Re: Woolen jacket - please help.....

[Guest guest]

It is possible that the wool jacket contains mold, but also possibly not. Many

of us have problems which originated with mold (and/or other bioaerosols), but

now have problems with other things, particularly fragrances, smoke, and other

cosmetics. Wool is another of those things many people without mold sensitivity

are sensitive to. So, having become sensitized to mold, becoming sensitized to

something that previously never bothered you is quite possible. Stop wearing it

for several weeks. If you feel better, wear it again. If you again react, give

it away.

Gil

Woolen jacket - please help.....

Posted by: " lana_den " lana_den@... lana_den

Date: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:01 am ((PDT))

After feeling healthy for a few months I have been stricken again....

This morning I get up and feel a little sick like i have a flu.

My little son was coughing yesterday as well. We get out for some breakfast and

i notice that i am getting sick, weak, starting to have headache, brain fog,

irritability, itching hair and ears, my eyes are hurting like i have been crying

for days, and symptoms similar to my first mold exposure. I take off my woolen

jacket and feel better. Now i am starting to connect the dotes in the puzzle....

If i did not read about neurotoxins, endotoxins and contamination I would never

thought it might be my 100% woolen jacket which i have been wearing almost every

day during first exposure in the spring 2009, which was hanging there all the

time, which i took to my new apartment and was wearing almost daily last fall,

this winter and this spring... I am still shocked from this revelation....I

still can not believe it is a JACKET ...i just washed the jacket few days ago

with detergent and a little bleach. Could i be reacting to detergent and bleach?

I described my story somewhere. But in the nutshell i was mold exposed in

march-may 2009 and has been sick on and off in my new apt (cladosporium and few

other molds were discovered in the new apartment windows, but it did not make me

sick as the first apartment did). On and off sicknesses were related according

to my observation to these factors (please, help me understand what is going on

if you have any ideas)

- humidity levels and possibly cold temperature (the humidity in the bay area is

90% right now)

- my immune system

I noticed that i have not had the symptoms since summer started, like beginning

of june.... i finally started feeling like myself before this whole mold

ordeal... Is it because i was not wearing the jacket, the humidity levels were

lower, the temperatures are higher???? Is it also somehow related to my immune

strength? is is possible that fungus is growing inside me and gets opportunistic

when the weather/humidity changes and my immune system gets weak bcs i get sick

with a virus? i get really sick when my son gets sick? is it really a JACKET?

please, reply, i am crying for help....

Why is there no one who can give definite answers??? It is like a radiation in

some way, we do not see it, you can not wash it away, kill it? is there any

toxic lab which can check my jacket for the toxins???

marigold

[Guest guest]

To feel better you must remove the exposures.  Bleach does not kill mold. In

some cases I have hear it makes the problem worse. 

Get rid of the contaminated stuff.  No snce in having it tested if you could

dispose of it and get a another one. It would probably cost more to have it

tested than to just get rid of it.  How do you know it is not the bleach you

are

now having a problems with ??  Do you use bleach on everything.  Do you wear

other clothes with bleach.  What about the detergent ??   

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: lana_den <lana_den@...>

Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 2:17:41 AM

Subject: [] Woolen jacket - please help.....

 

After feeling healthy for a few months I have been stricken again....

This morning I get up and feel a little sick like i have a flu.

My little son was coughing yesterday as well. We get out for some breakfast and

i notice that i am getting sick, weak, starting to have headache, brain fog,

irritability, itching hair and ears, my eyes are hurting like i have been crying

for days, and symptoms similar to my first mold exposure. I take off my woolen

jacket and feel better. Now i am starting to connect the dotes in the puzzle....

If i did not read about neurotoxins, endotoxins and contamination I would never

thought it might be my 100% woolen jacket which i have been wearing almost every

day during first exposure in the spring 2009, which was hanging there all the

time, which i took to my new apartment and was wearing almost daily last fall,

this winter and this spring... I am still shocked from this revelation....I

still can not believe it is a JACKET ...i just washed the jacket few days ago

with detergent and a little bleach. Could i be reacting to detergent and bleach?

