Sauna

[Guest guest]

At 11:34 PM 1/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>We want to build a sauna in our yard in the spring when the snow is

>gone, so that we can do sauna therapy. Does anyone know of any books

>or resources that might help us learn how to build a sauna as

>inexpensively as we can?

>

>Thanks,

You can build a small frame structure, 2x4's and plywood. For heat use a

small wood stove. Make a pile of rocks around the stove. The cheapest

stoves are lightweight and have no firebrick lining.

Bob

[Guest guest]

>At 11:34 PM 1/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>>Hi,

>>

>>We want to build a sauna in our yard in the spring when the snow is

>>gone, so that we can do sauna therapy. Does anyone know of any books

>>or resources that might help us learn how to build a sauna as

>>inexpensively as we can?

>>

>>Thanks,

>

>

>You can build a small frame structure, 2x4's and plywood. For heat use a

>small wood stove. Make a pile of rocks around the stove. The cheapest

>stoves are lightweight and have no firebrick lining.

>

>Bob

Thank you Bob,

For sauna therapy the heat has to be a certain temperature (I think

between 110 - 140). Could we accomplish maintaining a certain

temperature with that method? Also, no steam for therapy, so no need

for rocks. Plywood is a bit toxic, but I'm sure I can research and

find a non-toxic wood to use.

[Guest guest]

At 03:39 PM 1/29/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>For sauna therapy the heat has to be a certain temperature (I think

>between 110 - 140). Could we accomplish maintaining a certain

>temperature with that method? Also, no steam for therapy, so no need

>for rocks. Plywood is a bit toxic, but I'm sure I can research and

>find a non-toxic wood to use.

>

>

Yes you could do it, it might take a little practice using the wood stove,

but you would get the hang of it. Yes, the plywood is probably not the best

idea. Maybe some 1 x 6 or 1 x 8 spruce, or wood siding that is available in

your area. Used wood may be OK too, as long as it wasn't in a toxic

environment during it's life.

Bob

[Guest guest]

My sauna used all redwood, untreated it resists the high heat and humidity.

Mine was about 20 years old when I sold the house and had been also

subjected to two floods. Still in great shape. Open the door and let it air

all the time, grew mold if you closed the door.

Ed Hale Rock Island, Il

[Guest guest]

Two hours.

Same as swimming, for basically the same reasons.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: Sauna

Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:39:06 -0400

How long after eating a normal meal should one wait before having an ozone

sauna?

Greg

[Guest guest]

Two hours.

Same as swimming, for basically the same reasons.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: Sauna

Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:39:06 -0400

How long after eating a normal meal should one wait before having an ozone

sauna?

Greg

[Guest guest]

Two hours.

Same as swimming, for basically the same reasons.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: Sauna

Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:39:06 -0400

How long after eating a normal meal should one wait before having an ozone

sauna?

Greg

[Guest guest]

How long after eating a normal meal should one wait before having an ozone

sauna?

Greg

[Guest guest]

Dear Greg,

Two hours. Same as swimming.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: Fw: Sauna

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:33:08 -0400

How long after eating a normal meal should one wait before having an ozone

sauna?

Greg

[Guest guest]

Dear Greg,

Two hours. Same as swimming.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: Fw: Sauna

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:33:08 -0400

How long after eating a normal meal should one wait before having an ozone

sauna?

Greg

[Guest guest]

The one we bought was made by a man who makes them in his home. It's a

simple metal frame with a heater enclosed in a metal sheet and netting. It's

covered with a non-chemcially-treated tarp on all sides. I'd think it

wouldn't be too hard to make. The hardest part would be to find an

appropriate heater but it would be easier this time of year . You could

also build a wood one but be careful with that since alot of sensative people

also have trouble with various woods or things used to treat wood.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

>I went to sauna today for releasing mercury.So far I feel fine.Has anyone

>noted any adverse effects of sauna.What would be the optimum temperature

>and duration for us. How may times a week would be appropriate?I tried two

>15 minutes with a 15 minute brake in between.Thanks..

>

>Nil,

I take a hot bath for half an hour EVERY DAY. This is the same as a sauna

in terms of its results - sweating and raising body temperature and

(perhaps) thinning blood. We also have a sauna here which I use sometimes,

80 celsius for around 20 minutes is all I can stand, with a break. If I

use 70celsius I can stay in longer, or not have a break. The aim is to

sweat for as long as possible without causing other problems, so I guess it

is up to you.

n

[Guest guest]

Yildiz wrote:

> I went to sauna today for releasing mercury.So far I feel fine.Has anyone

noted any adverse effects of sauna.What would be the optimum temperature and

duration for us. How may times a week would be appropriate?I tried two 15

minutes with a 15 minute brake in between.Thanks..

