NAET

[Guest guest]

I've done BioSet treatments with my sons (now 6), not all that

they " should " have though because it just got too expensive and

frankly, much as I wanted to believe it worked, I didn't see a whole

lot happening. If I had an unlimited supply of cash, I would have

continued since it's so non-invasive and simple.

We did have one real transformation from the 10 or so treatment

sessions we did (each session can treat from 1 to 6 or so

intolerances). After being treated for neurotransmitters one of my

boys came home and started to draw madly. He never liked drawing so

much before that - it was like he had all these drawings built up

inside him waiting to get out and now the floodgates were open. He

hardly stopped for 3 or 4 days, then he was done with the madness.

Now, he loves to draw and draws often (but not like a crazed

person). I suppose it was all worth it for that alone.

> Could we do an informal poll? How many parents have tried NAET.

About 1/2 way done with the material I pulled on it, but I'm more

curious about parent/child experiences with this treatment. I

haven't come across anything negative regarding it, which makes me

nervous. Even enzymes, albeit falsely accused, got a bad rap from

some. The enzymes are doing wonders for food intolerances, but can't

quite seem to get that gut healed to the degree casein and gluten

aren't an issue. I've heard about intolerances developing to the

degree that the very things that are supposed to be healing the gut,

the body is actually fighting with. Anyone willing to share, I'd be

grateful. Plus, what do you guys think about the Walsh

metallothionein theory? It would seem the protocol Dr. Megson has us

on fairly closely mimics what Walsh suggests parents do to increase

metallothionein. I was happy that these individuals recognize the

importance of enzymes. In fact it is a standard part of their

protocol. Who would have thought we'd ever find actual doctors who

use enzymes? The nutritionist at Dr. Megson's office said he'd

actually just met with Devin the week prior to our appt., did I

mention that before? Anyway, that was a good sign for us. Thanks to

anyone that can send any NAET or metallothionein opinions our way.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We did the computer test and they were " allergic " to most of the things

tested!!! No wonder they can not eat much of anything without a reaction.

I had myself tested, and I had only a few things " in the red " --the

practitioner

said my results looked more typical of most people.

NAET

>

>

> > Could we do an informal poll? How many parents have tried NAET. About

1/2

> way done with the material I pulled on it, but I'm more curious about

> parent/child experiences with this treatment. I haven't come across

anything

> negative regarding it, which makes me nervous. Even enzymes, albeit

falsely

> accused, got a bad rap from some. The enzymes are doing wonders for food

> intolerances, but can't quite seem to get that gut healed to the degree

> casein and gluten aren't an issue. I've heard about intolerances

developing

> to the degree that the very things that are supposed to be healing the

gut,

> the body is actually fighting with. Anyone willing to share, I'd be

> grateful. Plus, what do you guys think about the Walsh metallothionein

> theory? It would seem the protocol Dr. Megson has us on fairly closely

> mimics what Walsh suggests parents do to increase metallothionein. I was

> happy that these individuals recognize the importance of enzymes. In

fact it

> is a standard part of their protocol. Who would have thought we'd ever

find

> actual doctors who use enzymes? The nutritionist at Dr. Megson's office

said

> he'd actually just met with Devin the week prior to our appt., did I

mention

> that before? Anyway, that was a good sign for us. Thanks to anyone that

can

> send any NAET or metallothionein opinions our way.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Other than one other Mom who said it took 4 tries per allergen,

you're the only one with any positive experience. Did you re-do the same six

every time, so it took 10 times to clear that original 6? Or did you rotate onto

new things each time? Sorry to be so nosey.

Re: NAET

I've done BioSet treatments with my sons (now 6), not all that

they " should " have though because it just got too expensive and

frankly, much as I wanted to believe it worked, I didn't see a whole

lot happening. If I had an unlimited supply of cash, I would have

continued since it's so non-invasive and simple.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this. We too have gone through our savings more times than

I can count now. From what I've read it is supposed to take one treatment only

for each individual allergen. So, I'll find who is practicing, and " interview "

them prior to my trying it. If I have success, and it is actually non-invasive,

I'll have ph try it. Your post was excellent though. Like I said, this stuff

is better info. than anything I've read in any book. You know what's funny

though, and I'll have to contact my e-mail server about it, I got responses to

my e-mail, but didn't see the actual e-mail I sent about this. Don't want to

read my post, but I'm wondering if I'm losing other peoples messages too. Anyone

else had this problem?