I described my story somewhere. But in the nutshell i was mold exposed in

march-may 2009 and has been sick on and off in my new apt (cladosporium and few

other molds were discovered in the new apartment windows, but it did not make me

sick as the first apartment did). On and off sicknesses were related according

to my observation to these factors (please, help me understand what is going on

if you have any ideas)

- humidity levels and possibly cold temperature (the humidity in the bay area is

90% right now)

- my immune system

I noticed that i have not had the symptoms since summer started, like beginning

of june.... i finally started feeling like myself before this whole mold

ordeal... Is it because i was not wearing the jacket, the humidity levels were

lower, the temperatures are higher???? Is it also somehow related to my immune

strength? is is possible that fungus is growing inside me and gets opportunistic

when the weather/humidity changes and my immune system gets weak bcs i get sick

with a virus? i get really sick when my son gets sick? is it really a JACKET?

please, reply, i am crying for help....

Why is there no one who can give definite answers??? It is like a radiation in

some way, we do not see it, you can not wash it away, kill it? is there any

toxic lab which can check my jacket for the toxins???

marigold

[Guest guest]

Wool easily cross contaminates because it is soft and porous. The very first

garment I reacted to after leaving my moldy home was a wool sweater. So yes, I

say it could be the jacket. Just experiment and you will figure it out. D

>

> After feeling healthy for a few months I have been stricken again....

>

> This morning I get up and feel a little sick like i have a flu.

> My little son was coughing yesterday as well. We get out for some breakfast

and i notice that i am getting sick, weak, starting to have headache, brain fog,

irritability, itching hair and ears, my eyes are hurting like i have been crying

for days, and symptoms similar to my first mold exposure. I take off my woolen

jacket and feel better. Now i am starting to connect the dotes in the puzzle....

If i did not read about neurotoxins, endotoxins and contamination I would never

thought it might be my 100% woolen jacket which i have been wearing almost every

day during first exposure in the spring 2009, which was hanging there all the

time, which i took to my new apartment and was wearing almost daily last fall,

this winter and this spring... I am still shocked from this revelation....I

still can not believe it is a JACKET ...i just washed the jacket few days ago

with detergent and a little bleach. Could i be reacting to detergent and bleach?

I described my story somewhere. But in the nutshell i was mold exposed in

march-may 2009 and has been sick on and off in my new apt (cladosporium and few

other molds were discovered in the new apartment windows, but it did not make me

sick as the first apartment did). On and off sicknesses were related according

to my observation to these factors (please, help me understand what is going on

if you have any ideas)

> - humidity levels and possibly cold temperature (the humidity in the bay area

is 90% right now)

> - my immune system

> I noticed that i have not had the symptoms since summer started, like

beginning of june.... i finally started feeling like myself before this whole

mold ordeal... Is it because i was not wearing the jacket, the humidity levels

were lower, the temperatures are higher???? Is it also somehow related to my

immune strength? is is possible that fungus is growing inside me and gets

opportunistic when the weather/humidity changes and my immune system gets weak

bcs i get sick with a virus? i get really sick when my son gets sick? is it

really a JACKET?

> please, reply, i am crying for help....

> Why is there no one who can give definite answers??? It is like a radiation in

some way, we do not see it, you can not wash it away, kill it? is there any

toxic lab which can check my jacket for the toxins???

> marigold

>

[Guest guest]

All I can say is that I would react to the detergent & bleach. I use Purex Free

Clear, Bi-O-Kleen or Country Save powder - ONLY. I have a wool blazer that

smells like mildew sorta whe it gets wet. Years ago I heard that wool just

smells finky when wet. You could also have a wool allergy but I've heard that

sensitivity to wool is usually a sensitivity to the moth treatment wool usually

gets.

I am east of you & in June I felt like you do. Everyone was complaining of

allergies. Today under my eyes are swollen like you described & I thought I'd

ask at the health food store if it's allergy season again.

>

> After feeling healthy for a few months I have been stricken again....