>

I can't tolerate saunas, but I can tell in the first ten minutes - too much

vasodilation, leading to dizziness, lightheadedness, and eventually a migraine.

I think that if you don't have any problems in 24 hours after the sauna, you

should be fine (just my $0.02 worth).

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[Guest guest]

The standard medical party line on sauna detox is that it does not

work. Only an extremely tiny amount of toxins are released in the

sweat.

Personally, it seems like a reasonable thing to try to me.

From what I recall, a dry sauna of around 120 degrees F (Celsius, I

dunno) is what most detox people consider best.

I could not tolerate sauna. Perhaps an adrenal exhaustion thing?

Good luck,

Zippy

[Guest guest]

Message: 14

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:47:59 -0000

From: " theresa_marchok " <theresa_marchok@...>

Subject: sauna for merc removal

My neighbor bought a sauna and used it daily for a year and her

mercury levels dropped dramatically along with her symptoms. My

question: Has sauna been tried with children as young as 3 1/2? They

don't naturally sweat yet,do they? Is there any data on the efficacy

and safety of this with little ones?

Thanks,

Theresa

when was in Finland, the sauna was used for all family members, no age

restrictions.

also, they have a " saying " which is that " if the sauna cannot cure you, what

ails you is incurable " .

children were put outside to sleep in their carriages, every day, for 2 or more

hours, irregardless of weather, and brought into the sauna for short periods of

time irregardless of age.

smallest children stayed in the lowest levels, and had no " steam " , only were in

the warm air.

we have a sauna, and use it daily.

usually heating it to approx. 60-70 C prior to going in and starting.

both children go in. although daughter only likes it around 60-65 degrees, but

son will stay in saunas up to 80 degrees.

it is about the max. of mine tolerance too.

although some finns re known to go in up to 100 C

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[Guest guest]

Seems complicated but might give an idea..Nil

http://www.immuneweb.org/articles/detox.html

sauna

| I have assess to a number of saunas could someone backchannel me and let

me

| know how you use them. Do you monitof your body temp and get it to a core

| level. There does seem to be some danger here. Before I had CFS I went to

| the gym and I had been drink nothing but coffee prior to going. After a

| vigorous work out I went to the sauna and did not drink any water before

|

[Guest guest]

sauna

> I have assess to a number of saunas could someone backchannel me and let

me

> know how you use them.

> thanks

>

> Steve

Steve-The very controversial yet scientific Dr. Sherry has a sauna

protocol written in her latest book called Pain Free. It's really geared

toward Far Infared, but may apply to all types. When I get my sauna this is

the protocol I will start with as I am so sensitive to everything. She has

specifics for build up times, supplements, tri salts, hydration management,

etc..

I relate to the passing out. Traditional sauna heat is too high for me and

I can't tolerate it at all. Far Infared operates at much lower temperatures

so I hope I can tolerate it.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

Until I got used to the feel of it, I would use a sublingual

thermometer and shoot for core temp. of ~ 100. You might be able to

take more, or less, depending on you own body. Becareful though, it

is easy to overshoot. And, I found even 100 degrees to be draining.

Others would probably have much more experience in this area than I.

I only did consistent home saunas for about two months.

Best,

Zippy

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> I have assess to a number of saunas could someone backchannel me

and let me

> know how you use them. Do you monitof your body temp and get it to

a core

> level. There does seem to be some danger here. Before I had CFS I

went to

> the gym and I had been drink nothing but coffee prior to going.

After a

> vigorous work out I went to the sauna and did not drink any water

before

> going in. When I got out I passed out in the locker room. Luckly

there was a

> male nurse in there to help me out. So do should you drink a lot of

liquid

> in the sauna? And at what body temp do you get out? Once out do you

wrap

> yourself up in blankets or do you cool your self down?

>

> thanks

>

> Steve

[Guest guest]

In Digest Number 1608, wrote

<I wonder how come no one is taking up the sauna treatment as a method of

detox/metal removal for these kids. Seems

that would be an easy way..

Hi

if you refer to ozone sauna, I can tell you why we did not take this up...

too expensive!! at AUD $75.00 twice per week plus a 45 minute trip to the

city then return we just could not afford it. By contrast the ALA is $20.00

for 120 doses which is about 5 rounds and it working!

