Re: Any point to taking CSM in a moldy environment?

[Guest guest]

If you aren't able to take CSM for any reason, try milk thistle. It

detoxes the liver very well. Both doctors and vets prescribe it for

liver problems. I don't believe there are any side effects from it at

all.

Barth

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SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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J> Good Afternoon!

J> I was wondering is there ANY point to taking CSM if unable to get out of a

mold environment? Is it possible, even if its rare, that just being on CSM could

make up for having the dreaded gene and

J> not being able to detox properly? Not that I know that I have the gene. I'm

quite sick and have no idea if there is mold in my current house or if i'm

reacting to all the belongings I brought with

J> me, including bedding, from my previous house but I'm definately getting

sicker and wonder where to go from here. I strongly suspect there is mold here

and that my belongings are adding to the

J> problem. I have limited funds so do not want to waste my time if there is

little point to trying CSM in my current situation.

J> I wonder what Shoemakers experiments have shown in this regard to just

getting onto CSM etc.

J> Thank you,

J> Jodie

[Guest guest]

Hi Jody,

I have gone from mold, sewer to mold sewer to mold sewer.   I conutinue to

take

things to help fight the fight.   Even if it is not CSM, you can do other

things

for yourself until you get to where you need to be.  Natural antifungals, detox

baths, Vit C  or ACES plus zinc,  MSM, NAC, Vit D3,  change diet, many things

so

you can help your body fight.  I know all about being trapped and not being

able

to get out.  The next time you move, if it is necessary to you I suggest

leaving

the things that are making you ill.  The less the better.  Good Luck with All

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Jodie <dheelite@...>

Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 4:13:30 PM

Subject: [] Any point to taking CSM in a moldy environment?

 

Good Afternoon!

I was wondering is there ANY point to taking CSM if unable to get out of a mold

environment? Is it possible, even if its rare, that just being on CSM could make

up for having the dreaded gene and not being able to detox properly? Not that I

know that I have the gene. I'm quite sick and have no idea if there is mold in

my current house or if i'm reacting to all the belongings I brought with me,

including bedding, from my previous house but I'm definately getting sicker and

wonder where to go from here. I strongly suspect there is mold here and that my

belongings are adding to the problem. I have limited funds so do not want to

waste my time if there is little point to trying CSM in my current situation.

I wonder what Shoemakers experiments have shown in this regard to just getting

onto CSM etc.

Thank you,

Jodie

[Guest guest]

Yes, absolutely do all you can or you will just get sicker. Taking in

nutrition, protocols will help you be able to tolerate what you can't get away

from better than if you did nothing. I am in a mold environment I can't escape

at the moment either and I really depend on detoxing and antifungals to not get

worse.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Anita, what kind of detoxing are you doing? I hope you have found another

place to go to?

Xox

jodie

________________________

On 2011-01-05 11:17:01 +1100 anita paulsen <apami@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, absolutely do all you can or you will just get sicker. Taking in

> nutrition, protocols will help you be able to tolerate what you can't get

> away from better than if you did nothing. I am in a mold environment I can't

> escape at the moment either and I really depend on detoxing and antifungals

> to not get worse.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can do epson salts  2 cups in a hot tub for 20 min.  or Baking soa

aluminum

free same 2 cups in hot bath, no less than 20min. 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Jodie <dheelite@...>

Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:18:21 PM

Subject: Re: [] Any point to taking CSM in a moldy environment?

 

Thanks Anita, what kind of detoxing are you doing? I hope you have found another

place to go to?

Xox

jodie

[Guest guest]

Is Arm and Hammer aluminum free?

>

> You can do epson salts  2 cups in a hot tub for 20 min.  or Baking soa

aluminum

> free same 2 cups in hot bath, no less than 20min. 

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't Bob's Red Mill baking soda be kind of expensive to take a bath in? I

buy the Arm and Hammer in ten pound bags at Sam's Club but it doesn't say

aluminum free. I have the Bob's for taking internally. Do you all use aluminum

free to bath in? I didn't think to be concerned about that. Maybe that is why

people use epson salts? Sometimes I use bulk sea salt that I get for .99 cents

a pound at Whole Foods, but if I run out, I use baking soda in the tub.

>

> Bob's red Mill is aluminum free ....... have to look for the answer to your

> question one day.   I know I have baking powder that says aluminum free.  A

> chemist Please >>>>>>

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Wow never knew it could do so much, be careful.. Kathy

http://www.rexresearch.com/articles2/nacarbmapsyr.htm

http://sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/index.php/administration-methods/product-qual\

ity-and-cost/

Adverse reactions of sodium bicarbonate can include metabolic alkalosis, edema

due to sodium overload, congestive heart failure, hyperosmolar syndrome,

hypervolemic hypernatremia, and hypertension due to increased sodium. In

patients who consume a high calcium or dairy-rich diet, calcium supplements, or

calcium-containing antacids  calcium carbonate ( Tums), the use of sodium

bicarbonate can cause milk-alkali syndrome, which can result in metastatic

calcification, kidney stones, and kidney failure.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/12/15/baking-soda-used-t\

o-treat-swine-flu-85-years-ago.aspx

http://publications.imva.info/index.php/e-books/sodium-bicarbonate-rich-man-s-po\

or-man-s-cancer-treatment-e-book.html

From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Any point to taking CSM in a moldy

environment?

Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 9:40 PM

Me too but now I am wondering LOL   Use the other for internal use that says

aluminum free  Bob Mills 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

I lived in a moldy environment for 4 months and took sporanox, ketoconazol nasal

inhaler and CSM and still had to move. Ive been told that meds dont work unless

your out of your WDB.

Best of luck

>

> Good Afternoon!

>

> I was wondering is there ANY point to taking CSM if unable to get out of a

mold environment? Is it possible, even if its rare, that just being on CSM could

make up for having the dreaded gene and not being able to detox properly? Not

that I know that I have the gene. I'm quite sick and have no idea if there is

mold in my current house or if i'm reacting to all the belongings I brought with

me, including bedding, from my previous house but I'm definately getting sicker

and wonder where to go from here. I strongly suspect there is mold here and that

my belongings are adding to the problem. I have limited funds so do not want to

waste my time if there is little point to trying CSM in my current situation.

>

> I wonder what Shoemakers experiments have shown in this regard to just getting

onto CSM etc.

>

> Thank you,

> Jodie

>

[Guest guest]

I started to think and remember talking to one of the other members who took

some of her belongings with her from her WDB to her new residence and she

recovered but she slept outside for the first couple of months. Hope this helps

>

> Good Afternoon!

>

> I was wondering is there ANY point to taking CSM if unable to get out of a

mold environment? Is it possible, even if its rare, that just being on CSM could

make up for having the dreaded gene and not being able to detox properly? Not

that I know that I have the gene. I'm quite sick and have no idea if there is

mold in my current house or if i'm reacting to all the belongings I brought with

me, including bedding, from my previous house but I'm definately getting sicker

and wonder where to go from here. I strongly suspect there is mold here and that

my belongings are adding to the problem. I have limited funds so do not want to

waste my time if there is little point to trying CSM in my current situation.

>

> I wonder what Shoemakers experiments have shown in this regard to just getting

onto CSM etc.

>

> Thank you,

> Jodie

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it will give you some protection but you have to take it like he says.

Lee

> >

> > Good Afternoon!

> >

> > I was wondering is there ANY point to taking CSM if unable to get out of a

mold environment? Is it possible, even if its rare, that just being on CSM could

make up for having the dreaded gene and not being able to detox properly? Not

that I know that I have the gene. I'm quite sick and have no idea if there is

mold in my current house or if i'm reacting to all the belongings I brought with

me, including bedding, from my previous house but I'm definately getting sicker

and wonder where to go from here. I strongly suspect there is mold here and that

my belongings are adding to the problem. I have limited funds so do not want to

waste my time if there is little point to trying CSM in my current situation.

> >

> > I wonder what Shoemakers experiments have shown in this regard to just

getting onto CSM etc.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Jodie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jodie

Right now the only kind of detoxing my body can handle are foot baths and

charcoal. I use about 3 sprigs or so of cilantro in some distilled water for

the foot bath. Last year I could do them for 10 minutes but after more mold

exposure I can now only do them for 1 minutes this year, but what a world of

difference they make! Also the charcoal absorbs toxins. Don't take charcoal

within an hour of eating or taking anything.

Thank you, but still looking for new accomodations. I don't even know how to go

about it or where to begin as this is the second time I'm needing new

accomodotions and already had great difficulty the first time around. I feel as

if I have already exhausted all my resources. I am too disabled to drive, I

live in a rural area where there are not really any rentals, so I have to depend

right now on friends. We asked around before and found someone and it lasted a

while but now I can't be in that home anymore. I will just have to keep asking

around.

anita

__________________________________________

Thanks Anita, what kind of detoxing are you doing? I hope you have found another

place to go to?

Xox

jodie

________________________

On 2011-01-05 11:17:01 +1100 anita paulsen <apami@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, absolutely do all you can or you will just get sicker. Taking in

> nutrition, protocols will help you be able to tolerate what you can't get

> away from better than if you did nothing. I am in a mold environment I can't

> escape at the moment either and I really depend on detoxing and antifungals

> to not get worse.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Anita and good luck with your search. I wish you a speedy resolution.

jodie

________________________

On 2011-01-06 13:32:49 +1100 anita paulsen <apami@...> wrote:

>

> Jodie

>

> Right now the only kind of detoxing my body can handle are foot baths and

> charcoal. I use about 3 sprigs or so of cilantro in some distilled water for

> the foot bath. Last year I could do them for 10 minutes but after more mold

> exposure I can now only do them for 1 minutes this year, but what a world of

> difference they make! Also the charcoal absorbs toxins. Don't take charcoal

> within an hour of eating or taking anything.

>

>...snip