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[Guest guest]

I can't remember who posted yesterday but I think she (he?) made a great

point. Perhaps NAET or BIOSET won't help with goals for eliminating enzymes

and/or

special diets. But it may help with other types of reactions a person has.

what is interesting is that the person who commented stated that these

therapies will help with allergic responses. The medical community would not

even

acknowledge the responses that NAET and BIOSET help with as allergic. For the

medical community to acknowledge allergy there has to be an Ig response..

Robin

[Guest guest]

Where can you find this book " The food allergy cure "

Tia

seema

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/23/03 2:22:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, simagnd@...

writes:

> Where can you find this book " The food allergy cure "

Any bookstore or amazon.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/23/03 8:31:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

amattson@... writes:

> My grammatical error. Sorry about that.

I apologize if it seemed like I was attacking. Not my intention at all. In

fact, my opinion, though poorly expressed, is that although the MD community

doesn't refer to these intolerances as allergies unless they are Ig reactive,

they are definitely allergies.

Good luck making your decision on what to do.

Robin

[Guest guest]

My grammatical error. Sorry about that. Allergic and Allergens are not what some

of us are dealing with. Rather they are " intolerances " . Should have used that

word instead. I get caught up and make mistakes like that occasionally. I

shouldn't assume everyone is riding my same brain wave. Apologies again.

Re: Re: NAET

I can't remember who posted yesterday but I think she (he?) made a great

point. Perhaps NAET or BIOSET won't help with goals for eliminating enzymes

and/or

special diets. But it may help with other types of reactions a person has.

what is interesting is that the person who commented stated that these

therapies will help with allergic responses. The medical community would not

even

acknowledge the responses that NAET and BIOSET help with as allergic. For the

medical community to acknowledge allergy there has to be an Ig response..

Robin

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 24/12/2003 05:55:13 GMT Standard Time, JCKRPF@...

writes:

>

> In a message dated 12/23/03 2:22:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> simagnd@...

> writes:

>

> > Where can you find this book " The food allergy cure "

>

> Any bookstore or amazon.com

>

>

Thanks!

seema

[Guest guest]

Thank you.

Re: Re: NAET

In a message dated 12/23/03 8:31:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

amattson@... writes:

> My grammatical error. Sorry about that.

I apologize if it seemed like I was attacking. Not my intention at all. In

fact, my opinion, though poorly expressed, is that although the MD community

doesn't refer to these intolerances as allergies unless they are Ig reactive,

they are definitely allergies.

Good luck making your decision on what to do.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Dear Carie,

I did NAET for 2 1/2 years and it was the worst thing I could have done. It

is a technique that definitely affects the body- but not always in a

controlled or positive way.

It has permanently screwed up my meridians to the point where I am about to

lose my kidney. About 9 months into treatments I had blood in my urine that

my urologist could find no reason for. This was my first warning that my

kidney system was being damaged, but no one knew enough to tell me that.

Then a year ago (two years after the blood) I had to undergo major surgery

to save my kidney. Now, a year later I am again about to lose it. All three

of these incidents are physiologically UNRELATED!!!! except that it is the

entire meridian that has been damaged. I am now so sick that I cannot have

surgery (can't tolerate anesthetics) so I have no choice but to lose the

kidney now. My urologist just shakes his head because he's never seen

anything like it.

My NAET practitioner was trained to level 2 with Namburipad (the founder)

and has been treating hundreds of people for years. Yet when I got worse and

worse and she told me my problem was all I in my head!!! NAET made me sicker

and sicker in several other ways and I consulted with Namburipad directly

several times and did what she suggested, but nothing helped. She and my

practitioner really had no ideas what was wrong, bit it was definitely NAET

that was doing it to me.

I've gone into these details to try to illustrate how very powerfully this

technique can affect our bodies. (not to mention our pocketbook!!)

I know some folks who feel they have benefitted from NAET but I think it is

very risky. They don't know what meridian damage might have been done that

won't show up for a few more years. I put my son through it for a dairy

allergy and there was absolutely no change in him. I regret doing that and

worry what damage it did to him. It is a terrible thing to screw around with

the meridians of a youngster, in my opinion.

Take care,

Helena

[Guest guest]

Hi Helena,

Thank you for responding to me and I am so sorry that your health has

suffered. THank you for sharing your story with me and I will

definitely ask more questions and check on skill certifications. My

son has enough problems that were caused by my decisions and I want

to be very carefull in treating him to undue the damage. I just want

progress if possible and I appreciate the education you gave me. I

will follow up with his NAET practioner. I pray for a recovery of

your health and best of luck. Thank you Helena.

