Guest guest Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Dr Goldberg My estimation of this man and his work is / was based on book reviews of: THE MYTH OF AUTISM The use of dangerous drugs (or as the Big p'HARMA say perfectly safe today as no one yet has worked out how they harm us.) is not a good prospect for a young child who already has health issues. I fully agree with you there. The cost of treatments as you say is expensive when compared to other treatments especially as in your case the result was worse than a treatment many times less expensive. We are faced then with a doctor who uses some good and bad practices, demands too much money for the expertise he has and finally is no better and no worse than other autism doctors. And in some cases the progress or recovery is ZERO. In fact as you say for much less money you can get treatments that do work. From your actual experience the doctor is not particularly good and his work for you cannot be anyhting but bad. I think it is right therefore to be wary of claims made for the benefit of autism patients and by extension not necessarily agreeing when he lambasts other ideas which this group agree with. As a person who would take the brains and ideas even of the devil, I would look quietly at what Dr Goldberg has to say but not necessarily agree with all of it. As a person who thinks a mix of dangerous foods, vaccines, toxins and drugs cause this illness the path to continue and increase the norm is stupid. We are faced with a complex situation therefore. Dr Goldberg does share many ideas that this group believes just as he disagrees with some. Just going back to one reviewer who said that USA tends to accept drugs as safe (and vaccines) and only much later finds out they are dangerous. Mercury still is and was put in many vaccines and was given to younger and younger age groups. Today this practice has stopped only in that neurotoxic mercury is out or reduced but we still give vaccines to groups when previously we said it was dangerous. What is happening, whether it causes cot deaths, epilepsy, autism, cancer or whatever is an Alice in Wonderland situation where dangerous practices are stopped with the proviso they were not dangerous while continuing with practices KNOWN to be harmful fifty years ago but today claimed to be safe. With current rates of autism how can the medical profession claim ANY expertise on health? It is not difficult to see why any sensible person cannot come up with good ideas on autism and Dr Goldberg has good ideas alongside some bad ones. I wouldn't write him off but would keep his ideas in mind and use the good ones. Going back to your good experience I have to say that the Cutler chelation and high vitamin A strategy which obviously worked for your child needs to explained to those who are unfamiliar like myself. Chelation is a practice used for lead but denied by most mainstream doctors as not good for mercury. The one death is put forward as total condemnation of the technique while forgetting how tens of millions have suddenly died before six months or are resigned to a life with brain disorders for life. Not a level headed view of the real world. The good news is that autism has moved from incurable to a cure or recovery rate of between 10 and 20 per cent meaning that some protocols are having benefits unheard of just ten years ago. Dr Goldberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Totally agree this guy talks a great game, but his record does not support the claims. He had us snowed for a while, but after investigating the drugs he prescribes, danger of kidney and liver damage from long term use, monthly blood tests at a lab he has interest in and virtually ZERO successes. My son is OFF all prescription meds which we prefer. Search the NIDS list for those currently on the protocol. Search the archives for pro and con. Search for CURED KIDS. Any of those off medications? ZERO CURED, IMHO. Hundreds have lost the Dx, plummeted the ATEC and gotten remarkably healthier using ALA Cutler Protocol chelation. Of course it will not work for all, but it is a miracle for my vaccine damaged son. ALA is Alpha Lipoic Acid, a health food antioxidant that chelates mercury across the blood brain barrier. We started relatively late because we observed others to insure it caused no harm. They all improved. Yeast was worst side effect, easily treated with GSE and Biotin. My son had voices and sounds in his head that were making him miserable and getting worse. They left after the first month of chelation. Most other forms of chelation were too dangerous for us. ALA is safe, gentle and cheap. You will find a handful (can count on one hand) people who claim NIDS has cured their child. After 15 years, I have seen just as many spontaneously heal from parents doing virtually nothing. Almost all improve, regardless of intervention. The degree of improvement varies in my experience. Parents should watch for patterns of symptoms in other kids and watch for effective treatments for those symptoms. One profound note - my son was non verbal until 7-8 yrs old and barely spoke then. Now that he is 16 and extremely verbal, I asked what his earliest memory was and he accurately described getting a toy train at age 3. He has TONS of memories from his pre verbal days he tells us about. So just because they appear to be distant, they are probably taking it all in. Let them know how much they are loved. > > Dr Goldberg > > > > > > > My estimation of this man and his work > is / was based on book reviews of: > > > > THE MYTH OF AUTISM > > > > The use of dangerous drugs (or as the > Big p'HARMA say perfectly safe today as no one yet has worked out how > they harm us.) is not a good prospect for a young child who already > has health issues. I fully agree with you there. > > > > The cost of treatments as you say is > expensive when compared to other treatments especially as in your > case the result was worse than a treatment many times less expensive. > > > > We are faced then with a doctor who > uses some good and bad practices, demands too much money for the > expertise he has and finally is no better and no worse than other > autism doctors. And in some cases the progress or recovery is ZERO. > > > > In fact as you say for much less money > you can get treatments that do work. > > > > From your actual experience the doctor > is not particularly good and his work for you cannot be anyhting but > bad. > > > > I think it is right therefore to be > wary of claims made for the benefit of autism patients and by > extension not necessarily agreeing when he lambasts other ideas which > this group agree with. > > > > As a person who would take the brains > and ideas even of the devil, I would look quietly at what Dr > Goldberg has to say but not necessarily agree with all of it. > > > > As a person who thinks a mix of > dangerous foods, vaccines, toxins and drugs cause this illness the > path to continue and increase the norm is stupid. > > > > We are faced with a complex situation > therefore. > > > > Dr Goldberg does share many ideas that > this group believes just as he disagrees with some. Just going back > to one reviewer who said that USA tends to accept drugs as safe (and > vaccines) and only much later finds out they are dangerous. Mercury > still is and was put in many vaccines and was given to younger and > younger age groups. Today this practice has stopped only in that > neurotoxic mercury is out or reduced but we still give vaccines to > groups when previously we said it was dangerous. > > > > What is happening, whether it causes > cot deaths, epilepsy, autism, cancer or whatever is an Alice in > Wonderland situation where dangerous practices are stopped with the > proviso they were not dangerous while continuing with practices KNOWN > to be harmful fifty years ago but today claimed to be safe. With > current rates of autism how can the medical profession claim ANY > expertise on health? > > > > It is not difficult to see why any > sensible person cannot come up with good ideas on autism and Dr > Goldberg has good ideas alongside some bad ones. > > > > I wouldn't write him off but would keep > his ideas in mind and use the good ones. > > > > Going back to your good experience I > have to say that the Cutler chelation and high vitamin A strategy > which obviously worked for your child needs to explained to those who > are unfamiliar like myself. > > > > Chelation is a practice used for lead > but denied by most mainstream doctors as not good for mercury. > > > > The one death is put forward as total > condemnation of the technique while forgetting how tens of millions > have suddenly died before six months or are resigned to a life with > brain disorders for life. Not a level headed view of the real world. > > > > The good news is that autism has moved > from incurable to a cure or recovery rate of between 10 and 20 per > cent meaning that some protocols are having benefits unheard of just > ten years ago. > > > > Dr Goldberg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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