)No, he is fine with clothes on any day and with activities. But, I do have a visual schedule on the frig and add/delete things so he knows what is coming up. WHen I have made the mistake of not including something, oh, yes, he can have a HUGE meltdown! But, so long as I keep communicating, usually it turns out fine. But, he can get confused sometimes and that also causes huge meltdowns! Lori We had early intervention come out when our daughter was almost two and a half. After spending several hours that first day the lady asked our permission to have others out to observe. Within a couple of weeks several different people came out they told us to get referred to Children’s Hospital. After a year of many L-O-N-GGGG appointments with several autism specialists and tons of testing, our daughter was formally dx’ed with Asperger’s at the age of three and a half. As for our daughter’s speech, she did not speak until she was almost two and a half; when she started speaking she was very articulate with a flat and monotone voice. Someone others mentioned OCD. I am not familiar with OCD. Our friends call my husband and I, OCD we laugh but we really don’t know what OCD is…. I think we just like things neat and tidy. We don’t get bent out of shape if things are out of order, we may let the house go for a day or so. Are the example below OCD or just part of aspergers? After church we go to the same restaurant and she is not happy if someone is in her seat. I tell her she needs to share her seat and she still pitches a fit. Now we just go earlier so we can get “her†seat. She wants the same thing, same order, same everything. When we go to the grocery she is upset when someone parks in “our†spot. The other day I needed diapers so I took her with and cut between two registers instead of walking around the entire store. She got bent out of shape because we are supposed to go through the produce section first and she was bent because someone was parked in our spot. At home she needs things need to be placed in the same spot? She has to have her room orderly however she is fine with making and leaving a huge mess in the playroom. Could that be because her dad and I are neat freaks we do like everything orderly I think we are like that because we both are prior military? We have never pushed her to keep anything neat and orderly. We just ask her to get the toys on the shelf and off the floor at the end of the day. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: aspergers at 2? Hello, My child is 2.5 and on the spectrum. He has an ASD diagnosis, but the doctor said this is too young to call Aspergers. He has no language delay and is at age level for vocabulary although still has "you and I' pronoun reversal. He went through an echoing phase which has passed and some responses are scripted (but used in appropriate situations). He does not qualify for Early Start programs because they say he is on target for speech. Has anyone actually gotten a label for Aspergers this young, or is this a familiar situation for a lot of you? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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