Carie

> Dear Carie,

>

>

> I did NAET for 2 1/2 years and it was the worst thing I could have

done. It

> is a technique that definitely affects the body- but not always in a

> controlled or positive way.

>

> It has permanently screwed up my meridians to the point where I am

about to

> lose my kidney. About 9 months into treatments I had blood in my

urine that

> my urologist could find no reason for. This was my first warning

that my

> kidney system was being damaged, but no one knew enough to tell me

that.

>

> Then a year ago (two years after the blood) I had to undergo major

surgery

> to save my kidney. Now, a year later I am again about to lose it.

All three

> of these incidents are physiologically UNRELATED!!!! except that it

is the

> entire meridian that has been damaged. I am now so sick that I

cannot have

> surgery (can't tolerate anesthetics) so I have no choice but to

lose the

> kidney now. My urologist just shakes his head because he's never

seen

> anything like it.

>

> My NAET practitioner was trained to level 2 with Namburipad (the

founder)

> and has been treating hundreds of people for years. Yet when I got

worse and

> worse and she told me my problem was all I in my head!!! NAET made

me sicker

> and sicker in several other ways and I consulted with Namburipad

directly

> several times and did what she suggested, but nothing helped. She

and my

> practitioner really had no ideas what was wrong, bit it was

definitely NAET

> that was doing it to me.

>

> I've gone into these details to try to illustrate how very

powerfully this

> technique can affect our bodies. (not to mention our pocketbook!!)

>

> I know some folks who feel they have benefitted from NAET but I

think it is

> very risky. They don't know what meridian damage might have been

done that

> won't show up for a few more years. I put my son through it for a

dairy

> allergy and there was absolutely no change in him. I regret doing

that and

> worry what damage it did to him. It is a terrible thing to screw

around with

> the meridians of a youngster, in my opinion.

>

> Take care,

> Helena

[Guest guest]

Liz,

I've had NAET for allergies, and the effect was extremely short lived. Are you using it for allergies or fatigue/pain/emotional issues? I also am taking a homeopathic -- did not know there was one for candida. I've had CFS and fibro for 15 years too and am also now the best ever -- due to detoxing, positive thinking, self-massage, listening to my body, cutting out the supplements and reducing medicine, etc.

Thanks for the suggestions. Mark and Liz Grady <grady@...> wrote:

Dear ,

EFT is a great method to get rid of emotional problems causing energy blockages. I am also half cured by an energetic medicine technique called NAET. The website is www.naet.com You have to be careful with this method though and find a really good practitioner who knows what they are doing. I live in Australia and really none of the ones in Sydney know enough to do it exactly right. We actually got help from a guy who lives 4 hours away to give the practitioner we see some guidance. It is absolutely amazing. Sounds like rubbish when you hear what they do but I am living proof. 15 years of CFS plus fibromyalgia and now I am the best I have been in all that time! Got rid of so much toxic rubbish. Also homeopathics has helped too. The remedy contains the candida albicans strain.

Liz

-----Original Message-----From: hspl28@... [mailto:hspl28@...] Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2004 11:00 PMcandidiasis Subject: Re: Sexual Assault

In a message dated 4/7/2004 4:53:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, kmabbadi@... writes:

Obviously this impacted my health negatively -- the worst of CFS came right back -- but I have recovered now. I think all the liver cleaning I have been doing -- though it provoked diarrhea -- has lightened my load.

,

You might consider reading the book "getting thru to your emotions with EFT" by and Jane Mountrose. It deals with how to release blocked energy and emotions that are caused by something as traumatic as what you went through.

I had a serious car accident three years ago, and would have panic attacks when driving, and using the techniques in this book helped me to get over them. In one session. I think it took 15 minutes. It consists of positive reinforcement phrases, and tapping on pressure points to release the blockage.

This works great in-between liver flushes, and you can use these techniques for all forms of issues that we as humans hold in for years.

Hanida

[Guest guest]

Liz, interesting, thanks. I have homeopathic remedies of the type you describe, but I haven't been using them. One of them -- for MSG -- tastes absolutely horrible, but the main reason I stopped is I lost confidence in that doctor when she made me allergy injections that were way too strong. I should ask my current ND if I should finish them.

