Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Scroll down to Kristoph Vogel http://www.arb.ca.gov:80/research/seminars/seminars.htm I have been communicating with him by email. He has found that particulates from dairy farms cause a much greater degree of inflammation when compared to the particles in indoor air that he has researched so far. The power point is available by clicking on it. He also said that LPS (endotoxin) is very inflammatory. I have suggested that he look into water-damaged homes and buildings. We will see. [] Asthma Research Breaks the Mold Asthma Research Breaks the Mold by admin on December 14, 2010 http://worldasthmafoundation.org/asthma-research-breaks-the-mold.htm Study finds cause of allergic reaction could be growing in your lungs Scientists investigating the allergic reactions that asthmatics suffer towards a common mold/mould have discovered that many people with asthma actually had the mold/mould growing in their own lungs. The research led by University of Leicester scientists at Glenfield Hospital has been published in the December 2010 issue of the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine. The team based in the Institute for Lung Health at the University of Leicester and Glenfield Hospital examined the impact on asthmatics of a common environmental mold/mould, Aspergillus fumigates, usually found in soil and compost heaps. Professor Andy Wardlaw from the University of Leicester said: " Asthma is a very common condition where the breathing tubes (bronchi) can go into spasm making it difficult to breathe. Around a fifth of adults with severe asthma, which they have had for a long time, get permanent (fixed) narrowing of their bronchi. It is known that A. fumigatus can grow in the lungs of some people with asthma and mold/mould allergy, which can cause severe lung damage. " This problem is thought to only affect a very small number of people with asthma; however, about half of people with severe asthma have evidence of allergy to moulds like A. fumigatus. " Researchers in the Institute for Lung Health at the University of Leicester and Glenfield Hospital, Leicester, carried out a study funded by the Midlands Asthma and Allergy Research Association (MAARA, a Midlands based charity funding research into asthma and allergy research. www.maara.org) and the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF), to determine whether the problem of A. fumigatus growing in the lungs is more common than previously thought, and whether this could explain the fixed narrowing of the airways that occurs in some people with asthma. Professor Wardlaw added: " Our study showed that 6 out of 10 people with asthma who were allergic to A. fumigatus grew the mould from their sputum. We also found that if you were allergic to A. fumigatus you had more narrowing of the airways than if you were not allergic, and this was worse in patients from whom A. fumigatus was grown. " Our research concluded that it is possible that fixed narrowing of breathing tubes in many people with asthma could be caused by A. fumigatus growing in their lungs. " Treating individuals from whom A. fumigatus is detected with antibiotics against the mould may prevent fixed narrowing of the airways. " Contact: Professor Andy Wardlaw 01-162-563-841 University of Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 At the end of KC's article it says may be helpful to treat A Fumigas w antibiotics against the mold. It that use of 'antibiotics', do they mean antifungals as another way of expressing " antiobiotics against mold " or can anti-bacterials, what most people consider when refering to antiobiotics, be helpful? --- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> wrote: > > Scroll down to Kristoph Vogel > > http://www.arb.ca.gov:80/research/seminars/seminars.htm > > I have been communicating with him by email. He has found that particulates from dairy farms cause a much greater degree of inflammation when compared to the particles in indoor air that he has researched so far. The power point is available by clicking on it. He also said that LPS (endotoxin) is very inflammatory. I have suggested that he look into water-damaged homes and buildings. We will see. > > [] Asthma Research Breaks the Mold > > > > Asthma Research Breaks the Mold > by admin on December 14, 2010 > > http://worldasthmafoundation.org/asthma-research-breaks-the-mold.htm > > " Treating individuals from whom A. fumigatus is detected with antibiotics against the mould may prevent fixed narrowing of the airways. " > > Contact: Professor Andy Wardlaw > 01-162-563-841 > University of Leicester > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Barb: I trust he does not use antibiotics for A. fumigatus. However, I am trying to obtain the full paper to see what they actually do administer. [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold At the end of KC's article it says may be helpful to treat A Fumigas w antibiotics against the mold. It that use of 'antibiotics', do they mean antifungals as another way of expressing " antiobiotics against mold " or can anti-bacterials, what most people consider when refering to antiobiotics, be helpful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thanks KC, that would explain some of it. seems plausable that also with the WDB exposure and toxins,ect. involved the RAD would just complicate this even more. still wonder, is the caughing and airways closeing up more of a defence reaction or is it a reaction based on irritation, or both. I guess anything that irritates would trigger the reaction, seems like the caughing is a effort to rid the lungs of whatever your breathing in , maybe it's a defence and the closeing up of airways is more of a reaction, I guess. > > Asthma Research Breaks the Mold > by admin on December 14, 2010 > > http://worldasthmafoundation.org/asthma-research-breaks-the-mold.htm > > Study finds cause of allergic reaction could be growing in your lungs > > Scientists investigating the allergic reactions that asthmatics suffer towards a common mold/mould have discovered that many people with asthma actually had the mold/mould growing in their own lungs. > > The research led by University of Leicester scientists at Glenfield Hospital has been published in the December 2010 issue of the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine. > > The team based in the Institute for Lung Health at the University of Leicester and Glenfield Hospital examined the impact on asthmatics of a common environmental mold/mould, Aspergillus fumigates, usually found in soil and compost heaps. > > Professor Andy Wardlaw from the University of Leicester said: " Asthma is a very common condition where the breathing