>

> This morning I get up and feel a little sick like i have a flu.

> My little son was coughing yesterday as well. We get out for some breakfast

and i notice that i am getting sick, weak, starting to have headache, brain fog,

irritability, itching hair and ears, my eyes are hurting like i have been crying

for days, and symptoms similar to my first mold exposure. I take off my woolen

jacket and feel better. Now i am starting to connect the dotes in the puzzle....

If i did not read about neurotoxins, endotoxins and contamination I would never

thought it might be my 100% woolen jacket which i have been wearing almost every

day during first exposure in the spring 2009, which was hanging there all the

time, which i took to my new apartment and was wearing almost daily last fall,

this winter and this spring... I am still shocked from this revelation....I

still can not believe it is a JACKET ...i just washed the jacket few days ago

with detergent and a little bleach. Could i be reacting to detergent and bleach?

I described my story somewhere. But in the nutshell i was mold exposed in

march-may 2009 and has been sick on and off in my new apt (cladosporium and few

other molds were discovered in the new apartment windows, but it did not make me

sick as the first apartment did). On and off sicknesses were related according

to my observation to these factors (please, help me understand what is going on

if you have any ideas)

> - humidity levels and possibly cold temperature (the humidity in the bay area

is 90% right now)

> - my immune system

> I noticed that i have not had the symptoms since summer started, like

beginning of june.... i finally started feeling like myself before this whole

mold ordeal... Is it because i was not wearing the jacket, the humidity levels

were lower, the temperatures are higher???? Is it also somehow related to my

immune strength? is is possible that fungus is growing inside me and gets

opportunistic when the weather/humidity changes and my immune system gets weak

bcs i get sick with a virus? i get really sick when my son gets sick? is it

really a JACKET?

> please, reply, i am crying for help....

> Why is there no one who can give definite answers??? It is like a radiation in

some way, we do not see it, you can not wash it away, kill it? is there any

toxic lab which can check my jacket for the toxins???

> marigold

>

[Guest guest]

Marigold,

There are at east 2 possible problems with wool, both relating to the hair

structure of the fibers.

Hairs consist of 2 distinct layers. The outer layer is very thin and is called

the cuticle. It consists of overlapping thin sheets of keratin protein.

The inner portion, which constitutes most of the hair thickeness, consists of

cortex particles, rope-like keratin proteins in elongated fibers. (I have

scanning electron micrographs of wool fibers at:

<http://www.mayindoorair.com/photo.htm>).

When you have a splpit end, the cuticle deteriorates and the cortex fibers are

revealed. The ends of the cortex particles (which stick out and fray) can be

very sharp and probably cause the irritation that some folks experience from

wool.

When hairs are wet, they swell by absorbing water and almost double in width.

Whatever i dissolved in the water fills the spaces between the cortex plates and

cuticle fibers. When the water evaporates, residues are left between the cortex

fibers and cuticle plates.

I think that this is why wool smells when it is damp, because some of the odor

from the sweat of the sheep is released from the microscopic spaces between the

wool structural constituents.

This process is also in part how hair takes up dyes.

So, it is possible that alelrgen emissions are affecting you.

It is also possible that the wool fibers themselves are a problem. I have seen

many wool rugs that for some reason contained deteriorating fibers which were

shedding millions of respirable cuticle particles. People exposed to these can

experience eye irritation and coughing.

I would agree with others that temporarily eliminating the jacket is the answer.

It is also possible that multiple washings and dryings will diminish the

allergenicity.

But if the fibers are deteriorating and you are reacting to the respirable

particle emissions, washing may worsen the condition of the fibers and increase

the emissions.

I always recommend that folks temporarily get rid of wool rugs that have

deteriorating fibers to see if this makes a difference. Often, coughing is

reduced dramatically.

May

May Indoor Air Investigations LLC

www.mayindoorair.com

>

> After feeling healthy for a few months I have been stricken again....

>

> This morning I get up and feel a little sick like i have a flu.