All the best, Mark and Liz Grady <grady@...> wrote:

Dear ,

NAET goes much deeper than just treating foods and vitamins. You need to get to the core of the problem and unfortunately as I said, I don’t know many people who have the skill to know how to do it properly. I was just getting treated for basic foods and vitamins. This relief was short lived too. I knew there was something in this NAET so I then went and saw a master of the technique who has studied a lot with the founder of it. He went through and tested me for hundreds of things. When I started getting treated for organs of the body,

glands (adrenal, lymph), plus chemicals and things like that, I really started to make progress. Some of the treatments knocked me for six as my body was detoxing and attempting to heal. The problem with the practitioners is that most have 4 little kits of vials that don’t even scratch the surface of your problem. The guy I saw had a machine that made up vials. He had thousands of them! If you could see the list my friend has from him to treat - things I have never even heard of! The vials in the basic kits only have so many different types of things in them. EG sugar – About 15 sugars

when there are more different types of sugars than this, only so many bacteria strains etc etc. That’s why you really need to ask the practitioner how long they have been doing it, do they have more vials than the basic kits, do they treat the emotional allergies as well which are usually connected to an allergen you are treating.

With the homeopathics, based sort of on a similar component to NAET, I went to a woman who has a CEDs machine. This is similar to a VEGA machine except more advanced apparently. She puts this probe thing on your skin connected to a box which connects to a laptop for each allergen. It then shows you on a graph, whether that part of your body is in balance, eg liver, intestines etc etc. She can test immunisations, bacteria, candida, parasites, food, medications. Then from

that reading, they somehow make up a homeopathic remedy to balance those things. Mine has quite a few things in it, liver, mucous membranes in various parts of the body (Connected to the candida). You can actually treat the candida infection with the homeopathic strain, candida albicans. That is in the remedy too. The remedy honestly looks like a little bottle of water! (I would have thought it a load of rubbish years ago). But I have the proof. My nose has been so clogged up for 15 years. I can now

breathe through it after taking these drops for only a couple of weeks. It is unbelievable. This type of homeopathics differs from the traditional kind. I really think this way is more effective.

Hope this helps.

Liz

-----Original Message-----From: Abbadi [mailto:kmabbadi@...] Sent: Friday, 9 April 2004 1:00 AMcandidiasis Subject: RE: NAET

Liz,

I've had NAET for allergies, and the effect was extremely short lived. Are you using it for allergies or fatigue/pain/emotional issues? I also am taking a homeopathic -- did not know there was one for candida. I've had CFS and fibro for 15 years too and am also now the best ever -- due to detoxing, positive thinking, self-massage, listening to my body, cutting out the supplements and reducing medicine, etc.

Thanks for the suggestions. Mark and Liz Grady <grady@...> wrote:

Dear ,

EFT is a great method to get rid of emotional problems causing energy blockages. I am also half cured by an energetic medicine technique called NAET. The website is www.naet.com You have to be careful with this method though and find a really good practitioner who knows what they are doing. I live in Australia and really none of the ones in Sydney know enough to do it exactly right. We actually got help from a guy who lives 4 hours away to give the

practitioner we see some guidance. It is absolutely amazing. Sounds like rubbish when you hear what they do but I am living proof. 15 years of CFS plus fibromyalgia and now I am the best I have been in all that time! Got rid of so much toxic rubbish. Also homeopathics has helped too. The remedy contains the candida albicans strain.

Liz

-----Original Message-----From: hspl28@... [mailto:hspl28@...] Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2004 11:00 PMcandidiasis Subject: Re: Sexual Assault

In a message dated 4/7/2004 4:53:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, kmabbadi@... writes:

Obviously this impacted my health negatively -- the worst of CFS came right back -- but I have recovered now. I think all the liver cleaning I have been doing -- though it provoked diarrhea -- has lightened my load.

,

You might consider reading the book "getting thru to your emotions with EFT" by and Jane Mountrose. It deals with how to release blocked energy and emotions that are caused by something as traumatic as what you went through.

I had a serious car accident three years ago, and would have panic attacks when driving, and using the techniques in this book helped me to get over them. In one session. I think it took 15 minutes. It consists of positive reinforcement phrases, and tapping on pressure points to release the blockage.

This works great in-between liver flushes, and you can use these techniques for all forms of issues that we as humans hold in for years.