tubes (bronchi) can go into spasm making it difficult to breathe. Around a fifth of adults with severe asthma, which they have had for a long time, get permanent (fixed) narrowing of their bronchi. It is known that A. fumigatus can grow in the lungs of some people with asthma and mold/mould allergy, which can cause severe lung damage. > > " This problem is thought to only affect a very small number of people with asthma; however, about half of people with severe asthma have evidence of allergy to moulds like A. fumigatus. " > > Researchers in the Institute for Lung Health at the University of Leicester and Glenfield Hospital, Leicester, carried out a study funded by the Midlands Asthma and Allergy Research Association (MAARA, a Midlands based charity funding research into asthma and allergy research. www.maara.org) and the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF), to determine whether the problem of A. fumigatus growing in the lungs is more common than previously thought, and whether this could explain the fixed narrowing of the airways that occurs in some people with asthma. > > Professor Wardlaw added: " Our study showed that 6 out of 10 people with asthma who were allergic to A. fumigatus grew the mould from their sputum. We also found that if you were allergic to A. fumigatus you had more narrowing of the airways than if you were not allergic, and this was worse in patients from whom A. fumigatus was grown. > > " Our research concluded that it is possible that fixed narrowing of breathing tubes in many people with asthma could be caused by A. fumigatus growing in their lungs. > > " Treating individuals from whom A. fumigatus is detected with antibiotics against the mould may prevent fixed narrowing of the airways. " > > Contact: Professor Andy Wardlaw > 01-162-563-841 > University of Leicester > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 some of the first information I found on the sinus/olfactory damage was from a few studies of people who worked in feed lots. some of those, when you ride past them with this illness you better not be driveing. --- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> wrote: > > Scroll down to Kristoph Vogel > > http://www.arb.ca.gov:80/research/seminars/seminars.htm > > I have been communicating with him by email. He has found that particulates from dairy farms cause a much greater degree of inflammation when compared to the particles in indoor air that he has researched so far. The power point is available by clicking on it. He also said that LPS (endotoxin) is very inflammatory. I have suggested that he look into water-damaged homes and buildings. We will see. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Please, let us know if you find out Jack, I was wondering about the possability of maybe putting a few drops of my antifungal nasal spray in my neubulizer ? presciption from Dr. Gray. do you think this might be worth a try? --- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> wrote: > > Barb: I trust he does not use antibiotics for A. fumigatus. However, I am trying to obtain the full paper to see what they actually do administer. > > [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold > > > > At the end of KC's article it says may be helpful to treat A Fumigas w antibiotics against the mold. It that use of 'antibiotics', do they mean antifungals as another way of expressing " antiobiotics against mold " or can anti-bacterials, what most people consider when refering to antiobiotics, be helpful? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 If you have nasal sinus congestion it would probably help. [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold Please, let us know if you find out Jack, I was wondering about the possability of maybe putting a few drops of my antifungal nasal spray in my neubulizer ? presciption from Dr. Gray. do you think this might be worth a try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 The antifungal nasal spray travels downs into your lungs with your mucus . Just make sure you nebulize the glutithione From: Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. <toxicologist1@...> Subject: Re: [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 3:21 PM If you have nasal sinus congestion it would probably help. [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold Please, let us know if you find out Jack, I was wondering about the possability of maybe putting a few drops of my antifungal nasal spray in my neubulizer ? presciption from Dr. Gray. do you think this might be worth a try? Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 a: I suggest that you ask Dr. Gray. You are now asking me modify a medial treatment, which is up to a M.D. to do. Re: [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold The antifungal nasal spray travels downs into your lungs with your mucus . Just make sure you nebulize the glutithione Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 and of course we should all consult our doctors about specific treatments that are right for us, if we have the funds, and of course the doctors frequently don't even agree, dr gray had my son nebulizing glutathione, dr rea thinks it can irritate and damage the lungs, so whose advise do you follow, we stopped it because it didn't seem to be helping him at all anyway... sue v. >a: I suggest that you ask Dr. Gray. You are now asking me >modify a medial treatment, which is up to a M.D. to do. > Re: [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold > > > > The antifungal nasal spray travels downs into your lungs with your >mucus . Just make sure you nebulize the glutithione > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 No I'm not, I was clarifying to Jeanine that her nasal spray makes it down slowly into her lungs. So there would be no need to nebulize From: Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. <toxicologist1@...> Subject: Re: [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 6:01 AM a: I suggest that you ask Dr. Gray. You are now asking me modify a medial treatment, which is up to a M.D. to do. Re: [] Re: Asthma Research Breaks the Mold The antifungal nasal spray travels downs into your lungs with your mucus . Just make sure you nebulize the glutithione Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I know it makes it there to some extent, I just wondered if it might help if got deeper into the lungs, or if it wouyld by useing the neubulaizer. > > No I'm not, I was clarifying to Jeanine that her nasal spray makes it down slowly into her lungs. So there would be no need to nebulize > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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