> My little son was coughing yesterday as well. We get out for some breakfast

and i notice that i am getting sick, weak, starting to have headache, brain fog,

irritability, itching hair and ears, my eyes are hurting like i have been crying

for days, and symptoms similar to my first mold exposure. I take off my woolen

jacket and feel better. Now i am starting to connect the dotes in the puzzle....

If i did not read about neurotoxins, endotoxins and contamination I would never

thought it might be my 100% woolen jacket which i have been wearing almost every

day during first exposure in the spring 2009, which was hanging there all the

time, which i took to my new apartment and was wearing almost daily last fall,

this winter and this spring... I am still shocked from this revelation....I

still can not believe it is a JACKET ...i just washed the jacket few days ago

with detergent and a little bleach. Could i be reacting to detergent and bleach?

I described my story somewhere. But in the nutshell i was mold exposed in

march-may 2009 and has been sick on and off in my new apt (cladosporium and few

other molds were discovered in the new apartment windows, but it did not make me

sick as the first apartment did). On and off sicknesses were related according

to my observation to these factors (please, help me understand what is going on

if you have any ideas)

> - humidity levels and possibly cold temperature (the humidity in the bay area

is 90% right now)

> - my immune system

> I noticed that i have not had the symptoms since summer started, like

beginning of june.... i finally started feeling like myself before this whole

mold ordeal... Is it because i was not wearing the jacket, the humidity levels

were lower, the temperatures are higher???? Is it also somehow related to my

immune strength? is is possible that fungus is growing inside me and gets

opportunistic when the weather/humidity changes and my immune system gets weak

bcs i get sick with a virus? i get really sick when my son gets sick? is it

really a JACKET?

> please, reply, i am crying for help....

> Why is there no one who can give definite answers??? It is like a radiation in

some way, we do not see it, you can not wash it away, kill it? is there any

toxic lab which can check my jacket for the toxins???

> marigold

>

[Guest guest]

Many years ago I heard that bleach only bleaches mold - doesn;y kill it. I heard

zepherin chloride kills it. Is that true?

>

> To feel better you must remove the exposures.  Bleach does not kill mold. In

> some cases I have hear it makes the problem worse. 

>

> Get rid of the contaminated stuff.  No snce in having it tested if you could

> dispose of it and get a another one. It would probably cost more to have it

> tested than to just get rid of it.  How do you know it is not the bleach you

are

> now having a problems with ??  Do you use bleach on everything.  Do you wear

> other clothes with bleach.  What about the detergent ??   

[Guest guest]

I wanted to set the record straight in case there was ever something non-porous

or soakable that got moldy like clothes or some possession maybe. You say it's

for infections. Do you mean that it is something also used for internal use?

>

> Zephiran Chloride is more effective than bleach. But why kill the

> mold? Dead mold is just as bad as live mold exept for infections.

> And infections are rare. The vast majority of reactions to mold is

> not infection. Besides, dead mold tends to dry out and fragment.

> Instead of hundreds of spores there are now tens of thousands of

> fragments.

>

> Remove the mold and stop the moisture.

>

> On the other hand, Zephiran Chloride is great for wounds, cuts

> and scrapes. Because the BACTERIA needs to be killed to

> prevent infections. But hydrogen peroxide is cheaper.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

[Guest guest]

OK. See I sometimes have to outgas new things for so long outside that they are

dirty ( & a few times in the past moldy) & then have to clean them up or throw

them out depending on the material.

> >

> > Zephiran Chloride is more effective than bleach. But why kill the

> > mold? Dead mold is just as bad as live mold exept for infections.

> > And infections are rare. The vast majority of reactions to mold is

> > not infection. Besides, dead mold tends to dry out and fragment.

> > Instead of hundreds of spores there are now tens of thousands of

> > fragments.

> >

> > Remove the mold and stop the moisture.

> >

> > On the other hand, Zephiran Chloride is great for wounds, cuts

> > and scrapes. Because the BACTERIA needs to be killed to

> > prevent infections. But hydrogen peroxide is cheaper.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

>

>