Fran

Melbourne

Australia (40degrees Celsius coming up tomorrow)

[Guest guest]

on 28/1/03 12:22 AM, Fran's optus at foxglove48@... wrote:

> In Digest Number 1608, wrote

> <I wonder how come no one is taking up the sauna treatment as a method of

> detox/metal removal for these kids. Seems

> that would be an easy way..

> Hi

> if you refer to ozone sauna, I can tell you why we did not take this up...

> too expensive!! at AUD $75.00 twice per week plus a 45 minute trip to the

> city then return we just could not afford it. By contrast the ALA is $20.00

> for 120 doses which is about 5 rounds and it working!

> Fran

> Melbourne

> Australia (40degrees Celsius coming up tomorrow)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, but its similar. Dr. Larry makes them and is making one

for me. I am not the " building " type. It'll come all ready made

with 3 infrared bulbs and sockets and switches and stuff. REady to

nail to the wall of the closet.

I researched and researched endlessly but I don't think there's a lot

of evidence that FIR is better than infrared bulbs. A lot of the

original work was done on bulbs. All I found were tons of commercial

FIR sites citing the same generalities. And I like the infrared bulb

sauna at my health club (just don't like going there). And this will

actually work as a sauna and only cost me $200.

> jill

>

> did you get the sauna directions from mercola's site?

>

> if so, i don't think it's a far infrared sauna, the one listed

there is

> infrared. it's a bit confusing.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I would appreciate any info.I for sure cannot find the book

in the library...lol

Maarit...

> Hi Maarit,

>

> You wrote, " About sauna: I have been going to sauna all my life,

but now I

> cannot tolerate it as I did before. I feel fine and energetic right

after

> sauna, but after about ten-fifteen minutes I start feeling tired. "

> ==================

>

> That's why people here are beginning to use far infrared (FIR)

saunas. The

> heat is lower but the far infrared rays penetrate deeper into the

body than

> the heat in a traditional sauna.

>

> The Mayo Clinic did some encouraging studies on the use of FIR for

patients

> with congestive heart failure. (Traditional sauna would not have

been

> possible for them.) The guys who did the studies all have Japanese

names, so

> it wasn't until I found the full articles that I realized that they

worked

> at the Mayo Clinic.

>

> Can you get a book from your library system called " Detoxify or

Die " by

> Sherry A. , M.D.? She talks a lot about FIR. Meanwhile, I'll

try to

> find something on a website about FIR that I can post for you.

>

> Best,

> Sue B.,

> Upstate New York

[Guest guest]

We live in a Univ community with free access to saunas so have used

this over the years with small children. I would sit for 5 " with a

baby(6-12 mos), go shower us in cool(not hot/not cold) water and

repeat a couple of times. As the children grew, they could tolerate

10-15 " with no problem. By the time they were in grade school, they

could generally outlast me. We did drink lots of water, pour water

on the coals(so not a dry sauna), and douse each other with water

while we were in there. This is one thing I've tried to do

routinely, x2 per week or so, with our daughter since I discovered

the detox benefits. Although she does not sweat easily, she is

always willing to go so it must feel good. Can't help about the

sunlamp - the grey, sunless winters in Iowa have been routine for

too long.

Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:49 am

We live in Cleveland where there is sun for only about 70 days of

the year. My family..we're all ghostly pale, my kids have circles

under their eyes, all of our hair is thinning. Would it be wise to

purchase a sunlamp? I am just not used to this. I've lived on the

southeast coast my whole life and moved up here 2 years ago. This

has got to be the worse place to live. Also, how young would too

young for the sauna be?

[Guest guest]

> Dear Lists,

>

> I do have a closet but there is no outlet in

> the closet, and the " compressor " would have to be as

> close to an outlet as the cord would allow.

==============

OK, I told you my brain is more fried than normal. It's it a

concentrator and not a compressor? Oh well, that thingamagig that

makes oxygen. gail

[Guest guest]

> I recently joined a gym and have been using the sauna a lot --

good quiet

> place to zone out, lol. But I was wondering yesterday, if sweating

chelates

> mercury, where is it going? On my towel? In the air? Anyone

understand how this

> works?

You are asking where your sweat goes?

It goes on your towel, yes, and presumably some drips onto

the floor-- and some is still on your skin when you leave

the sauna and take a shower.

Moria