Re: looking to buy a house, but it has a powerline in the backyard

July 30, 2010

Alpha Labs TriField meter $195 from http://www.trifield.com/

If you are about 200 yards away from towers the EMF is almost

always back down to ambient. Arms length from appliances. And

I'd be more concerned about the electric meter, appliances and

wiring in the house because you are so much closer to them.

The TriField is great for checking those. Also check water pipes

because sometimes the electrical system is grounded in more

than one location to the water pipes. Fields can be generated

because of that.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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July 30, 2010

Saved from another list. Anyone try these or another brand?Â Kathy

They use BIOPRO Universal Chips on their laptop computers. BIOPRO Home

Harmonizers plugged into an

outlet in the middle of the house.

While I am uncertain as to their efficacy personally, our ND's office which

owns a thermography machine actually did a pre and post scan of a person's

head with and without the chip... The results appear real - less heat

generated within the brain with the cell chip in-place.

The only thing I will note is that at least the Cell Chips *seem* to cause

less agitation in me and less of a sense of a heavy head when I have to be on

the phone.

Â

The BEST policy is EMF avoidance. You may want to look into a (relatively)

inexpensive EMF meter like the one I have. It allowed us to make sure there

were no energy fields in the places as beds, etc.

Â Kept us from purchasing a house once that lit up like a Christmas tree full

of EMF due to improper/faulty wiring by whomever the electrical contractor

was. Also, helped us to realize why we were so fatigued staying at a

relative's home long-term once (we were sleeping right over some EMF field of

the apartment underneath theirs).

Here's a link (was the most useful meter I've purchased):

http://www.trifield.com/content/trifield-mete

Alasdair Philips, an expert who warns about the harmful effects of

EMF's and invented the electrosmog detector, is skeptical about BioPro

and other devices. You can read his column

here:http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/columns/aphilips/index.asp#16

* The radiation research site, which also warns about EMF's, also

once put up a warning about such devices as well, but it's been removed:

http://www.radiationresearch.org/

After reading what experts say,Â they decided toÂ try things that

can be measured by meters to block EMF's, like shielding materials.

* Regarding Trifield meter, it is great for 50/60Hz power line EMF's.

However, the wireless measurement option on it is not sensitive enough.

(The person writing this)Â was working near a cell tower and Trifield

didn't pick up the waves

whereÂ they sat, even though they were significant, but another meter

did).

* For wireless radiation (RF-EMF), I use the Cornet meter which is

available at lessemf.com (8 GHz

Basic RF Meter).

* Intermediate between power line EMF's and RF are the intermediate

frequencies on power lines that you can measure with the Stetzerizer

meter, also available at lessemf.com

If you're looking into shielding materials, the ones offered by lessemf

are expensive.

From: ultimatesass <healthy.carly@...>

Subject: [] looking to buy a house, but it has a powerline in the

backyard

Does anyone know an accurate way to measure EMF? What brand of meter can

I buy?

July 31, 2010

So are you saying that if there is a line in the backyard, but the tower is 200

yards away (in someone elses yard) then it is not as concerning? Additionally

you say it is better to check the actual house, electric meter, and wiring for

EMFs.

Thanks for the response and info. C

> If you are about 200 yards away from towers the EMF is almost

> always back down to ambient. Arms length from appliances. And

> I'd be more concerned about the electric meter, appliances and

> wiring in the house because you are so much closer to them.

>

> The TriField is great for checking those. Also check water pipes

> because sometimes the electrical system is grounded in more

> than one location to the water pipes. Fields can be generated

> because of that.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> Does anyone know an accurate way to measure EMF? What brand of

> meter can I buy?

>

August 2, 2010

Hi Folks,

First time poster here. I have learned a great deal from this listserve and

I'm so grateful that a free forum such as this exists. Jeff May, Carl

Grimes, Jack Thrasher.... these are my heroes! And through this group I'm

being introduced to other wise people in the industry everyday.

I cannot help but chime in on the " EMF " discussion. An electromagnetic

field, by definition, is composed of magnetic AND electric fields. Most

people are familiar with testing for magnetic fields (Gauss, milliGauss,

nanoTesla, etc.) and many of the early human health studies focused on

magnetic fields. Carl is right that in order for there to be magnetic fields

there must be current flow (amperage).

