Re: Thought on Lidocaine / input requested

August 1, 2010

Tom, if your reaction is to something unknown, who do you know it is only to one

thing? how do you know it's because of cross contamination?

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> I belong to multiple groups (CFS, 10th Paradigm, Sick Building Syndrome,

Yasko) and I can't recall if I already posted this but I wanted to gather some

input.

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> To be brief, I have a irrational hypersensitivity to an unknown

particle/chemical/biotoxin. I am only triggered by this one " thing " and I, like

many others have gone through a lot trying to achieve full avoidance but had

already " cross-contaminated " everything. This is only triggered when I breath

through my nose.

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> I have ruled out a lot of treatments. Most recently, I felt that if I could

" reboot " my brain, I could eliminate this irrational response. Gupta and Hooper

do this through their Amygdala Retraining programs. I'm hesitant to spend money

on those. However, Dr. Eugene Lipov recently came out with a study on using

Stellate Ganglion Blocks to elminate post traumatic stress disorder. If you

read about that condition, you will find it to be very closely related to all of

the other fibro/cfs/mcs/etc. (unexplained illnesses if you will). So, instead

of reading books and watching dvd's I went for the more invasive route - a jab

to the neck, twice.

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> Here is the link for more information:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/721079

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> Now, this was not a success for me. But here is my question... Dr. Lipov

feels that lidocaine/marcaine when injected can " prune " the nerves of the brain

back to their pre-injury/pre-trauma state. He feels that after trauma, nerve

growth factor is secreted causing the sprouting of new nerve pathways. Taking

this a little further, what if I used a lidocaine nasal spray to try and reboot

the olfactory nerve or surrounding nerve cells? I know that this is used for

people with cluster headaches, but I'm just curious if anyone has any thoughts

on this or have tried something like this before? Would lidocaine even offer

temporary relief of symptoms? I also had a sphenopalatine ganglion block in the

past and that did not provide relief either. But I do remember that the

lidocaine he put up their first did provide short-term benefit.

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> I know I'm reaching on this... but really just curious for input.

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> Thanks,

> Tom

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August 1, 2010

Great question!

In addition to cross-contamination there is cross-reaction. Meaning one person

can, and usually does, react to more than one thing.

In my case the lidocaine treatment would do cross-harm to me. And putting it in

my neck, similar with dental treatment, could set me back to my disabled

condition of nearly 30 years ago.

We all react differently so I would not expect this to be necessarily true for

Tom or all others.

Go back to an exchange earlier today between Sharon and Dr Thrasher where they

talk about monotonic response not being appropriate to multiple exposures and

polymorphism response. Which is a more technical way of saying multiple

exposures and multiple reactions combine to a multitude of complexity which

cannot be identified, let alone treated, with a procedure based on one cause

resulting in one effect.

This complexity is what bamboozles doctors because of simplistic education and

the cultural pressure to be the top tier profession as measured by income and

immunity from challenge. Which has been expertly exploited by the Nay-Sayers.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

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