Hanida

[Guest guest]

>>>>>>>>>>>>He was allergic to both, which was making his issue with

mercury and heavy

metals both one of toxicity and of allergy. We eliminated the

allergy. It

seems

that NAET works best in children. In adults, the elimination often

does not

hold. Even so, I plan to do it myself as well as for my NT 2 year

old. If

you look on Amazon, there is a NAET guidebook that provides more

information.>>>>>>>>>>>>

How in the world do they eliminate the mercury and heavy

metals " allergy " ? Did your NAET practioner say anything about body

burden and what becomes of that?

I wish Andy would comment on this part too.

Carie

[Guest guest]

The whole;e NAET thing is very odd sounding. But I know 2 people who have

used it with great success for their kids. BTW, I knew one way before she

used NAET and the other I knew for 2 years before I knew she had used it.

So it isn't as though either was trying to sell me on it. The one told me

that her son never completely " cleared " : on his milk or wheat allergy's, but

now they don't have to go into panic mode if they go to a birthday party and

the child has cake or pizza. It's a much milder reaction.

Valeri

[ ] Re: NAET

>>>>>>>>>>>>He was allergic to both, which was making his issue with

mercury and heavy

metals both one of toxicity and of allergy. We eliminated the

allergy. It

seems

that NAET works best in children. In adults, the elimination often

does not

hold. Even so, I plan to do it myself as well as for my NT 2 year

old. If

you look on Amazon, there is a NAET guidebook that provides more

information.>>>>>>>>>>>>

How in the world do they eliminate the mercury and heavy

metals " allergy " ? Did your NAET practioner say anything about body

burden and what becomes of that?

I wish Andy would comment on this part too.

Carie

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

NJ?

In a message dated 7/1/2004 12:34:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

craigdia@... writes:

Hi, I am looking for a NAET practitioner and homeopath in Bergen

County. Can anyone reccomend either of these?

Thanks,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Bergen County, NJ

Re: [ ] NAET

NJ?

In a message dated 7/1/2004 12:34:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

craigdia@... writes:

Hi, I am looking for a NAET practitioner and homeopath in Bergen

County. Can anyone reccomend either of these?

Thanks,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Listmates,

What are your experiences with NAET? It sounds really " out there " and I am

wondering if there is anyone here who has tried it and found it to be useless?

I've heard " useful " more often on these lists. If you've had good results, can

you recommend a book about it?

Thanks,

Ashi

[Guest guest]

I found it helpful for myself. I saw practitioners in CA and in WA when I lived

in each of those states.

S

<tt>

Listmates,<BR>

<BR>

What are your experiences with NAET?  It sounds really " out there " and I am

wondering if there is anyone here who has tried it and found it to be useless? 

I've heard " useful " more often on these lists.  If you've had good results, can

you recommend a book about it?<BR>

<BR>

Thanks,<BR>

Ashi<BR>

<BR>

[Guest guest]

We tried this and it did not help my son. I think it is like any

therapy...it will help some and not help others. It is non-invasive and if it

does not

work, you are out money but did not harm your child.

[Guest guest]

Kisa,

We've been doing it for several months with excellent results. It

stands for Nambutripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques. Here is the

web site and you can read about it:

www.naet.com

You might also be interested in the book, " Say Goodbye to Allergy

Related Autism " , which is written by Devi Nambutripad.

On May 12, 2005, at 9:53 AM, wrote:

> Anyone know what NAET is and are you using it??? My good friend from

> Germany emailed me and said she has a friend who works with autistic

> children using this method. What is it and what does it do for them?

> Anyone??

>

> TIA,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I meant LISA! :-)

On May 12, 2005, at 10:05 AM, cathylynn2 wrote:

> Kisa,

>

> We've been doing it for several months with excellent results. It

> stands for Nambutripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques. Here is the

> web site and you can read about it:

>

> www.naet.com

>

> You might also be interested in the book, " Say Goodbye to Allergy

> Related Autism " , which is written by Devi Nambutripad.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

We have been doing NAET for almost a year now and it has been a

wonderful experience. My daughter's chemical sensitivity issues have

resolved and she can eat any food now without consequences. A good

practitioner makes a world of difference, so if you decide to do it,

make sure you get a good referral. Have you read the book, written

by the originator of NAET? " Say Goodbye to Allergy Related Autism "

by Devi Nambutripad. It does a good job of explaining the whole

process.

On Sep 9, 2005, at 9:07 AM, smccarty123 wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of this or tried it? www.naet.com I forgot to

> mention this in my last post, but our DAN doc suggested it. She

> has an

> appointment for her own ASD son to try this next week.

>

> Take care,

> and

>