However, electric fields, which are perhaps equally as important, are

present when there is electrical potential (voltage) - regardless if there

is current flow or not. Surrounding high voltage transmission lines you can

have an abundance of electric fields (high voltage) and extremely low

magnetic fields, but most " emf consultants " only measure the magnetic

fields.

Quick example of electric vs. magnetic fields. A plugged in lamp that is

turned OFF will elevate ambient electric fields all the way to the switch.

Where there is " electric potential " (voltage) electric fields will be

present. Once the lamp is turned ON, and current is flowing through the

closed circuit, ambient magnetic fields will increase too. A " Gauss-meter "

will only measure the magnetic fields once the lamp is turned ON, and an

electric field meter is needed to measure the other half of the EMF

equation.

Not sure if this has already been posted here, but for $2 (supports a

non-profit) you can get a fantastic synopsis of EMF/health research by

downloading the BioInitative Report:

http://www.bioinitiative.org/

Radio Frequency radiation (e.g., cell phones, Wi-Fi, " SmartMeters " ) operate

on a much higher frequency, and RF radiation does not act the same as the

Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radiation coming from our power grid and

electrical systems. RF is a whole other ball of wax!

Stay well everyone - and keep posting!

--

Stadtner

Healthy Building Inspections

www.HBILLC.com

800-528-6101

August 2, 2010

Thanks and welcome to this group. I've read quite a bit about EMF

and ELF waves, Tesla, HAARP, etc. I feel that we are being bombarded

by these waves on 24/7 basis from GWEN towers, cell towers, and radar

stations. Do you check them out on certain weather sites?

Barth

www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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AS> Hi Folks,

AS> First time poster here. I have learned a great deal from this listserve and

AS> I'm so grateful that a free forum such as this exists. Jeff May, Carl

AS> Grimes, Jack Thrasher.... these are my heroes! And through this group I'm

AS> being introduced to other wise people in the industry everyday.

AS> I cannot help but chime in on the " EMF " discussion. An electromagnetic

AS> field, by definition, is composed of magnetic AND electric fields. Most

AS> people are familiar with testing for magnetic fields (Gauss, milliGauss,

AS> nanoTesla, etc.) and many of the early human health studies focused on

AS> magnetic fields. Carl is right that in order for there to be magnetic fields

AS> there must be current flow (amperage).

AS> However, electric fields, which are perhaps equally as important, are

AS> present when there is electrical potential (voltage) - regardless if there

AS> is current flow or not. Surrounding high voltage transmission lines you can

AS> have an abundance of electric fields (high voltage) and extremely low

AS> magnetic fields, but most " emf consultants " only measure the magnetic

AS> fields.

AS> Quick example of electric vs. magnetic fields. A plugged in lamp that is

AS> turned OFF will elevate ambient electric fields all the way to the switch.

AS> Where there is " electric potential " (voltage) electric fields will be

AS> present. Once the lamp is turned ON, and current is flowing through the

AS> closed circuit, ambient magnetic fields will increase too. A " Gauss-meter "

AS> will only measure the magnetic fields once the lamp is turned ON, and an

AS> electric field meter is needed to measure the other half of the EMF

AS> equation.

AS> Not sure if this has already been posted here, but for $2 (supports a

AS> non-profit) you can get a fantastic synopsis of EMF/health research by

AS> downloading the BioInitative Report:

AS> http://www.bioinitiative.org/

AS> Radio Frequency radiation (e.g., cell phones, Wi-Fi, " SmartMeters " ) operate

AS> on a much higher frequency, and RF radiation does not act the same as the

AS> Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radiation coming from our power grid and

AS> electrical systems. RF is a whole other ball of wax!

AS> Stay well everyone - and keep posting!

August 2, 2010

,

Welcome go the group! You're right that there is also an electric field but it

doesn't extend as far and has very different properties not associated with

health in the same way.

The TriField meter discussed here measures electric fields also and I rarely

find any of consequence. But that may the meter as much as fact.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: looking to buy a house, but it has a powerline in

the backyard